Linux 3.11 Released 98
hypnosec writes "Linus Torvalds has just announced the release of Linux 3.11 as anticipated. Torvalds notes that the final version doesn't bring in a lot more than what is already present in the rc7, but it does include fixes — most of them in networking, file systems, and audio."
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in the butt.
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That was yesterday, dipshit, and only in the US.
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Oh, yeah, timezones, duh. Nevermind...
*goes off in search of coffee*
Is it for Workgroups? (Score:5, Funny)
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I think we're pretty much past that joke by now.
A dozen articles on this website already mentioned that, after even Linus himself mentioned Windows for Workgroups 3.11.
And to all the people using karma to 'thumbs up' those Workgroups comments: get a life.
Re:Is it for Workgroups? (Score:5, Insightful)
I think we're pretty much past that joke by now.
This is slashdot. Think again.
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I think we're pretty much past that joke by now.
This is slashdot. Think again.
In Soviet Slashdot, joke is past you!
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And to think it's taken the amateurs this long to reach the point where the professionals at Microsoft were in the mid 90's. If that doesn't demonstrate the difference between commercial and open-source software, nothing will.
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I won't install it until 3.11b
The Real Secret Of Linus (Score:5, Funny)
When Linus dies, he will be embalmed like Stalin and kept in a glass case for all the acolytes to file past... Eventually, like Stalin, most of his flesh will be replaced with wax. Indeed, secretly, Madame Tussaud will be asked to create a Torvald corpse to replace the real body, which will be shipped to a laboratory where technicians will attempt to reanimate Linus. This will be done with secret procedures gleaned from hacking Scientology's servers on how they did the same thing to Tom Cruise.
Re:The Real Secret Of Linus (Score:5, Funny)
I'm pretty sure for Tom Cruise they got it mixed up and shipped the wax version to the lab for reanimation.
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To be fair, that's a mistake anyone could easily make.
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Re: The Real Secret Of Linus (Score:1)
Re:The Real Secret Of Linus (Score:4, Interesting)
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> When Linus dies, he will be embalmed like Stalin...
It's spelled "Stallman".
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Possibly the name was only for rc1 though.
That would be sad. Depends if the modified logo is still in the git reop under the 3.11 branch.
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You have just described the history of comedy since Aristophanes
Re:Linux for Workgroups 3.11 (Score:4, Funny)
This is the release version.
Try to keep up.
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Re:Linux for Workgroups 3.11 (Score:4, Informative)
That's correct. Here's the diff: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/Makefile?id=ad81f0545ef01ea651886dddac4bef6cec930092 [kernel.org].
Note that the previous version, 3.10, was named "Unicycling Gorilla". The fact that you probably had no idea it was named that shows just how important these release names are. :)
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That's right, the f stands for 'for' and is not, as you would like to believe, a description of what Linux was doing to those Workgroups
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Reminds me of a comment by an overpaid manager saying that Windows was more mature because it was at version 7 while Linux was behind at 3.
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Mint is on 14, so that's one better.
next version (Score:1)
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It's called Zorin.
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It's a Horse_ebooks wannabe.
Lovin' my Linux 3.8... (Score:1)
* Kernel panic when I set my sleeping Thinkpad on my desk and plug in USB hub, displayport and power.
* Bluetooth audio freaking out pretty much anytime
* As soon as desktop apps start to push into swap memory, system freezes in endless swap loop (great way to wear out my SSD).
* Any time the system is taxed more than 70%, mouse pointer gets jumpy
Android would be a similar mess if Google had not laid down the law as to what kernel changes were necessary for mobile.
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isn't linux suppose to run on a toaster? But whenever someone brings up a problem its their piece of shit, and of course no one is having issues, no one else fucking uses it
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From the litany of problems listed, it sounds like there might be hardware issues, but drivers are a possibility as well.
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That doesnt mean its not a hardware problem-- which it sounds like it is.
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Sorry, no hardware issues. Everything works perfectly in diagnostics and Windows 7...and by "everything" I also mean all the other hardware functions I can't even try to use under Linux.
