NetBSD 7.0.1 Released

New submitter fisted writes: The NetBSD Project is pleased to announce NetBSD 7.0.1, the first security/bugfix update of the NetBSD 7.0 release branch. It represents a selected subset of fixes deemed important for security or stability reasons... For more details, please see the release notes at netbsd.org/releases. Complete source and binaries for NetBSD are available for download at many sites around the world. A list of download sites providing FTP, AnonCVS, SUP, and other services may be found at netbsd.org/mirrors/ This release addresses three security advisories, and includes six more security fixes -- all courtesy of a non-profit organization with no commercial backing.

My review

[110010001000]

No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.

Re: Can anyone explain?

[Anonymous Coward]

If "no one" uses it, why do they keep releasing updates?

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[danbob999]

Linux is also better for cell phones, tablet, WiFi routers, super computers, embedded systems. There is not much left for BSD, it's mostly used as a toy.

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[TheRealMindChild]

Linux will run on your new toy. But they gave up on your old hardware.

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[fnj]

Linux is also better for cell phones, tablet, WiFi routers, super computers, embedded systems. There is not much left for BSD, it's mostly used as a toy.

Ignoramus' opinion is worth squat.

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[danbob999]

Linux is also better for cell phones, tablet, WiFi routers, super computers, embedded systems. There is not much left for BSD, it's mostly used as a toy.

Huh? Playstation 4, iPhone, iPad, MacOS X, Juniper Networks Junos OS, Netflix Open Connect, etc

Mac OS X / iOS has been forked from BSD long ago. Just because they are in use doesn't mean BSD is in use. Contributors (other than Apple of course) are not contributing to BSD so that Apple can sell more iPhones. They are doing it so that they can have a working Free/Net/*/BSD.

The real question is who is directly using BSD, and not a proprietary fork?

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[danbob999]

Oh I am sure they all use BSD. Still, that must not account for more than 1-2% of the server market.

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[Marlin Schwanke]

It looks like my FreeNAS box is running on top of FreeBSD. Does that not count?

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[Anonymous Coward]

Linux is better for specialist situations. Linux runs your toys and docker, but BSD runs your infrastructure. Comparing your half-ton 6 cylinder gas pick up to a one ton 8 cylinder diesel, and declaring the one-ton a winner because it's more popular. The biggest complaint I hear about Linux is it crumbles under-extreme load. Yes, there should have been more servers, but they just went BSD and found it may have been 10% slower, but it didn't keel over.

More and more research money is getting pushed into ope

Re: Can anyone explain?

[Traxton]

I would say at least FreeBSD is not a toy and is definitely in use. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... [wikipedia.org]

It might as well be for having the SJW's CoC.

[sethstorm]

However, NetBSD doesn't have the issue of being SJW-compliant. It concentrates on the project itself, not making tumblrinas happy.

Re: Can anyone explain?

[Anonymous Coward]

Sorry Linus. It's your OS that sucks.

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[Bing Tsher E]

Linux has better hardware support if you're talking about a Pee Cee and what odd peripherals you can buy at a department store to plug into it. Plus it's only a kernel.

NetBSD has far better hardware support, in that with each version release all the processor architectures it will run on is supported, with the whole kernel and base userland under that version tag. You can check the same source tree out of the repository and build it for every architecture. The whole system and a full base userland.

With L

Re:Can anyone explain?

[nawcom]

Can anyone explains why *BSD matters? It sucks. Nobody uses it. Linux is better for servers, has better hardware support, has more software, and is far better supported. Why would anyone care about any BSD system? It sure looks like *BSD is dead.

Here's a list of products that use FreeBSD or modified versions of FreeBSD:

