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OwnCloud Server 9.0 Officially Released (softpedia.com) 82

prisoninmate writes: OwnCloud Server 9.0 is without any doubt the biggest release of the world's leading file sharing and sync solution, which is used by over 8 million users around the globe. It promises to bring the collaboration and federation features to new levels thanks to the addition of new, innovative tools, as well as to improve the software's scalability. One of ownCloud 9.0's new features is code signing, which promises to offer users with a safer home for all their data by verifying the integrity of their ownCloud installations during upgrades or when installing apps, which also need to follow the new code signing specifications. The community edition of ownCloud Server 9.0 is available for download right now via Softpedia as a source package that you can deploy on your Linux kernal-based server, or straight from the project's website as binary packages for various GNU/Linux operating systems. OwnCloud Server 9.0 Enterprise Edition will be released in April 2016.
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OwnCloud Server 9.0 Officially Released

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  • by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Tuesday March 08, 2016 @06:20PM (#51662077) Homepage Journal
    Nice! I know this: it is a Linux kernal system!
  • by Anonymous Coward

    One of Owncloud's key failings in the past is that it has a horrible time dealing with a share that has tens of thousands of files in it. (Seafile, OTOH, deals with that easily.)

    Has its sync improved in the last few years, or is it still limited to less then a few thousand files per share?

    • by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Tuesday March 08, 2016 @06:30PM (#51662137) Homepage Journal
      Did you not read the summary? It is world leading. Without any doubt.
    • No, performance still sucks because the designers still have absolutely no idea how to design a network filesystem. If they bothered to read the AFS papers then they'd know that all of the 'hard' problems that they're struggling with were solved decades ago (and have open source implementations). Like so many other related projects, they're far too concerned about building a platform without thinking about the underlying protocols. If I had to pick one out of open source or open protocols, I'd pick open
    • We're working with CERN, AARNet and others to bring ownCloud to a higher level of scalability. right now, petabyte level filesystems are no problem but going beyond that is hard. ownCloud 9.0 introduces changes to break through that barrier. See https://opensource.com/busines... [opensource.com] for more info. Of course, if you're merely talking about a few hundred terrabyte of data, ownCloud won't have any issues with it if it's set up properly. I suggest you check out the deployment recommendations: https://doc.owncloud. [owncloud.org]
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 08, 2016 @06:24PM (#51662095)

    Ironic, since the news mentions code signings and you're pointing us to Softpedia.

    News: https://owncloud.org/nine/
    Download: https://owncloud.org/install

  • Is this an ad? (Score:5, Informative)

    by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ) on Tuesday March 08, 2016 @06:27PM (#51662119)

    Is this an ad? Because it sure reads like an ad.

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Potor ( 658520 )
      This is an ad.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      It is probably a malware laden download from Softpedia. Otherwise they would just link to the direct download from owncloud.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      If you follow the story link, it has a brown bar.

      This "prisoninmate" seems to have a 100% submission history.

      Guess it's an in-house (maybe "outhouse"?) spam submitter account.

      Captcha: "disobey" OK, will do...

    • I mean an ad for an open source project on /. wouldn't be too offensive, which is what is is.
      • by Tailhook ( 98486 )

        The softpedia link puts some stink on the story. Otherwise, yes, this appears to be a fairly inoffensive story about an open source alternative to Dropbox et al. It's gotten to the point where being mentioned on Slashdot is bad thing; it's assumed to be a slashvertishment for some commercial unicorn wannabe.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    She uses owncloud for all her to secret documents. Because ya know...when you need to share 'em.

  • by dbc ( 135354 ) on Tuesday March 08, 2016 @06:32PM (#51662161)

    Why do all the link point to the scumbags at softpedia, instead of to owncloud.org?

  • by Hadlock ( 143607 ) on Tuesday March 08, 2016 @06:35PM (#51662175) Homepage Journal

    SeaFile is OwnCloud (which are both basically DropBox), except, Sea is a play-on for C programming language (and some Python). So it's way fast. OwnCloud is written in PHP and you get what you pay for in performance as a result.
     
     

    1. https://www.seafile.com/en/home/ [seafile.com]
    2. https://github.com/haiwen/seafile [github.com]
    3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seafile [wikipedia.org]
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Although I agree with you, Owncloud is a much more feature rich system than Seafile. Owncloud can be your caldav server for synchronizing calendar clients (e.g. thunderbird or solcalendar on android). Owncloud can be your OPDS server for accessing all of your ebooks remotely using any OPDS compatible ebook reader.

      However, I have personally abandoned Owncloud. It is way too much of a pain to upgrade (running it on a Freenas system). The built in automatic updater never works. Manual updates are fraugh

      • by Hadlock ( 143607 )

        SeaFile is about 8x faster than OwnCloud when running on something like a Raspberry Pi. Using a Pi as a file server is an awful idea due to a number of issues with bus sharing but it's a fantastic example to show how much of a cow OwnCloud is from a performance standpoint.

        • by dbIII ( 701233 )
          I'm planning to do a quick and nasty sync thing to android devices from an orange pi so thanks for pointing out an alternative.
        • Owncloud has more features

          Seafile is faster

          Of course it is faster, it can't do half the shit Owncloud can. SeaFile is also damn expensive, 44 euro per user per year for file sharing software; Dropbox costs less than that for the pro version.

          • Well, in all fairness, there's a open source version, though it is rather limited, and the project itself seems to slowly wither away.

