Trisquel 7 Released

An anonymous reader writes: Trisquel 7.0 Belenos has been released. Trisquel is a "free as in freedom" GNU/Linux distribution endorsed by the FSF. This latest release includes Linux-libre 3.13, GNOME 3.12, Abrowser 33 (based on Firefox), the Electrum Bitcoin client and many more new features and upgrades. Trisquel 7.0 will be supported until 2019.

Interested users can check out the screenshots and download the latest release. The project also accepts donations.

Does it use systemd?

[Anonymous Coward]

Not trolling (much?)... a distro with a high-profile release, avoiding systemd, might be the opportunity to 'fork' that lots of people are looking for (for better or worse).

I looked through the FAQ quickly and didn't see any mention so maybe I just didn't RTFA sufficiently. What exactly is GNOME 'fallback'? Is that a version pre-systemd?

Re: Does it use systemd?

[Anonymous Coward]

It says in a few places that it is "derived from Ubuntu" and that you can convert an Ubuntu system over to it. It also alludes to the fact that it is basically Ubuntu but runs strictly free software.

Based on that I'd say it's pretty much guaranteed to run systemd, 99 and 3/4's percent guaranteed.

Re: Does it use systemd?

[eneville]

It will run systemd, in 2015/2016.

If you don't like that, then do as I does:

# apt-get install sysvinit-core && reboot

or, for Ubuntuers:

$ sudo apt-get install sysvinit-core && sudo reboot

you choose.

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[juanfgs]

sudo apt-get install sysvinit-core && sudo reboot

But then I won't be able to complain online of how I much I hate SystemD

Fallback was GNOME 2, now it's Flashback

[tepples]

"GNOME Fallback" is what Ubuntu called GNOME 2 around the 11.10 era when it decided to all but force Un(usabil)ity on users who haven't already done sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop. Since then, "Fallback" has had another meaning related to GNOME 3: a simpler desktop that originated in support for machines without the 3D acceleration needed for GNOME Shell [wikipedia.org]. Now the port of GNOME Panel [wikipedia.org] UI to GNOME 3 is called GNOME Flashback, and it's developed in parallel with GNOME Shell, which now uses llvmpipe software rendering on machines without 3D acceleration.

Re:

[Anonymous Coward]

Thanks, orig anon coward here. That was actually very informative.

Re:

[KiloByte]

llvmpipe is i386 amd64 only, though. In addition with Gnome's 3D not working with almost any graphics drivers other than Intel, Nvidia and Radeon, this means in practice that Gnome3 is x86-only after they dropped Fallback.

Does it use systemd?

[Anonymous Coward]

Trisquel 7 is still using Upstart, so no need to worry about it until
2016+. ;-

Re:

[ThePhilips]

systemd 204 is the last systemd release where some of its services can be used with the systemd-shim and without systemd as pid 1.

Ubuntu ships 204 for some time too, since GNOME requires the services.

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[Hognoxious]

What exactly is GNOME 'fallback'?

An inferior substitute for MATE [wikipedia.org]

Bitcoin client, eh?

[ArcadeMan]

But is there any IDE for Arduino and is there any support for RepRap 3D printers?

Re:

[gl4ss]

yea some fwraduino or something like that.

(arduino org is pretty picky about the use of the name so it's not quite free as in freedom... and the reason they're picky about it is in order to sell any kind of stuff that comes to their heads with arduino label attached for instant 20% price boost. like "their" 3d printer. the org works 100% like a company now)

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[Stormwatch]

Among computer nerds, "free as in freedom" means precisely what Stallman says it means.

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[DuckDodgers]

I think the notable part is that Trisquel is FSF-endorsed. Few Linux distributions are FSF-endorsed, because most support the use of proprietary firmware. If you care about that sort of thing, then a rare update to one of the totally free ones is notable.

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[ChunderDownunder]

For the purists. debian do 99.9% the right thing but give the user the discretion to add 'nonfree' at their whim.

For example, I downloaded the mini installer iso to attempt to install debian on my machine.

It couldn't connect to the network to complete the install! Culprit - My usb wifi dongle, which worked fine under Ubuntu. Acquiescing to load a firmware and I was up and running.

My otherwise 'pure' system is thus tainted but this wifi dongle has served me 5+ years already, so the pragmatist favours working

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[DuckDodgers]

I agree with you. I don't run Trisquel either, and for the same reasons. I want to live in a world where proprietary software is laughed at, but right now if I insist on fully open source software from top to bottom I'll be kneecapped with respect to what I can do. And if I want to insist on a job working on only fully open source software (ideally free-as-in-freedom software, GPL, AGPL, or MPL) I have to get good enough to attract the attention of someone at Red Hat or Mozilla Foundation, or maybe star

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[Alien1024]

Out of boredom I googled "Microsoft Linux", and found this ancient joke site [mslinux.org]. A joke news from 2000: "MS Linux to have Start Button". Well, with fairly minor differences and a different name such as "Menu" button, damned if it isn't right there at the bottom left corner, on quite a few Desktop Linux themes nowadays, e.g. the standard on Mint Mate.

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[ikhider]

https://www.thinkpenguin.com/g... [thinkpenguin.com] Wireless enabled now. : - )

Trisquel, an excellent all-around distro

[ikhider]

Trisquel is not only the best Libre GNU/Linux distros, but one of the finest all-around. Libre distros generally require sophisticated knowledge to get the things to work, but Trisquel is by light years the easiest to install and actually use. I have used pretty much all the major distros including Arch, Slackware, Suse, Puppy, Fedora, Gentoo, and Debian, as well as all the 'buntus to name a few. They are great, but am very happy with Trisquel. Trisquel is based off of Ubuntu, but it is far more stable. Ubuntu tends to have update diarrhea, while Trisquel, has far less while remaining secure and relevant. While lots of things break under Ubuntu, not so with Trisquel. As a Libre enthusiast, I am thrilled to get a Libre distro that filters out proprietary crap, YET STILL WORKS. If I want proprietary, I can run my Mac and Windows machines. Kudos to the Trisquel team to somehow make the OS/software more stable than Ubuntu. Yes, for my laptop I did have to buy a wifi usb from ThinkPenguin (a person pointed out the wifi issue), but now it works! I like that the OS exclusively runs Libre software so I can compare and contrast my other GNU/Linux software experience and understand just how much proprietary pervades the user experience while great Libre alternatives exist. While Trisquel does have Gnome as default, I did type in the terminal 'sudo apt-get install kde-standard' and got my KDE environs (yeah, I know--but I like it). No way I am knocking the other distros, but if you want a Libre distro that works well (better than the 'buntus), then Trisquel is satisfying.

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[ikhider]

Instead of saying "free" software, because it is misleading, some prefer to use the word "libre", which is a bit closer to the ideal trying to be expressed.