Linux Kernel Shuffling Zombie Juror Aka 3.16 Released 63
sfcrazy writes Linus Torvalds has announced the release of Linux kernel 3.16 codenamed "Shuffling Zombie Juror", which brings many notable improvements. Linus said, "So while 3.16 looked a bit iffy for a while, things cleared up nicely, and there was no reason to do extra release candidates like I feared just a couple of weeks ago." It also means that working on 3.17 has started, "And as usual (previous release being the exception) that means that the merge window for 3.17 is obviously open," said Linus.
BOUND TO BE A BEST SELLER !! (Score:1)
Just by that name alone !!
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Debian will be using the Shuffling Zombie release. So the Shuffling Zombie will live on, for a number of years.
https://lists.debian.org/debia... [debian.org]
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"Shuffling Zombie Juror" is an excellent step towards people taking Linux more seriously.
Re:BOUND TO BE A BEST SELLER !! (Score:5, Informative)
It's actually less crazy [wikipedia.org] than most of them.
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Yeah, I get the idea of catch codenames for internal development, but for public release...I echo your sentiment.
If you want to be taken seriously, dial down the comedy a bit.
Google's "dessert" naming strategy is probably about as far as I'm willing to accept without some serious reservations about the seriousness of your project.
Re:BOUND TO BE A BEST SELLER !! (Score:4, Insightful)
Yeah, just think about all the public!
I mean, just imagine all those people looking at an Android smartphone and asking the salesman "By the way, what's the codename of this phone's Android distribution's kernel? What, Shuffling Zombie Juror?! Oh, no, I think I'll better go to the Apple Store".
Or the managers going "What did you say the kernel on our web server is codenamed?.. Right. You're all fired. We're migrating to Windows, IIS and MS SQL as of now".
Linux just won't be taken seriously by all those people!
PS: Seriously, this argument pops up every new codename change and it doesn't become less stupid. It's a codename that no user will know of a component that most users won't even know the version number of.
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Google turned "Jelly Bean" and "Kit-Kat" into marketing strategies and brands. Mainstream news covering technology refers to Android by those names.
Picking version names like Shuffling Zombie Juror is a turnoff for anyone that hears it who isn't living in their parent's basement.
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Perhaps it's you that's missing my point.
Even people in technology will take something less seriously if you call it Shuffling Zombie Juror. Right or wrong, the name tells people that it's not something to be taken seriously. It might be a case of judging a book by its cover, but "SZJ" hurts more than it helps.
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Then we disagree.
"People in technology" today got to read this story, the one where they discovered the children in charge of naming picked Shuffling Zombie Juror.
It does not inspire confidence in the people behind the product.
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People in charge of naming picked "Linux 3.16" as you can see in official announcement [lkml.org].
Shuffling Zombie Juror is internal codename, which is only public because the source code is public - it's not in the announcement, it's not on the boot screen, it won't be on any product box. It's only there in the source.
If you'd google for this codename (which doesn't work as a name, as it can refer to either 3.14, 3.15 and 3.16) you'd see it's only used in rare instances on geek sites. Most instances are actually copi
Re:BOUND TO BE A BEST SELLER !! (Score:5, Insightful)
..and people who pick software based on their emotional responses to their internal code names aren't worth worrying about anyway. There is nothing more expensive than an irrational customer.
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It does not inspire confidence in the people behind the product.
Linux is not a "product". It's an open, free and Free operating system kernel. Consumer economics is simply the wrong lens with which to view things here.
The code names basically never come up except in slashdot articles. Seriously, I've never encoutered one anywhere else. Maybe they come up on the mailing lists too.
If you look at Linux from the outside, you see the kernel running most of the web, most supercomputers, most smartphones and a hug
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There is nothing more expensive than an irrational customer.
There's nothing more lucrative than an irrational customer. Modern advertising is all about making them respond even more irrationally.
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This is stupid in so many ways.
First: Kernel developers do not care about marketability, marketshare or if their kernelnames names seem silly to others. They don''t care if you use Linux or not. It's all about technical improvements,nto about credibility in some MBAs eyes. Linus is just doing Linux just for fun (he even wrote a book about it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_for_Fun).
Second, I don't think anyone in the business of IT thinks on Linux less because of the kernel names, Linux has enough credi
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If you want to be taken seriously, dial down the comedy a bit.
