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Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Final Beta Released 69

prisoninmate writes: Canonical pushed the first-ever public Beta ISO images of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus), which the company calls "Final Beta" builds, and it looks like they ship with Linux kernel 4.4.6 LTS, the ability to move the Unity Launcher to the bottom of the screen, though, the option remains hidden, for now, the LibreOffice 5.1.1 office suite, GNOME Software as the default package manager, and GNOME Calendar as default calendar app, which supports Google Calendars as well. Official flavors like Ubuntu Studio, Kubuntu, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu GNOME, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, and Unbuntu Kylin had also participate in the Beta 2 release. Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and its official flavors are currently scheduled for release on April 21, 2016. (Xenial is kind of a cool word, too.)
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Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Final Beta Released

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  • Windows 10 killer (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25, 2016 @10:46AM (#51775891)
    I think this one may finally be the Windows 10 killer. With all the Office functionality, modern web browsers, professional programming tools combined with ease of use and great hardware compatibility there's really no reason not to make the jump. There's probably some concern in Redmond this morning.
    • by Junta ( 36770 )

      Though I'm on board with the sentiment, the truth is that vision has been the case for the last four to six years. Nothing about this release particularly changes the equation. One exception being office functionality, MS Office churns and there's many subtle incompatibilities to contend with.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Sorry, no. The office functionality is still nowhere near office. I have been waiting and waiting and waiting and that is the one thing that is holding me back. I opened a word document with LibreOffice recently, saved it, and now it is corrupt to everything but LibreOffice. The Word document had some additional bells and whistles (referencing and formatting for APA 6 standards) so maybe that was what it was due to. And before you say that I should just keep it in ODF - businesses and schools just simp

      • You'll be waiting a long time then. There was a push a few years ago for a "standard office document format". Libre/Open Office pushed the open document format (their default these days), while MS tried to push an MS XML format. The end result of all the conflict seems to be we have an Open office format, and MS did their little pity party with minimal support for ODF, and still pushing their proprietary format.

        With Office on Android, there may be slightly less of a wait... but I doubt we will ever see a
      • Office 365 Online works fine under GNU/Linux in Firefox FWIW. Though personally I don't find it good enough, it does strange things with tables for example (which render perfectly fine in preview mode but not when editing the document... and this is true regardless of browser/platform, I saw the same behavior in Edge)

        Office seem to be taking the dumb-it-down approach these days, while LibreOffice seems to be focusing on usability without losing core functionality. I'm not actually opposed to what Office

        • Online is not an ideal or feature complete way to do office full time. It is a great tool to view and do a few edits on another pc but that is about it. Now if Office 2016 supports Windows 10 better then maybe Redmond can be a great killer.

          • Online is not an ideal or feature complete

            Define feature complete. Quite frankly when I look at the move by private people, businesses, schools and government institutions to Office365 I pretty much consider it "good enough" for most applications.

            The GGP mentioned referencing as a feature that broke it. To be perfectly honest I thought common practice that when you're writing a document complicated enough to need that kind of feature set defaulted to LaTeX. I was mocked for writing my thesis in Word and the referencing features were the single bigg

      • that has held you back? i've been using ms office without a single problem on gnu/linux for the last 10 years (occasionally needed at work).

        step 1) apt install playonlinux
        step 2) start playonlinux and click the big INSTALL button
        step 3) select Microsoft Office and follow prompts

        this process has been that easy for at least 10 years. first, i used plain wine, then i paid for crossover, now i use playonlinux which is free.

    • by Pablo Valentini ( 4514615 ) on Friday March 25, 2016 @11:03AM (#51776013)
      That is overoptimistic. This release is not that different from the last one besides the LTS. It was not a Windows 10 killer back then and it is not going to be now.
      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        If anything is a Windows 10 killer, it's Windows 10 itself.

    • by imbusy ( 1002705 )
      I actually wanted to switch to Ubuntu instead of upgrading to Windows 10, but I also use a headless desktop and a laptop as a thin client. Windows 10 simply has much better support for remote desktop. I wrote down my experiences here: []
    • I think this one may finally be the Windows 10 killer. With all the Office functionality, modern web browsers, professional programming tools combined with ease of use and great hardware compatibility there's really no reason not to make the jump. There's probably some concern in Redmond this morning.