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The first does not follow from the other.
One common problem is broken hardware, with an undocumented workaround in the Windows driver. Or a broken Windows standard driver, with an undocumented workaround in the hardware.
Once you get the BIOS involved, it gets even worse. Nowadays, the BIOS can do things differently depending on the OS. One motherboard had a BIOS workaround for an old bug in a 2.6 or 2.4 kernel. The next kernel
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Thanks for the litany of excuses, but at least half of the problems (like the swapping and mouse pointer problems) encountered on Linux desktops have nothing to do with drivers. Its mainly due to software architecture that's poorly suited to desktop environments.
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True. I've been running Xubuntu on a Thinkpad T60 (since Natty) with no problems.
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In other news bleeding edge stuff bleeds sometimes. If you want something more solid use a version that has been tested a bit more.
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I think the toaster OS is NetBSD.
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you could try upgrading your kernel to get access to newer driver revisions.
Re:Lovin' my Linux 3.8... ;) (Score:4, Interesting)
You obviously don't know what you're doing, and it's your fault for choosing junk, uncommon hardware. BTW, real men use a PS/2 mouse rather than new fangled USB thing. The cursor stays responsive in swap hell when it doesn't have to go through a USB stack.
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Please tell us what distro you're using so we can start a flame war. :D
On a more serious note, How do you know it's a kernel panic? Is it in the logs? Does it drop to a terminal saying it? Except for the kernel panic part, I'd say that most of these things seem to be GUI and sound related. Have you checked the nice values for those systems. It could be that their "process priority" is the same as everything else. Most distros try to make sure that essential user mode processes and drivers are running
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Next version (Score:1)
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Kernel Newbies (Score:5, Informative)
If you're going to post Linux release announcements, remember to link the Kernel Newbies page, since they document the big changes.
http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.11
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The link says:
Another use is for creating an initially unreachable file, write whatever you want into it, fchmod()/fchown()/fsetxattr() it as you wish, then atomically link it in, already fully set up.
But it doesn't mention which system call to use for the last step. Which system call can be used to create a new link in the file system based on an open file descriptor?
Did he say "audio"? (Score:2)
I should probably go take a closer look. I've been disappointed so many times, though, that my expectations are not high.
I'm sure someone has already said this, but the fact that this is Linux 3.11 means that the next version will be Linux NT.
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I'm sure someone has already said this, but the fact that this is Linux 3.11 means that the next version will be Linux NT.
And it really should be.
Sound fixes are more extensive FANTASTIC (Score:5, Interesting)
What is really fantastic is the extended support for pro usb devices from Roland and Yamaha. It should be very possible to create a really effective cheap laptop DAW running Linux tuned for RT audio without having to mess install drivers the way you do with Windows. Not that you could not use these devices in the past it was just difficult to set them up correctly because alsa had trouble working with most Roland mixers and the like the only way to do it sometimes was using a stupid setup that was flaky as hell.
I hope this kernel version is adopted quickly by the Ubuntu Studio guys, but if necessary I will roll my own so I can use Roland usb devices with my laptop!
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I'm sure Saucy will run on 3.11. There's already a release in the mainline PPA.
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-saucy/ [ubuntu.com]
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I'm sure Saucy will run on 3.11. There's already a release in the mainline PPA.
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-saucy/ [ubuntu.com]
Thanks, great, think I will do a complete re-install though as there are a few things I have messed up trying to compile a specialized ffmpeg dlna stuff. What I am trying to do is create a real time dlna output with audio straight from input. Not an easy task. Would make a neat interface if you could create a stream directly from ffmpeg recording input. I am sure it can be done with existing libraries but scripting it is not easy.
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And then swear next month when the Arch devs make another major change that breaks your system if you forget to read the front page first for things that must be changed manually before running pacman.
No thanks, it's much easier to compile my own kernel on a Debian-descended distro.
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Without reading any of the previous comments
Yeah, right... You are only the 32497234th person to do that joke because of not reading previous comments...
Linux Today (Score:1)
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Those rich people run their stock exchange on Linux.