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Linux 2.6.36 Released 238

diegocg writes "Version 2.6.36 of the Linux kernel has been released. This version includes support for the Tilera architecture, a new filesystem notification interface called fanotify, CIFS local caching, support for Intel Intelligent Power Sharing in i3/5 systems, integration of the kernel debugger and KMS, inclusion of the AppArmor security system, a redesign of workqueues optimized for concurrency, and several new drivers and small improvements. See the full changelog here for more details."
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Linux 2.6.36 Released

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  • Re:And yet? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 21, 2010 @10:29AM (#33973232)

    In other words, Loonix is not ready for the mainstream desktop user.

    There, fixed that for you

  • Re:And yet? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by CarpetShark ( 865376 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @10:44AM (#33973436)

    But can it play fullscreen flash video smoothly yet?

    The problem that prevents flash from playing fullscreen is that it's closed source crap, not that Linux is in any way incomplete.

  • Re:And yet? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by LingNoi ( 1066278 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @10:59AM (#33973644) []

    Loonix is a custom Linux distribution meant for server applications.

    I'm guessing it doesn't play flash since it's a server distribution. Silly question really.

  • Re:And yet? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by underqualified ( 1318035 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:06AM (#33973736)
    linux doesn't have poor support for flash. flash has poor support for linux.
  • by 0123456 ( 636235 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:08AM (#33973770)

    The problem is in the fragmentation of distributions and the fragmentation in the GUI.

    True. We should only have one auto manufacturer making one model of car too, because having so many companies selling so many different types of car is terribly confusing.

  • Re:And yet? (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:09AM (#33973788)

    May we conclude the same thing about iOS based on this logic, too? If Flash isn't considered 'necessary' for Linux, why should it be deemed 'necessary' for any other device or platform?

    I'm still waiting to see the open source community's "Thank You!" to Steve Jobs for helping to start the demise of Flash on the web. After all - closed source is never good, so making a device that publishers want to target which doesn't allow them to use shitty flash technology is a great win for the consumer - isn't it? Or are you all just bent that Apple is succeeding in doing something you've never been able to accomplish despite all the flowery, toe-jam-eating rhetoric Stallman spouts?

  • by at_slashdot ( 674436 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:12AM (#33973846)

    What makes you think that people who work on a distribution would work on another if there wouldn't be for the one that they work on? Since they are not doing it now it means they have reasons not to do it.

    That applies in corporate world too, do you think that people who work for Apple would work for Microsoft if there wouldn't be Apple?

    And here we were actually talking about a new version of the kernel, not about any distribution, why do you troll?

  • Re:And yet? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Yvan256 ( 722131 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:18AM (#33973950) Homepage Journal

    If it was a Microsoft troll shouldn't it be about Silverlight and mono?

  • Re:And yet? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by xtracto ( 837672 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:18AM (#33973956) Journal

    But can it play fullscreen flash video smoothly yet?

    The problem that prevents flash from playing fullscreen is that it's closed source crap, not that Linux is in any way incomplete.

    Yup, that's 100% Adobe's fault... and also 100% Linux problem.

  • by squizzar ( 1031726 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:46AM (#33974360)

    I use my linux desktop at work every day, and my linux laptop at home every day. My wireless router runs linux every day, and the several embedded products I'm working on run linux every day (when I haven't broken something...).

    I have a car and a motorcycle that I can use to get to work or wherever every day. Neither are suitable for transporting cattle, but then that's not an issue for me. Your reasoning is that because you presumably have some situation for which no distribution fits your needs then all distributions are not ready for daily usage?

  • by Late Adopter ( 1492849 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:46AM (#33974362)

    There was inotify, dnotify, fsnotify, fam, gamin, incrond... and since fam/gamin always ended up using 100% CPU or causing other problems

    Of those, only inotify and dnotify were userspace-facing solutions in the stock kernel. Fsnotify was a backend, intentionally preparing the way for fanotify, and it was never intended to be used directly. Fam and gamin are third-party, and unless you know you specifically need them, you should avoid. Incrond is a great userspace program to use inotify... but not an alternative to anything in that list.

    Dnotify was something of an embarrassment, but inotify's been with us a while and it's worked well. Fanotify is an evolution of that, to fix architectural problems that have led to race conditions and scalability concerns. Inotify (and dnotify) is being reimplemented on top of it, so if the inotify interface doesn't cause any problems for you, plan to continue using it (and incrond if you like)!

  • Re:And yet? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by rubycodez ( 864176 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @11:56AM (#33974504)

    it's the crappy state of both kinds of audio on Linux. that's the only place in the GNU/Linux realm where having choices don't seem to be a good idea (when they're both bad)

  • by GooberToo ( 74388 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @12:01PM (#33974598)

    Is this a case of linux kernel developers copying features that are in the Mac OS X darwin kernel?

    Doubtful. This is really an area of natural evolution. Meaning, first to market, if that is in fact really the case, hardly means everyone else is copying what is really an obvious and extremely simple idea.

    For example, planes needed to go faster. Solution, make them more aerodynamic. When everyone started making planes more aerodynamic, does that really mean everyone copied the first to do so? Hardly. It means, they all understood the problem and someone was simply first to market.

    Now if you have something which indicates the APIs on OSX are particularly clever in exposing this feature and that everyone is copying those APIs, you might have a point, but I don't see you arguing that position.

    Believe it or not, humanity frequently, independently, suffers from a natural progression of ideas. The fact that this occurs more or less validates no one is copying.

    Case in point: I want to know when a file changes. In what ways can a file change? Those are natural progressions in seeking a solution to an extremely common problem. If you answer my question, does that you too are copying?

  • Re:And yet? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by BrokenHalo ( 565198 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @12:37PM (#33975144)
    flash has poor support for linux.

    Exactly. And, to be honest, I don't really care. I wouldn't even consider taking the time to view a full-length Flash movie. Flash support for Linux is more than adequate for viewing crappy YouTube movie clips, which is just about all Flash is good for in the first place.

    Many site designers seem to think it's cool to embed the entire content of their webpage into a Flash presentation, but I find this irritating enough that unless I have already decided I am really keen on investigating the content for some compelling reason, I will usually just pass the site by.
  • by XanC ( 644172 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @12:48PM (#33975320)

    Have you tried using a distribution, instead of throwing random versions of different software onto a system and hoping it magically all works together?

    "Linux on the desktop" will happen (and does happen) through distributions.

  • Re:Great... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by wagnerrp ( 1305589 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @01:44PM (#33976298)
    Since when is Linux an operating system?
  • Re:TFA (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ArundelCastle ( 1581543 ) on Thursday October 21, 2010 @03:13PM (#33977930)
    But 80% of that 90% will only read The Full Changelog.
  • Re:2011 (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 22, 2010 @02:14AM (#33983118)

    depends how well android based smartphones and tablets do (they are general purpose computers and do count)

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