      And probably twice as stable too :-)

      Oddly I tried WIndows 10 for the last time earlier this week. VIsual Studio couldn't install any phone or Android SDKs in hyper-v and the icons are not even in the taskbar. Windows 8.1 with a start menu program it is unfortunately. Sigh ... there is no way it will be ready this Summer when the free cutoff is.

      But in a more serious note

      Serious linux fans but NO.

      We had 15 years. No apps, with the exception of 10 it just works and continues to work, comes with pc, our jobs re

    • Yeah, if you could actually buy PCs with it.

      Although if you look really hard, you can get a Dell XPS 13 with Ubuntu for $101 less than with Windows. A real win-win-win (the third win being not paying money to Microsoft to help advertise Windows).

    • I’m afraid it’s a wishful thinking and nothing more. It will be an ‘OS for not-almost-geeks’, maybe for those who interested, but definitely not for everyone. If you’re using Office, and have attracted to Word/Excel/Outlook, you can’t just start using LibreOffice without much pain, if you’re usual user. You’ll just look for that, try something, probably face a problem you didn’t know how to deal with, and return back. And of course, casual users just did
  • What is the baseline gcc for this?
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Man, I look at screenshots from Ubuntu 6 to 9, and it was so pretty and functional. From 10 onwards things seemed to start to go down the drain, and now the thing looks so damn ugly and, even on fast computers, it feels slow (even when it isn't really slow).

    And I know people joke about the default desktop background looking like vomit, but it really does look unpleasant, and the desktop looks constricted and claustrophobic even on big screens, in a way that Gnome 2 never did.

    I never really liked Ubuntu, I w

    • Re: ugly duck (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Kubuntu. All the package mgmt and interoperability of Ubuntu with an awesomely usable and customizable KDE desktop.

    • For you there is Ubuntu MATE []. I consider it the first choice for others to try linux first.

      Gnome2 was abandoned by the gnome devs, but others took the code, fixed bugs and kept developing on. That is what the MATE Desktop Environment [] is. Anytime you miss Gnome2, think of MATE.

      Plus Ubuntu MATE happens to have some of the MATE developers directly involved, they have a goal of friendly and familiar first, just like Ubuntu used to.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Still comes with an Amazon icon installed... Ubuntu is still not "free"

  • Consistency (Score:3, Interesting)

    by danielcolchete ( 1088383 ) on Friday March 25, 2016 @12:47PM (#51776755)

    I really like how consistent Ubuntu is, how they always deliver on their promises. In exactly two years we will be posting about 18.04, witch is very similar to 17.10. It's really something you can rely on, you always know what you are getting.

    It's super how they do it with all the new versions of everything! I'm moving from Debian to Ubuntu on my data centers (3) this year, probably will go with 14.04 at first, but should follow soon with 16.04. Kernel 4.4 brings a lot more performance for people with 10K+ TCP connections in a server and 14.04 already have that! With Debian/Centos/RedHat we would have to wait a few years as they don't support those things officially.

    I really like how you can trust Ubuntu on their support.

  • Will my laptop support hibernate/resume as Windows 98 did?

  • The launcher positioning on the bottom is great but unless they changed something, autohide is broken. You can set it to autohide but the hot corners are still for the left side option only.
  • This gonna be a rather big issue. Netbooks are the cheapest laptops around again, this time they are ultra-flat. They feature tablet-like hardware (2GB RAM soldered to the motherboard, eMMC) and come with Windows 10 32bit.
    An example is Asus with Atom Z3735F

    Want a Windows 10 killer? The 32bit bootloader support ought to be there for final or even beta.

  • The New York Times published its first-ever public 2016-03-25 newspaper today. Hey, this "first-ever" adjective is fun!

  • what about Ubuntu/BSD?
  • Such a long discussion, seems like you people have been waiting for it for ages))) To upgrade to Ubuntu 16.04 Final Beta from Ubuntu 15.10 go []. Read how to operate through GUI : []

A committee takes root and grows, it flowers, wilts and dies, scattering the seed from which other committees will bloom. -- Parkinson