Fedora 13 Is Out 268
ultranerdz writes "Fedora 13 has just been released. It includes major features such as automatic print driver installation, automatic language pack installation, redesigned user account tool, color management to calibrate monitors and scanners, experimental 3-D support for NVIDIA video cards, and more."
Direct Link to Changelog (Score:5, Informative)
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/13/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_in_Fedora_for_Desktop_Users.html [fedoraproject.org]
Re:is it faster? (Score:2, Informative)
Yes, starting with Fedora 12, yum has been *much* faster, because it only downloads the differences between the installed and updated package.
Re:is it faster? (Score:4, Informative)
Preparing to jump, who is with me? (Score:5, Informative)
I'm just trialing Fedora 13 in a VM right now, if i dont run into any showstoppers i'll be ditching ubuntu this week on my main rig
best of all, i have a tasy intel SSD on my desk right now which will be the system-drive for my new fedora install
anyone with me?
Re:is it faster? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Sweet (Score:5, Informative)
Now I begin my bi annual ritual of backing up my data, and making a new live CD
Why create a CD? It's better to use LiveUSB Creator [fedorahosted.org] to put the LiveCD bootable image onto a USB flash drive. There's even a nice GUI, works on Linux (of course) or Windows. Here's the How-to. [fedoraproject.org].
And 1GB flash drives are cheap and plentiful these days ... if you can even buy a flash drive that small anymore.
Re:GDMConf (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Fedora? (Score:4, Informative)
Sounds like you have never used Fedora.
Fedora 12 [youtube.com]
Fedora 13 [youtube.com]
Re:Fedora? (Score:3, Informative)
Fedora has one of the best PPC32 communities I've found. The only other option I've found was Debian- Gentoo was one option, but that PPC32 community seems to be less than 10 people. Otherwise OpenSuSE's dropped PPC32 and finding versions for either Ubuntu or Slackware is a herculean challenge
Re:Sweet (Score:1, Informative)
The last Ubuntu (yes, the LTS release) has a royal heap of new, hot gimmicky stuff that isn't properly tested. It is *not* stable.
Not that I care (I like to think I can fight my way out of a mal-behaving system), but to think that "LTS" means that it contains proven software instead of just the latest version they could grab from the net is misguided.
Re:Sweet (Score:3, Informative)
Re:is it faster? (Score:1, Informative)
...used rpm and apt? And you're a sysadmin? You do know that yum is to RPM as apt is to deb, right?
Re:Fedora? (Score:3, Informative)
I was at a linux install-fest a couple months ago where we were installing Fedora 12 and Ubuntu 9.10 on a pile of donated computers that were given to families that could not afford a new computer. Some of the kids there were swearing up and down by Ubuntu, how special and wonderful it is and how Fedora was no match.
While testing one of the Fedora systems one of the kids wandered by and exclaimed "Ubuntu!!! .... oh, that's Fedora". Silly kids.
The point of the story, other than some differences in file locations and scripts there is far greater similarity between Ubuntu and Fedora than there are differences. They are both using the same open source software. Its not like Windows vs OS/X. And selecting a brown color theme for your desktop is not some advanced futuristic feature. Grow up.
Case in point, Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop [youtube.com]
Re:Fedora? (Score:1, Informative)
It's ironic you should mention PPC, since Fedora 12 was the last one where PPC was a primary architecture. Starting with F13, PPC is relegated to a secondary architecture. Whatever that actually means, it will end up with fewer developers caring about PPC issues.
Re:is it faster? (Score:2, Informative)
"The apt-get tool is powerful, but the interface and output is terrible [...] Want to install software?
yum install packagename"
aptitude install packagename
"Remove software?
yum remove packagename"
aptitude remove packagename
"Want to find a package?
yum search keyword
aptitude search keyword
"With the apt-get family of tools, most of the commands are short and.or cryptic."
Yeah, sure they are.