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Mandriva Businesses The Almighty Buck Linux

Mandriva Goes Out of Business 167

An anonymous reader writes: After struggling for the past several years, Mandriva has finally gone out of business, and is in the process of being liquidated. The company was responsible for Mandriva Linux, itself a combination of Mandrake Linux and Conectiva Linux. When Mandriva fell upon hard times, many of the distro's developers migrated to Mageia Linux, which is still going strong and just putting the final touches on its next major version (5).
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Mandriva Goes Out of Business

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  • by AuMatar ( 183847 ) on Tuesday May 26, 2015 @05:36PM (#49778219)

    Mandriva still sounds like a gay porno.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26, 2015 @06:11PM (#49778397)

      They changed the name because of the threat of litigation, and they couldn't afford the proper set of lawyers to tell the plaintiff to f*** off, but they should've changed their name to something that ended in "drake", e.g. "Sandrake." They did have an opportunity when Red Hat abandoned their consumer distro and their shrink wrap product (the two were actually the same) - Mandrake should've stepped in and taken charge. This is when you need a guy who has some marketing savvy (not talking about a business school guy, but someone who knows how to grab press like Michael Robertson for example). They should've said "we have a solution to the problem with non-free drivers" or something like that, even if it turned out to be a hack.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by KGIII ( 973947 )

        Since the early day of Mandrake I have had Mandrake/Mandriva as my favorite distro. It is sad to see it go but this is not surprising. One thing I noticed was that their site had been very difficult to navigate in the last few years and their attempts to monetize was crude, at best. These two things are not the reason they went out of business but I do not think they helped in any way. They were my favorite. I am hoping someone forks and continues the project.

        • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

          by Anonymous Coward

          I'll attest to the fact that they fixed many bugs in the redhat installer and other components.

          It was a better RedHat in many respects.

          • I tried it once in the 90s, when it was Mandrake. It looked beautiful. Only problem I had - like most other Linux distros of the time, it just refused to recognize my network card. So I could use it, if I could live w/o any internet.
            • In the 90s, practically every OS had these issues with NICs that weren't Intel 82559 or 3C509 based.

              The world is much more networked now, and thus has far better support for networking.

        • I used Mandrake/Mandriva from 2000 to around 2013. As far as I know, there are at least three "forks":

          Mageia (which I use now: I personally think it's great, and a big improvement on Mandriva): http://www.mageia.org/en/ [mageia.org]

          PCLinuxOS: never used it, so can't comment on what it's like: don't know if this is classed as a true "fork": http://www.pclinuxos.com/ [pclinuxos.com]

          OpenMandriva: again, never used it, so can't comment, and again, not sure if this is a "fork" as such: https://www.openmandriva.org/e... [openmandriva.org]

          Try Mageia: you may we

          • by KGIII ( 973947 )

            I already downloaded and burned Mageia. :D I will install it tomorrow as it is late.

          • When Mageia started, I tried it. But I eventually ended up in OpenSUSE. Yeah, I sold out... Never could stomach Ubuntu and it's children.

        • My first linux box was Mandrake. A bit of a shame that they are now titsup.

          That being said, everything I do is Debian-based now.

    • by Anonymous Coward
      ManDriva - with GIMP!!!
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by rudy_wayne ( 414635 )

      Mandriva still sounds like a gay porno.

      You're thinking of Mangina.

    • by Misagon ( 1135 )

      Mandrake was the only distro that I bought [i]boxed[/i].. but I never used it enough to remember what was so special about it. One thing stands out in my memory though: a post in the Slashdot comments to the name change from Mandrake to Mandriva.

      Mandriva - Womenshouta!

    • Like the new name - "Moregayer" - is any better in that respect.

  • by dewright_ca ( 89241 ) on Tuesday May 26, 2015 @05:37PM (#49778235) Homepage

    Back in 2002-2004 they were a great distribution; based on Red Hat, but using the optimizations for the 586/686 chipsets they made for a solid platform for LAMP powered systems running on last generation hardware. The support was top-notch for subscribers and when I started pushing out BEOWULF type systems for our computational systems they were right there making it flow.

    Farewell Mandrake/Mandriva...

    • Yes, for early 2000 Mandrake (i never followed the later Mandriva route) it was a great distribution - the funny (or sad?!) thing is that i still have a cd with the distro from that time THAT I STILL USE!!! Seriously, is THE cd i use first when i sometimes try to bring back from the dead various ooold machines...
    • by N7DR ( 536428 )

      Yes; as you say, in the 2002--2004 timeframe they were great. My experience was that it all started to fall apart when 64-bit machines came along. For a year or more Mandrake's 64-bit repositories were full of broken packages that simply would not install. I kept with them as long as I could, through the change to Mandriva, but nothing seemed to improve very much so I eventually switched the up-and-coming shininess that was *buntu. Which was great for a few years, before their quality control went the same

    • by jbolden ( 176878 )

      I liked them late 1990s (Mandrake) they were my favorite distribution because so many things "just worked" and their configurations were often more sensible. You started off far closer to a working system.

