Debian Project Releases 7.0 "Wheezy" Installer Candidate 100
An anonymous reader writes "The first release candidate of Debian Installer 7.0 Wheezy was released this week. Debian 7.0 is set to introduce a number of new features including optional systemd support, a real-time Linux kernel option, UEFI installation support, and the Debian Installer now supports WPA/WPA2 wireless networks. More Debian 7.0 features are listed on the Debian Wiki and the 7.0 RC1 installer can be downloaded at Debian.org."
Update: 02/21 16:12 GMT by S : Changed headline and summary to reflect that it was the Installer release candidate, not the distribution.
Ugh!!! (Score:5, Informative)
This is the Debian Installer, not Debian.
As a DD, I was shocked slashdot knew before me.
A RC of the installer, not of the distribution (Score:5, Informative)
This is RC1 of the debian installer, not of the wheezy distribution.
Moronix (Score:3, Insightful)
I swear to god if you keep posting articles that are links to Phoronix I'm going to firewall off your site and never visit again.
How about you link to the real source (mailing lists, official Debian website) instead of sending traffic to Michael Larabel's bullshit ramblings about LOONIX NEWS that he can't even properly comprehend let alone summarize 95% of the time.
Re:Moronix (Score:4, Funny)
I swear to god if you keep posting articles that are links to Phoronix I'm going to firewall off your site and never visit again.
It's too bad that slashdotters so poorly comprehend maturity or we could go ahead and just deprecate it by always calling it Moronix or Whoreonix (I have nothing against whores, only secret whores) or similar. But you can't even throw in a Micro$oft without some whining from people who don't remember Compu$erve.
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If you can't type a company's name without defacing it to make your point, you're a fucking idiot.
If your idea is so bad that you fear logging in and having it associated with your name, you're full of shit.
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Yeah because registering a throwaway email to reply to some dipshit named "Drinkypoo" totally isn't a waste of time.
If you need a username attached to an idea to take it seriously, you're a fucking idiot who is full of shit.
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crapslosh: spews or turds, cruft that spatters
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I swear to god if you keep posting articles that are links to Phoronix I'm going to firewall off your site and never visit again.
At least they could get the summary right. Not bluntly state something that is entirely and obviously false.
It's the dam installer that's being released, it looks like they stated a new Debian was being released just to drive links to Phoronix.
Re:Moronix (Score:5, Insightful)
Phoronix isn't exactly a good news site. Nevertheless, it's probably the only site that does Linux hardware reviews, follows the progress of various open source initiatives and does that having a single semi-journalist. Good, properly staffed computer news sites out there like Anand and Tom's Hardware completely ignore Linux, Unix, BSD and what have you, therefore, inaccurate as it can be, Phoronix is the best source of information we have. Plus, bitching about inaccuracies on slashdot is borderline hilarious. This is the holy grail of fabricated flamebaits.
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i wish i could mod parent +5 funny and +5 insightful... although its also trollbait for really bad crocodile dundee spoofs like "that's not a distro, THIS is a distro" followed by a short trip down memory lane about how he had to create his own punch cards to add two numbers together
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is there a package for that?
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Sid's not the messiah... he's a very naughty boy!
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How could this be, when 80% of the packages of Ubuntu comes from Debian SID?
Bleeding edge only matters in software you directly interact with for casual use: That 20% should easily cover the kernel, X, the DEs, the web browsers, Libreoffice, Wine, and any GUI programs large enough to have a Windows port. Sid may not be bleeding edge, but for the other 80% it isn't obsolete enough to truly bother anyone that notices.
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Please stop repeating the bul**hit that everyon
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Well, have a better look before spreading lies. For kernel [debian.org], web browser [debian.net] and libreoffice [debian.org]
Kernel: [debian.org]
Stable - 2.6
Testing - 3.2
Unstable - 3.2 (released July, 2012)
Current version [kernel.org] - 3.8
Those 3.6/3.7 files seen in your link? Experimental [debian.org]. Yeah you could make it work, but then you aren't running Sid anymore. Not entirely. And if you run too much experimental for too long, something is going to end up horribly broken.
