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Ubuntu Linux 16.10 'Yakkety Yak' Beta 1 Now Available For Download (betanews.com) 92

Posted by BeauHD from the new-release dept.
An anonymous reader quotes a report from BetaNews: Today, the first beta of Ubuntu Linux 16.10 sees release. Once again, a silly animal name is assigned, this time being the letter "Y" for the horned mammal, "Yakkety Yak." This is also a play on the classic song "Yakety Yak" by The Coasters. Please be sure not to "talk back" while testing this beta operating system! "Pre-releases of the Yakkety Yak are not encouraged for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu flavor developers and those who want to help in testing, reporting and fixing bugs as we work towards getting this bos grunniens ready. Beta 1 includes a number of software updates that are ready for wider testing. These images are still under development, so you should expect some bugs," says Set Hallstrom, Ubuntu Studio project lead. He adds: "While these Beta 1 images have been tested and work, except as noted in the release notes, Ubuntu developers are continuing to improve the Yakkety Yak. In particular, once newer daily images are available, system installation bugs identified in the Beta 1 installer should be verified against the current daily image before being reported in Launchpad. Using an obsolete image to re-report bugs that have already been fixed wastes your time and the time of developers who are busy trying to make 16.10 the best Ubuntu release yet. Always ensure your system is up to date before reporting bugs." Here are the following download links: Lubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, Ubuntu Kylin, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Studio.
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Ubuntu Linux 16.10 'Yakkety Yak' Beta 1 Now Available For Download

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  • Don't Talk Back! (Score:5, Funny)

    by SeaFox ( 739806 ) on Friday August 26, 2016 @09:33PM (#52779019)

    Please be sure not to "talk back" while testing this beta operating system!

    I thought Canonical stopped listening to user feedback years ago anyway.

    • Re:Don't Talk Back! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by geek ( 5680 ) on Friday August 26, 2016 @10:16PM (#52779175)

      Please be sure not to "talk back" while testing this beta operating system!

      I thought Canonical stopped listening to user feedback years ago anyway.

      They listen, the problem is just that they think they know better. If they really knew better though there wouldn't be so many fucking "spins" on the default distro. You don't see that shit with any other distro, Fedora has one or two, Arch has a couple but I don't think that's apples to apples since Arch is just a base for others to build on.

      Pride and arrogance are killing Ubuntu. I have a lot of love for what Ubuntu stood for once upon a time. I just wish they would get back to that and start working with the community again.

      • Please be sure not to "talk back" while testing this beta operating system!

        I thought Canonical stopped listening to user feedback years ago anyway.

        They listen, the problem is just that they think they know better. ... I just wish they would get back to that and start working with the community again.

        Ya. Good thing that doesn't happen elsewhere... (cough) systemd (cough)

      • Unpopular opinion: I like Unity. have tried KDE3, Gnome2, Gnome3, XFCE, even FVWM and a couple of oddball window managers, and overall Unity is ok. Reasonably simple, stays out of the way. I think in the long run it's an improvement over the systems used by the "we've always done like that" crowd, and it has helped a lot bringing Linux on the desktop of the average user. I also like systemd.

      • If they really knew better though there wouldn't be so many fucking "spins" on the default distro.

        And this is one of Ubuntus greatest strengths. They've fully embraced the we'll do our thing and someone else can fork the features they don't like. The existence of a whole series of spins with a custom but completely finished experience for the user, based on the same core underlying and well funded system is far better than the "we'll create a distro and give everyone every option ever but never make it look like any kind of unified product because there's just too much there" approach.

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Fedora actually has more community spins than Ubuntu (12 for Fedora vs 8 for Ubuntu). Not that it's a necessarily a good or bad thing. There are lots of reasons to create a derivative, some good, some bad. Usually the more popular projects get forked/re-spun as people like it, but want to add something. That's why Debian is so common as a base distro while there are virtually no spins of Void.

    • Re:Don't Talk Back! (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Dutch Gun ( 899105 ) on Friday August 26, 2016 @10:50PM (#52779281)

      "Pre-releases of the Yakkety Yak are not encouraged for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu flavor developers and those who want to help in testing, reporting and fixing bugs as we work towards getting this bos grunniens ready. Beta 1 includes a number of software updates that are ready for wider testing. These images are still under development, so you should expect some bugs," says Set Hallstrom, Ubuntu Studio project lead. He adds: "While these Beta 1 images have been tested and work, except as noted in the release notes, Ubuntu developers are continuing to improve the Yakkety Yak. In particular, once newer daily images are available, system installation bugs identified in the Beta 1 installer should be verified against the current daily image before being reported in Launchpad. Using an obsolete image to re-report bugs that have already been fixed wastes your time and the time of developers who are busy trying to make 16.10 the best Ubuntu release yet. Always ensure your system is up to date before reporting bugs."

      So... there may be some bugs then? I was a little unclear on that point.

      Anyhow, it's great that the article talks about the silly name of the release, the song it's named after, and about how buggy it is, rather than talking about what sort of new features come with the latest and greatest bugs. I mean, no one gives a crap about boring things like that, right? Or did I miss a link somewhere?