      Didn't try the server product much though did use it once for a RAID product and it did a great job on defaulting the RAID.

    • by mcrbids ( 148650 )

      Having never left the RedHat fold, (I'm typing this on a Fedora 21 Laptop) I can't say with any honesty that I've missed them. At all.

      Red Hat has been very, very good to me! My business is based on RHEL/CentOS and since Red Hat is quite profitable, I have a simple, economic assurance that my technology base won't disappear.

      Feel free to use Ubuntu/Mint/Whatever as your hip distro; but Red Hat has carried a solid, economically potent and robust distro for decades.

    • Mandrake 8.0 was my first distro. It was a good beginner's experience for new Linux users at the time. It's too bad they never really got into enterprise.
  • My first experience with Linux was Mandrake back in 2003, when I was 16. I had to ask a mate to download the CD images for me because his street had ADSL and I was still on dial-up lol. Fun summer :)
    • Also my first experience of Frozen Bubble. Isn't Frozen Bubble awesome?
      • Frozen Bubble is very awesome. So was Mandrake. I used it for a while in the early 2000's as it was the only distro that worked out of the box with some cheap modem I had. The problem was the other distro's caught up with, and went past Mandrake.
        • by KGIII ( 973947 )

          Dumb question time...

          Does anyone recall the distro that had a game you could play during installation of the OS? You were a penguin who slid on their belly down through the snow and had to avoid objects and go through the gates like a slalom skier... My brain has seemingly fried that synapses. I can not recall which distro it was... It was not Mandrake which would have been the name at the time as this predates the Mandriva renaming/rebranding.

          Opera spell-check wanted to change Mandriva to Mandrake. I am am

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I didn't even realize they were still around.

  • In 1999, Mandrake was the first distro I ever got installed and running 100%. I've long since abandoned it, but it's a happy memory.

    • In 1999, Mandrake was the first distro I ever got installed and running 100%. I've long since abandoned it, but it's a happy memory.

      Same here. (Well, x86 linux because I had MkLinux running on a Mac, but that was almost idiot proof.) Getting the sound card going was quite a bitch, iirc. Not quite the "having to fiddle with interrupts and memory ranges" days, but it was close.

      • I ended up pulling my SB Pro out to read the jumpers so I could run the config tool properly. The 33.6k modem was the real challenge. And that was after I upgraded from my US Robotics WinModem.

        It's amazing how easy we have it these days.

    • Absolutely the same situation. I still had dial up and bought a boxed version at Staples. 1999-2000. Set it up on a Pentium II system alongside Windows 98.
  • Mageia (Score:5, Informative)

    by markdavis ( 642305 ) on Tuesday May 26, 2015 @06:08PM (#49778373)

    I made the move to Mageia years ago and never looked back. Still happy. Since it is not a business, it should theoretically not go under. Retains all the spirit and functionality of Mandrake/Mandriva but is completely community driven. It is a great desktop distro.

    • I also have had an extremely positive experience with Mageia. It's a stable, very finished distro. Been using it for 4 years and no complaints.

      • Yep, I still use it. I tried openSUSE over the weekend, and gave up. The package management wasn't as easy (I like the meta packages Mageia has like "task-printing" that just installs everything I need; openSUSE didn't seem to have those). The configuration tools have been biggest reason why I've stuck with Madrake/Mandriva/Mageia since about the summer of 2001. I've tried other distros, but I keep coming back.
  • Back around 2000 or so, Mandrake was THE distro for newbies. It was a straighforward simple install, and it Just Worked(tm). My first distro that I was able to really get working was Mandrake 8.1

    The funny thing about Mandrake distributions was they had their own "only use version 3 of MS whatever" rule. Basically, it was "Use the x.1 version. x.0 and x.2 suck."

    They started going downhill with the Mandriva name, and when they ran into financial trouble, I - like many others - switched to Mageia.

    Still a d

    • by jbolden ( 176878 )

      They ran into financial trouble as Mandrake. The distribution was moderately profitable but they lost their shirt on an educational software venture that failed.