Firefox/Iceweasel [debian.org]:
Stable - 3.5
Testing - 10esr
Unstable - 10esr (released March 2012)
Current Version [mozilla.org] - 19.0
Libreoffice:
Stable - 3.5
Testing - 3.5
Unstable - 3.5 (released Februar
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The kernel 3.8 has been released 6 days ago. Do you think that's reasonable to expect that it reaches Debian in less than a week? I don't. Debian experimental has Firefox 19, and Libreoffice 4 and XFCE 4.10.
So, for each and every example you gave, you've been defeated.
You'd
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Do you know what happens when there's a freeze of the next stable? Well, it's easy, we don't upload to SID. But we upload to Experimental instead.
You brought up the amount of Sid in Ubuntu. My point was that only a small portion of Ubuntu "needs" to be bleeding edge, and that Sid is "good enough" for the rest of it. Now you're arguing that... Sid isn't bleeding edge because development happens in experimental? Yeah, I know. That's fine. I'm not worried about it.
The kernel 3.8 has been released 6 days ago. Do you think that's reasonable to expect that it reaches Debian in less than a week? I don't. Debian experimental has Firefox 19, and Libreoffice 4 and XFCE 4.10.
Not reasonable, no, but I wasn't about to claim 3.7 as the current version.
It doesn't matter what versions are in experimental, because - like you pointed out at the start of the thread - Ubu
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cool toys like Unity and the Dash.
Thanks, I needed a laugh :)
Re:Quite actual - Not! (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't think you understand the Debian philosophy. It's not "latest and greatest". It's "so stable, Archimedes could stand here to move the whole world"
Re:Quite actual - Not! (Score:4, Insightful)
And with the software as old as Archimedes.
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Well very often you have massive legacy applications that also consists of mature code in maintenance mode where behind a few years behind the bleeding edge doesn't matter at all, as long as it's rock stable and receive security patches. Where you'd like upgrade day and every day after to be yet another uneventful and boring day, because the only alternative is a really bad day. If you really need bleeding edge features or is doing new development I'd use something newer, but if not you just bleed for no re
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Which is exactly what many people seem to like, just look at the amount of Windows XP users.
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Well, at work i am using the debian 6 version on my desktop.
For a long time it was the only distribution you could find that would actually provide you with a stable and well working kde version.
I'll be upgrading when the debian 7 version comes out. whenever that will be.
And you know, that suits me just fine.
The only packages i upgraded are firefox, chrome, flash and libreoffice.
Other than that i had no need to run any linux distribution more current than debian 6.
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It's the exact same software as Ubuntu 12.04, whose usable version is called Linux Mint 13 Mate or Linux Mint 13 Xfce.
Debian stable when released will allow to install a slight variant, more vanilla looking of the same thing, with its highs and lows - e.g. what bullshit do I need to type on the prompt to install all non free firmware.
I wouldn't install anything else on a friend's computer, a public computer, for a relative I barely know at all etc., all situations where it's nice that the computer still wor
Debian more or less up to date (Score:2)
KDE 4.8 is recent enough - the current version is 4.Ten. Even GNOME 3.4 is recent enough. Okay, Linux 3.2 is old, but honestly, after Linux 3.0, there haven't been much changes to Linux, and Debian probably doesn't want to put on things like Btrfs, FFSF and so on on it - things that are brand new.
I do look forward to when Debian will have support for Wayland, as well as their other ports, like kFreeBSD up & running. Also, I'd like Debian to do BSD based userland utilities, like LLVM/Clang
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fire timothy. fire timothy NOW.
This guy has a valid point.
Stop posting link farm bull crap Timothy and get the dam summary right.
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slashdot does not publish so many articles everyday. Probably less than 30. How difficult is it to actually RTFA before publishing the summary and title?
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slashdot does not publish so many articles everyday. Probably less than 30. How difficult is it to actually RTFA before publishing the summary and title?
Very difficult if someone is paying you to spam links to their site.
The next next story could well be 'Viagra is good for your sex life' with links to dodgy on-line drug stores.