Linus is already taken seriously by a more than sufficient number of people, so he couldn't care less how seriously you take him. Meanwhile, the kernel's code name isn't going to be printed on any boxes, nor used as a bullet point. The numeric version will be provided, if anything, as always.
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Linus is already taken seriously by a more than sufficient number of people, so he couldn't care less how seriously you take him.
That's a strawman.
Naming your kernel SLZ doesn't inspire confidence in the product or the people behind it.
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The programming behind it does, and it either meets your needs or not. The name is irrelevant. Good technical people learn not to use their emotions as first pass filters.
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Great.
Now train every PHB to not use their emotions as first pass filters.
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The seriousness of your project is determined by the engineering quality that when into it, not a string.
Re:BOUND TO BE A BEST SELLER !! (Score:4, Informative)
hm... (Score:1)
Arch not the first (Score:5, Informative)
The article suggests that Arch will be the first distribution to have 3.16, but Gentoo got there before it,
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[1] ArchLinux testing/linux package push date at 2014-08-04 06:24:21 (GMT) Source [archlinux.org]
[2] Gentoo sys-kernel/linux-headers changelog change date at
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What do you suggest? Nobody use the software until somehow all bugs magically go away?
Or is your strawman that all systems somehow are production systems?
I take it you're the kind of person who wouldn't even bother to file a proper bug report. Thanks for nothing.
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Testers can install the kernel without it being baked into a distro.
Its funny how many people don't remember what it was like before modern distros that do all the work for you. Freaking noobs.
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Saying that it's irresponsible to make the most recent version of software availabl
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That being said, I don't even use Linux, at least not for any kind of servers, so I daresay your little rant was a bit beside the point.
Then again, it's pretty obvious that you were just taking the opportunity to proclaim that you're a true Linux Expert(TM) <shudders>, so whatever.
Finally, you make yourself look like an idiot by assuming that there's a substantial difference between "T
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People can and do use gentoo stable in production environments. It does require a non braindead admin to set it up, but the results are limber and powerful, esp for updating and maintaining large numbers of hosts. The fact you don't even use linux suggests the gp is right. You are the newb here.
By all means, use what you want, but 95% of the software is the same regardless of distro.
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Actually it appeared in the Ubuntu 14.10 Alpha 2 releases a few days ago.
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The article suggests that Arch will be the first distribution to have 3.16, but Gentoo got there before it,
Reminds me of a kindergarten: "I was first! No, me! But I did it before you!"
Now, children, why can't we all play nicely?
Linux 3:16 Says... (Score:4, Funny)
Why the hell wasn't this version called Stone Cold Steve Austinux?
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Or Rollen Stewartux. [wikipedia.org]
Re:Linux 3:16 Says... (Score:4, Funny)
How about, "Forgiven SYNs?"
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for releases with lots of usb updates, how about sarux sharpux?
Linus's office (Score:4, Interesting)
Bad name... (Score:1)
Joystick support on Linux a mess (Score:2)
I have just updated my Dualshock3 (to a Dualshock4) which although was wonderful and just worked out of the box...with the exception of bluetooth...which I didn't care about and rumble (although grumbels driver and Linux 3.15 now support it...now I don't have one). which I did . Where is joystick support on Linux last time I looked was a unnecessary nightmare...trivial to set up if the program has its own joystick configuration, a nightmare to get sensible universal settings.
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Dude, Linux is a text adventure game. Just use HJKL.
You laugh, but I give you VIM Adventures [vim-adventures.com].
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Where is joystick support on Linux last time I looked was a unnecessary nightmare...trivial to set up if the program has its own joystick configuration, a nightmare to get sensible universal settings.
Depends on your application. The easy "hack" I use with my Dualshock3 and Game Boy Emulator is a program that converts joystick buttons presses to keyboard button presses. It also sends key commands when the joystick goes beyond a certain point, or can convert joystick motion to mouse movement.. It's called Qjoypad if you're interested.
Pro: Easy setup
Cons: Analog joystick and button presses are converted to digital keyboard presses. So you lose the fine control.
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Linus Torvalds (Score:1)
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Roll Your Own (Score:1)
I reject the argument that you should wait for the distro to release their own roll, except in those cases where custom patches are required to support the hardware or other software.
Instead, you should think about what it is you want, what you need to support, and what isn't working the way you like. Bring in only those external patches that actually do something for you, then configure and build the kernel.
Use hardware probes, the proc directory and whatever documentation you've not accidentally shredded