    • Just installed 16.04 after a few years away from desktop linux .. Holy crap Unity is bad.. Not like only usability bad but broken. Coming out of sleep apps will be frozen, switching apps will often time maximize windows, running more than one screen will often, coming out of sleep, make the main display scroll with the extent of the secondary display (different wakeup times) and much more.. If ANYTHING should be bug free it should be the very foundation that other apps run it, the userinterface and its just

  • I miss the old days. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by itomato ( 91092 ) on Friday August 26, 2016 @09:36PM (#52779041)
    Why, oh why do you have to send clicks to that terrible site to make me wade through drivel about The Coasters to find out... well, basically nothing.
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Yakket... [ubuntu.com]

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by gilgongo ( 57446 )

      Yeach you'd think they'd take at last ONE fact about new functionality or features in the new release and talk about it. You'd have to try to make it less informative.

  • I like how upgrading from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 or 14.04 to 16.04 LTS breaks things because Ubuntu only tested the six month path. Forgetting directories, account name changes, etc.

    • Re:stability where? not for servers (Score:5, Informative)

      by somenickname ( 1270442 ) on Friday August 26, 2016 @10:34PM (#52779243)

      The funny thing is that the upgrade path was significantly broken by systemd. On a clean 16.04 machine, you can type "/etc/init.d/foo restart" and it works fine. It's just a wrapper to the correct systemd command. If, however, you upgraded your system from 12.04 to 1X.04, the upgrade process probably didn't correctly update the scripts in /etc/init.d. So, now you are stuck on a system that may or may not respond the same way that your new machines respond. Even though they are running the same damn operating system.

      Systemd... The gift that keeps on giving...

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by nnull ( 1148259 )
        I've done this update for a small little server, it seems to run ok. I've noticed some little oddities, but nothing so significant that it's stopping the server from running. Although, I am concerned of something breaking.

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Hey, I'm all for bashing systemd when that's warranted. But you can't hold systemd responsible if Ubuntu screwed up their own upgrade process.

      • It's just a wrapper to the correct systemd command.

        Are you saying that it's just a user error for not learning the correct commands for the correct software on the machine, or does "systemctl start foo" also not work?The latter is broken, the former is good. They should remove the compatibility layer altogether and if users demand a now non-standard way of doing something then let them link it in their own time, especially since there's a functional equivalent.

        Incidentally it wasn't systemd that broke this behaviour, but rather the fact that the sudden jump

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by c ( 8461 )

        All I needed to restore my system init behaviour to something useful on 16.04 was:

        apt-get install upstart-sysv

        I'll consider revisiting systemd at some point in the future if Ubuntu is willing to migrate my init configurations properly, and I'm assuming that this approach will become untenable as systemd's tendrils creep deeper into the system, but for now it gets me back to a seemingly functional system.

  • Mint ftw (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    The only good thing about Ubuntu is that it makes Mint with Cinnamon possible.

  • I still have an official Ubuntu install CD from when it meant anything to own it, before they turned to the dark side of the force, before they collected so much personal information, before they implemented the festering piece of crap known as Unity.

    Mint with Cinnamon is probably the arguably desktop Linux, currently.
    https://www.linuxmint.com/down... [linuxmint.com]

    • Re:Ubuntu Is Dying A Slow Death (Score:5, Insightful)

      by somenickname ( 1270442 ) on Friday August 26, 2016 @10:51PM (#52779287)

      I dunno if that's true these days. Unity definitely caters to a specific workflow but, that workflow is not new and has been around a lot longer than Unity or Ubuntu (It's actually reminiscent of NextStep). When Unity was first released, it was admittedly unusable garbage. These days it just has some minor quirks. There is also a Unity Tweak Tool that can help you fiddle with things until it feels more natural. It's not without faults, to be sure. But, it's gotten back to the point where I could recommend it to people. After many years of boycotting vanilla Ubuntu, I've switched back to it and have no complaints at all.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by nnull ( 1148259 )
        Or just run Kubuntu or Xubuntu, no Unity. Yes, it was an ugly mess when it was released, but I have to agree with you, it's not so bad anymore.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by jopsen ( 885607 )
        My problem with unity is the papercuts... Opening dash and sometimes I can't get a terminal by typing t + enter, other times it works... Small things like that.. Oh, and animations and stuff that flickers... Even with intel graphics and latest ubuntu it still felt sketchy and crash occasionally.

        Gnome shell isn't much better, but a little... as long as get nautilus as patch by ubuntu, can't live without decent type-ahead... I tried, and I'll never be able to move away...

      • Yeah, we've switched to 16.04/Unity at work - usable, stays out of the way.

        One of the few DE's that works well with multiple monitors - vertical launcher/task bars that lets you lock apps to the bar. Perfect for widescreen monitors, vertical realestate is valuable. Mate/LXDE/XFCE are all lacking there. KDE works well but ridiculously flacky eye candy.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by nnull ( 1148259 )
      I think Cinnamon is just going to replace KDE and Gnome overall on any system if they keep going the direction they're going.
  • Did they fix MAAS yet? Ubuntu MAAS has been broken since the attempted 2.0 release on 16.04. Still in RC. What the heck happened here?

  • Any clue what the naming convention will be after Zany Zebra?

  • I for one am rather happy with Ubuntu. Can't stand Unity of course, and KDE has never been my cup of tea (have given it a few tries, given up every time, it just didn't do what I wanted). I was really happy when we got Ubuntu Mate, that just does what I want, and gets out of the way.

    But with Ubuntu 16.10 I'm really looking forward to try Lubuntu again. The old LXDE is a bit too... lacking in small convenience features. I hope LXQt will improve on that (plus, I'm a Qt fan in general). If it's a let-down (bet

  • Take out the papers (Unity desktop) and the trash (systemd).

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