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TIMMAAH!!!!!
Wrong title (Score:5, Informative)
Even the Phoronix article clearly has "Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" Installer Release Candidate 1" See that? INSTALLER!
Stop degrading Slashdot with misleading headlines!
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Ok, but the first sentence in the article reads:
and the rest is also misleading. So, basically, the original headline ammounts to a halfway acceptable honest mistake.
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you'll probably find that those whinging about such a technicality are those who don't use debian
wheezy (Score:5, Funny)
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Wheezy / Toy Story reference (Score:4, Informative)
No need to assume anything here. It's explained nicely in this FAQ: The Debian GNU/Linux FAQ - section 6.2 [debian.org]
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Wheezy was George Jefferson's wife on the Jeffersons.
Of course.
With these new features who can't say the Debian Installer isn't "movin' on up"?
Wrong wrong wrong (Score:5, Insightful)
WRONG wrong wrong WRONG wrong wrong WRONG wrong wrong WRONG wrong wrong WRONG wrong wrong!!!!!!!!!
Timothy, what the fuck are you doing?
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He's Timothy being Timothy.
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Thank you for the correction, soulskill. Please do slap Timothy with a large trout for us.
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I'd mod you to +6, if only I could. So we'll just leave it at heart felt: if only Timothy would be running on Debian (the person, not his computer.)
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You installed Wheezy for a school, and sound didn't work?
First, Wheezy is a testing distro, I wouldn't install it unless I really needed something in it. In this case, I did install it (and like it) but, I did it because I couldn't get sound to work under the stable distro, not the other way around.
So you are willing to run a testing distro, and take the time to badmouth what doesn't work in testing, but also wont take the time to report bugs to the devs. Nice work there. Yah its a little rough around the e
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Now, if you don't bother reporting bugs (let alone trying to fix them or contribute somehow), please don't bother either complaining on public websites.
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it could have been worse... you could have installed ubuntu
219 to go (Score:2)
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now now that's not like the modern corporate software machine that markets and sells alpha quality releases and expects customers to do the testing for them (and pay for the privelige)
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You can. You just have to roll your own CD image, or boot from PXE or the like so you can pass arguments to the boot kernel.
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The trouble is that com port may not be correct, or it's parameters. You can try to choose sensible defaults, but the fact is they won't work everywhere.
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are you talking about booting off a serial port?
i've done some pxe installs over lan, but i didn't think modern bios could even boot from rs232
would be pretty neat though
for headless servers needing reinstall, maybe booting from usb on the server with a usb connection to a tablet that not only provides the boot image but also displays the screen... not as geek as rs232 or kvm etc but
Wheezy (Score:3)
Well we're movin on up, To the east side.
To a deluxe apartment in the sky.
Movin on up
To the east side.
We finally got a piece of the pie.
Wheezy's other OSs (Score:2)
List of new features (Score:2)
I don't know if you were just listing from TFA about the installer candidate, but I noticed you left out "Proper multi arch support" from the list of wheezy features. This is actually a big deal for users interested in Debian, since the ia32libs package was a goddamn monster.
Aside from that, there a few small nuances, such as the mtpfs package disappearing from the repos (try mounting Android on Debian now, sucker!), but the things listed from the article plus multi arch are probably the biggest.
NFS install still missing (Score:2)
While it's very easy to use Wheezy as a NFS root filesystem, I found strange that the install still don't allow to mount a NFS share to install a root filesystem on it. I still have to install a real disk on the machine, select it for the installation and then copy his content into the machine's folder on the NFS server. A NFS mount into the installer will make the real disk and the copy no longer required.
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I already have tried that way but i found it not useful.
First the server use a very conservative policy regarding distribution and is because of that constantly hitting the too old barrier about current debootstrap. Second debootstrap only install a very minimal image that require a lot of tweaks until you get all the standard features of a today distribution. Finally debootstrap in not as simple as using the installer. The installer is designed to be simple and it's a good thing.
Proposing a NFS mount is re
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hi there mr ballmer :)
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omg! mr ballmer uses linux everyday!?