• Adara Networks Software Defined Networking products
• AKIPS network monitoring system
• Apple Inc.'s OS X and iOS, the core of which (Darwin) is built on the XNU kernel (part Mach, part FreeBSD, part Apple-derived code). Much of the UNIX userland tools are mostly based on FreeBSD code.
• Blue Coat Systems network appliances
• Calexium MailFountain is based on FreeBSD 8.1
• Borderware appliances (firewall, VPN, Anti-SPAM, Web filter etc.) are based on a FreeBSD kernel
• Check Point IPSO security appliances
• Citrix Systems Netscaler application delivery software is based on FreeBSD
• Coyote Point GX-series web acceleration and load balancer appliances
• Dell Compellent enterprise storage systems (all 64-bit versions)
• Dell (was EqualLogic) iSCSI SAN arrays
• EfficientIP SOLIDserver DDI (DNS DHCP IPAM) appliances
• Halon SMTP server 3.4 is based on FreeBSD 10.2
• Hobnob WirelessWAN
• IronPort AsyncOS is based on a FreeBSD kernel
• Isilon Systems' OneFS, the operating system used on Isilon IQ-series clustered storage systems
• Juniper Networks Junos
• Junos prior to 5.0 was based on FreeBSD 2.2.6
• Junos between 5.0 and 7.2 (inclusive) is based on FreeBSD 4.2
• Junos 7.3 and higher is based on FreeBSD 4.10
• Junos 8.5 is based on FreeBSD 6.1
• Junos 10.0 is based on FreeBSD 7
• Junos 15.1 is based on FreeBSD 10
• KACE Networks's KBOX 1000 & 2000 Series Appliances and the Virtual KBOX Appliance
• LineRate Proxy appliances
• nCircle's IP360 security products use FreeBSD 6.x
• McAfee SecurOS, used in e.g. Firewall Enterprise (aka Sidewinder)
• NetApp filers based on Data ONTAP
• Netasq intrusion prevention appliances
• Netflix Open Connect appliances
• COMP VPN gateways, some of them certified by the Internal Security Agency for processing classified data
• Panasas parallel network storage systems
• Panasonic uses FreeBSD in their Viera TV receivers
• Sandvine's network policy control products
• Silicon Graphics International uses FreeBSD in their ArcFiniti
• Sony Computer Entertainment's PlayStation 3, consumer gaming consoles.
• Sophos Email Appliance
• Spectra Logic nTier Verde backup appliances
• Statseeker, Network Monitoring Software
• St. Bernard Software iPrism web filter appliance
• Symmetricom Timing Solutions
• The Weather Channel's IntelliStar local forecast computer
• Whatsapp
• Wheel Systems FUDO and Lynx

Here's why Netflix uses FreeBSD:

FreeBSD was selected for its balance of stability and features, a strong development community and staff expertise. All code improvements, feature additions, and bug fixes are contributed directly back to the open source community via the FreeBSD committers on our team. We also strive to stay at the front of the FreeBSD development process, allowing us to have a tight feedback loop with other community and partner developers. The result has been a positive open source ecosystem that lowers our development costs and multiplies the effectiveness of our efforts.

Regardless of the FreeBSD is dead meme, it's very much actively used and companies that use it contribute to its code. NetBSD, however, is a completely different thing altogether when it comes to people using it.

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[nawcom]

Looks like wikipedia hasn't updated the list, but just like the PS3, the Sony PS4 is still running a modified version of FreeBSD 9 called Orbis OS.

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[Eunuchswear]

Blue Coat Systems network appliances

Happy about boasting about that? [slashdot.org]

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[Eunuchswear]

But when the toolmaker (or his fanboi) boasts about who's using his tools then who's the arsehole?

Re:Can anyone explain?

[lokedhs]

I'll give you one reason why I finally moved to FreeBSD for my servers: it does not use systemd.

It might sound like a trollish thing to say, but it's true. It's not the only reason of course. FreeBSD really is much nicer on the server. It's much more predicable and easier to analyse problems. The lack of systemd is just one factor that contributes to this.

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[ruir]

I am toying around the idea of moving to FreeBSD over the fascist decision of ramming systemd down our throats. However I might add that I am using Jessie without it. However, what is holding me back is the devops developments, Ansible and docker. What is your take on that?

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[lokedhs]

Both Ansible [ansible.com] and Docker [freebsd.org] work and are supported on FreeBSD, but I can't tell you if there are any specific issues to consider since I don't actually use them myself.

I still run Linux on my workstations because it's easier to get all the workstation/laptop things working there. However, I'll give FreeBSD a try on the desktop as well next time I reinstall.

On the server, there are really no benefits to Linux currently.

congratulations NetBSD

[jmccue]

I am glad NetBSD is still around. Between the complaints of this and that UN*X type systems no longer a UN*X, NetBSD is one system that you never hear that complaint. It is a small and very nice UN*X system with some interesting features. I even mounted a very broken file system using rump to pull some files from it that were created after my last backup. Nevermind 7+ supports in kernal lua, which seems intriguing to me.

Obligatory

[Hognoxious]

Does it use systemd?

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