    • by KGIII ( 973947 )

      At risk of being pedantic, I believe it was Mandrake in 2000 or so. I think 8.1 was still Mandrake at least, but my memory could be fuzzy so I won't bet on it nor state it authoritatively. I am also too damned lazy to look it up. Google is so far away...

      • by sconeu ( 64226 )

        They became Mandriva somewhere after the Mandrake 10.2 release. I think it was around 2005 or so. They started naming the releases by year around that point.

        And yes, in 2001 it was Mandrake 8.1.

  • It's not over. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26, 2015 @08:16PM (#49779175)

    Nothing is over.

    The distro is the same, present in the daughters OpenMandriva, in Mageia and in ROSA/POCA. The distro is not over, though the forks are just starting to diverge.

    The developers are still there, the users are still there -- and above all, Linux is still there. It's not even like when XP reached its EOL. One just has to pick a distro and go on.

    The developers are great people. If you try so hard to make it happen, that can only mean you have a strong heart and courage to face the odds. What they lack was Marketing skills. Other Linux distros, if they're smart, are probably contacting these guys because Mandriva had an excellence which I witnessed several times these last years. Or hardware makers, if they need e.g. embedded Linux for, say, a phone... *wink*.

    Because the Mandriva guys were thoughtful, the user community has already another place to go, OpenMandriva. BTW, thank you, fellas, you did think about us even in your darkest hour. Not so many are that nice in this world we live now. More than once you saved me. Thanks for being awesome!

    Some even opted for Mageia long ago (like me). And ROSA looks another good option. For those who want traditional desktops, there's also other similar distributions, though for hardware support and configuration probably just a few can rival Mandriva.

    Actually, there was some wise juggling behind the stages and we now face the demise of just the part of the company which was supposed to offer enterprise services and products. With players like Red Hat, SuSE and Oracle, I think this is a somewhat hard to enter fight. Any other competitor would face difficult odds in that arena.

    It's not the end, too, because I bet these people will still offer professional services, either personally or they might join others coming from Mandriva, or from one of the daughters, or still being hired but already existing service providers.

    I was much more worried the first time they sank :-) I hope they get reunited in the future, after they perfect their ninja skills to fight again and I hope next time they pay more attention to Marketing -- if nothing more to devise a minimally acceptable name -- even Mageia and OpenMandriva names suck majorly and ROSA, well, ROSA is OK but the logo is blue when it should be rosy! Ever imagined Red Hat's logo in green?

    At last, it's not the end, because... it ain't over till the fat lady sings! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_ain%27t_over_till_the_fat_lady_sings

  • I used various versions of Mandrake up through 10.x or so. It was rock solid and a great workhorse. Fond memories.
  • I remember popping the disk out to make sure I didn't put a Redhat disk in by mistake when I saw "REDHAT LINUX" across the top of the installer. No, it really was the Mandrake disk.

  • It was a sinking ship before I ever started using Linux -- Mandriva 2009 was my first ever distro, and it made me fall in love with Linux. But the writing was on the wall for that company, well documented in the forums I used to frequent back in the day. These days (and since roughly 2010) I'm an Arch Linux user, so I never got on the wagon to Mageia, but back then I so desperately was ready to take on a huge role with the community-based distro that we always talked about.

  • Once upon a time, it was possible to install Corel Photopaint on Mandrake 9.x and it was fantastic.
    Only Apple Macs ruled the designer world roost and this was a rebellion in its on right.

  • Shame really. I picked up a copy of Mandrake 7.0 in July of 2000 at the local Staples (office superstore chain), at the time their version numbers were 1 higher than Redhat. They created a host of software tools (all with "drake" in the name), at the time hardrake was the best Linux hardware detection library and was used by several other distros.

    A couple of years after that I reported a bug with the installer of the then-new version (8.0). When they wrote me back they asked if I needed help with the bug, I
  • How sad. Mandrake was the first Linux distro I tried, years ago.
  • Wait, I thought that any time now we'd have the "Year of the Linux Desktop!" It has only been promised to us for 20 years now.

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/2... [zdnet.com]

    That was from 2004.

    http://tech.slashdot.org/story... [slashdot.org]

    That is from 2005, but has some interesting observations from years past

    http://linux.slashdot.org/stor... [slashdot.org]

    That one is from 2007, it asks "Is 2008 the Year of the Linux Desktop?"

    ---

    NO IT IS NOT AND IT NEVER WILL BE. Yea, yea, a few techies use it and will probably always use it. It will run millions

    • If Microsoft has its way with Secure Boot, it will be 100 percent.

      • You think so? My understanding is that Secure Boot can be turned off in the BIOS.

        I also thought that you could get a "secure boot" version of Linux.

        If I'm mistaken, please let me know.

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