      • by jabuzz ( 182671 ) on Tuesday March 08, 2016 @08:28PM (#51662817) Homepage

        I abandoned Owncloud shortly after installing when I discovered like all free software of this type I have evaluated it had no fucking idea about operating on your normal home directory without purchasing the "enterprise" version and then some horrible kludges.

        The whole think is clearly written by a bunch of web jocks who have no fucking idea about Unix development and want to reinvent the bloody wheel.

        I have a user model and file system that I trust to get the permissions things right. I don't trust some crappy PHP code to do it correctly, and I don't fucking want to have all my files in Owncloud separate from my normal home directory because what's the fucking point in that and then stored under the Apache user in /var. It's a total fucking joke.

    • I have tried both. I find Seafile far superior to Owncloud, in terms of features, and speed.

      But, Ownclowd runs on a standard $10 a year webhost. Whereas, Seafile requires python, and deep access to the webserver.

      Practically none of the plugins for Ownclowd work correctly. Also, Ownclowd does not have markdown, whereas as Seafile has an excellent markdown implementation.

      • by kwalker ( 1383 )

        Speed sure, but features?

        I looked at SeaFile's website but their feature set seems to be entirely about file sync. That's all well and good, but my crew primarily uses ownCloud to do contact, task, and calendar sharing, doc editing (sometimes), and gallery/picture sharing. All plugins. It is kinda a shame about the markdown support not working in Notes though.

        And it's pretty fast if you've tuned the webserver properly.

    • Does Owncloud handle symlinks? Seafile can't seem to understand we need files, directories , and links. All modern filesystems work this way.

      • by kwalker ( 1383 )

        The ownCloud (Linux) client does not support symlinks. I wish it did, believe me. There's not even an option, and it doesn't treat them like normal files. But as it is, I just have to reverse-symlink (file lives in ownCloud, symlink lives elsewhere and points back to it).

        • The reason we don't support it is because it woudn't work on all platforms. Seriously, yes. If you know of a decent solution - let us know.

          • by kwalker ( 1383 )

            All modern filesystems (Even NTFS) handles symlinks. If mobile is the issue, then treat links like their target type (file or directory), like everyone else has since the inception of links.

            At least give us (users) the option to ignore links or treat them like normal (maybe with a warning about it not working on mobile or whatever platform is giving you heartburn).

  • Remember, hey it was just last month, how Slashdot's new owner said they'd listen to us, and get rid of the problems that had cropped up with Dice, etc.?

    Well, listen guys. This doesn't have a red bar or any indication that it's paid, but it's obviously a press release, it points to people we don't trust for file downloads rather than the people who make the software that is being discussed, and it contains obvious falsehoods (like OwnCloud's acceptance next to things like DropBox).

    So, this is just an isolated problem that slipped through the cracks, right?

    • by dbIII ( 701233 )

      but it's obviously a press release

      True but it's an announcement of a new release of software that people on this site are interested in and so it would have fit in on Slashdot at any time since this site started. The rest can be put down to nothing more malicious than poor editing and may even end up being fixed.

    • Maybe its been edited since you read it but the summary contains links to the developer as well now. It even points out that the binaries have been compiled by softpedia.

      Personally I don't have a problem with this article. It is about a great piece of software that lots of us have a use for. Ideally it wouldn't have come via softpedia but that doesn't make the news not worthy.

      • "It even points out that the binaries have been compiled by softpedia."

        Binaries!? AFAIK OwnCloud is 100% PHP code.

    • but it's obviously a press release

      90% of news IS a press release. If you judge by that metric you may as well shut down slashdot.

      • 90% of news IS a press release. If you judge by that metric you may as well shut down slashdot.

        No, you'd shut down PR Newswire [prnewswire.com]. Editors and reporters may be incited to cover a story by PR people, but they are supposed to report the story rather than simply repeat the propaganda.

        • Slashdot is a news aggregator, not investigative journalism. The purpose of this site is and always has been repeat propaganda be it from corporations or someone else with an agenda. The exception is Ask Slashdot columns.

          • Read what you wrote. Slashdot is a news aggregator. News is different from press releases. News is carried by news sites. Press releases are carried by a corporation's own web site and by venues like PR newswire.

            Slashdot editors have mostly been smart enough to be able to tell one from the other, up until now. If they aren't able to do that, they aren't going to hold the audience either.

            • News is different from press releases. News is carried by news sites. Press releases are carried by a corporation's own web site and by venues like PR newswire.

              Errr not even close. Do you even understand what the "press" part of "press release" means?

              • Yes. I have a professional PR person who does my press placements and am married to another, and discuss their work quite a lot. Press releases are meant to incite a news venue to create a story. Corporations also make announcements on their web sites. But everyone should know that these things are in general hyperbolic if they don't just plain lie. So, in general any self-respecting person of normal competence working in a press venue will not copy these things, but will write their own story.

                Slashdot has

  • One killer feature that was not completely done previously was ODF collaborative editing. How far did it go now?
    • It's been improved but the company and community behind it are nearly dead (it wasn't primarily developed by ownCloud). So things were quiet until - Liberoffice Online came along and now Collabora is working on integrating that in ownCloud ;-)

  • I'm getting like plenty of other users (as reported on github) TableExistsException when doing what is really a vanilla upgrade for a minimal system with one user... So I'm stuck; other than that there are tons of other 9.0 bugs reported...

    Feature-wise it was really underwhelming, I've been expecting quite a few more things from it, especially that it has been for years mentioned on slashdot. Online editing exists only for plain texts, even previews on documents are really hard to get. Thumbnails on pdf's (

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