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9 Features We May See In Ubuntu 11.10 281

splitenz writes "Canonical's Ubuntu 11.04 'Natty Narwhal' may still be occupying much of the Linux world's attention, but at last week's Ubuntu Developer Summit in Budapest, the next version of the free and open source Linux distribution began to take form. A number of decisions were reportedly made about Ubuntu 11.10, or 'Oneiric Ocelot,' at the conference, while numerous other questions are still being debated. ... Here's a roundup of what's been reported so far."
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9 Features We May See In Ubuntu 11.10

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  • Re:When is... (Score:4, Informative)

    by rubycodez ( 864176 ) on Tuesday May 17, 2011 @10:11PM (#36161510)
    Ubuntu is animal-centric in release naming. For release naming with sexual connotations, I suggest migrating to Gaybuntu, Archhole, Hoin'SuSIE, Ephebian or maybe OpenBSD&M
  • by mathfeel ( 937008 ) on Tuesday May 17, 2011 @10:23PM (#36161580)
    All my machines are Arch or Gentoo, except two I leave home for my parents to use, which run Ubuntu. I recently upgraded to Nauty remotely for them, forgetting to tell them that the default desktop is now Unity. So far, besides slightly slower start up after login (the machines could use more RAM anyway), they like the new Desktop. Their commonly used apps' are automatically set up as big and visible icon on the left-edge dock. (I used to put AWN, a bottom-screen dock, up for them, but they always find it obstructing even with auto-hide). They also like that menu item for all apps consistently appears when the cursor hovers over the top edge. I am ambivalent myself toward Unity, but if it pass their test. I would say it can't be all that bad.
  • by nnull ( 1148259 ) on Tuesday May 17, 2011 @10:41PM (#36161718)
    I actually had to uninstall ubuntu from my mothers computer because she hated it (Upgraded from 10 to 11, I know big mistake). It kept crashing with skype (it never did before), the interface is messed up, there's no option to turn off desktop effects other than manually setting up metacity --replace, and a host of other stuff. And yes, this is after using the "classic desktop" option. I ended up installing Mint and she's not calling me anymore about problems. So my parents don't like it, so it didn't pass their test.
  • Re:Killer App? (Score:5, Informative)

    by cwebster ( 100824 ) on Tuesday May 17, 2011 @10:48PM (#36161768)

    The release version is frozen in time, essentially. The only thing that a named release will get is security and some other important updates. As for stable, testing, and sid:

    stable always points to the current named release (today squeeze, later something else). When the new release is released, if you are running stable, an apt-get dist-upgrade will pull down the new release.

    New package versions are pushed into sid. Sid can be frustrating because you might update to a package with broken dependancies or other issues that will not install. Give it a few days and it'll probably be fixed.

    After some period of time in Sid, those packages move to testing. Testing is where I run, as it is continually updated and I have not observed many instances of breakage. When its time for a release, testing goes through a freeze and then becomes stable. Or something like that.

    If you want stability, run stable.
    If you want cutting edge, run sid.
    If you want a reasonable mix of both, run testing.

  • Re:Killer App? (Score:4, Informative)

    by oakgrove ( 845019 ) on Tuesday May 17, 2011 @10:51PM (#36161784)
    Sid, i.e., unstable is the bleeding edge rolling release. For historical reasons, it actually tends to break less than testing which is called Wheezy right now. While Squeeze is indeed the latest stable release, it is frozen and will only get security updates until Wheezy becomes the new stable thus repeating the cycle. Debian usually runs on an eighteen to twenty four month cycle but it's really an Id-esque "it's done when it's done" kind of release pattern. The bottom line is, if you want traditional rock solid Debian stability, you go with stable which right now is called Squeeze. If you want a still relatively stable system that is constantly updated, go for Sid bearing in mind that you can't just download a Sid CD. You have to get stable or testing and upgrade it. I hope I haven't been unclear.
  • Re:Killer App? (Score:5, Informative)

    by kvvbassboy ( 2010962 ) on Tuesday May 17, 2011 @11:12PM (#36161938)
    Actually, Debian recommends running Sid over Testing [], simply because bug fixes could potentially take longer to get into testing.

    From personal experience, for a normal user I would recommend Sid too, because you get the latest software, and breakages happen very rarely.

No problem is so large it can't be fit in somewhere.