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Agora Android Phone Delayed By Glitches 84

An anonymous reader points out this report at which says that "THE first Australian 'Google phone' set to go on sale within weeks has been delayed indefinitely, with the manufacturer Kogan forced to refund early buyers. In a statement released this afternoon, the company said the delay was 'due to future interoperability issues.'The Agora reached a very late stage of development, manufacturing had commenced and we were within days of shipping the product to customers,' company founder Ruslan Kogan said in a statement."
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Agora Android Phone Delayed By Glitches

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  • Real Story? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Idiomatick ( 976696 ) on Friday January 16, 2009 @08:51AM (#26480723)

    What's the real story? Nobody goes into production without atleast you know having 1 prototype... They could have tried it first... It like a pretty serious obvious issue if it causes indefinite delays...

  • Re:Real Story? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 16, 2009 @09:04AM (#26480777)

    something is the matter. The original design of the phone was OK'd for production and no one ever took a look at what everyone else's minimum screen size/resolution or checked the spec sheet for max supported resolution? Engineers should never have overlooked something so obvious. This smells like fiasco to me. If it was an "honest" mistake, I really hope no one is dumb enough to buy one.. A company that fucked up will certainly not be responsible with my money.

  • by Aladrin ( 926209 ) on Friday January 16, 2009 @09:04AM (#26480781)

    Why don't you believe it? I see 2 different ways this could happen:

    1) Someone finds a few apps that don't work at low res at all... Good apps like Google Earth or something.

    2) The programmers assure him that it can be handled right up until the end, when they are forced to admit they can't do it after all because they finally found the fatal flaw in the plan.

    As a programmer, I've had both things happen to me during a project. The first is just oversight and the second is usually due to some asinine quirk in the API that can't be worked around.

  • Re:Damn it! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by aliquis ( 678370 ) <> on Friday January 16, 2009 @09:35AM (#26480969) Homepage

    I don't think 400 dollar is that cheap, with shipping and Swedish VAT it will become a quite normal price for a decent phone over here, not at all unreasonable.

    Cheaper than a phone and 24 months subscription cost for a huge volume subscription? Yes, but not very cheap for the hardware in question.

  • by Lord Byron II ( 671689 ) on Friday January 16, 2009 @09:45AM (#26481055)

    Release it and then just patch it repeatedly for months on end, fixing some things and breaking others in the process. Eventually, say the phone is past the end-of-life and instead of fixing anything, suggest that your customers buy your newest phone.

    This seems to work for most other businesses.

  • by itsdapead ( 734413 ) on Friday January 16, 2009 @10:00AM (#26481145)

    The programmers assure him that it can be handled right up until the end, when they are forced to admit they can't do it after all because they finally found the fatal flaw in the plan.

    Or, alternatively, 3 days before shipping, the Pointy Haired Boss is finally forced to accept that the "political and economic realities" he's been trying to explain to the programmers for the last 3 months really are less important than those silly, geeky "laws of physics" which the programmers keep babbling about, and that all the unpaid overtime in the world won't produce a software patch that puts more pixels on the LCD.

  • by recharged95 ( 782975 ) on Friday January 16, 2009 @02:20PM (#26484675) Journal
    This will kill Kogan's company.


    He brings back the old x86 days when off-brand companies like his tout 'cold fusion' and deliver vaporware.


    Really a total disservice to the F/OSS community. I was worried about Koolu, but because they published their modifed stack and distro it showed commitment and was acceptable for them to be late to delivery (and they still are late though after promising a Dec release date). Kogan has done no such thing, just demo-ing a phone mockup at trade shows...


    Kogan, having a closed demo strategy (no beta testers?), holding to all the press releases, tech details and tooling around with a single phone that for all I know was showing a flash app is asking for some major b*tchslapping from the community. And now abrupt about the details of shutting down production & refunds, providing zero details is an insult to the Android community. If Google was involved and led to a legal issue, okay, mentioned it at least, but if it was technical, the community deserves to know the details.

    This is not good for the Android community and [we] sure better find out why production was stopped. Was this:

    • A h/w technical issue? (resolution problem? okay, postpone final and release a handful in beta! This is where the F/OSS community can help...)
    • A software issue? (releasing it with RC28?, or some huge bug?, okay, publish YOUR Android portion of your stack and we'll [the community] will fix it! F/OSS is all about helping or at least free advice)
    • A design issue? (you guys forked the Android stack?--big no no at this time).
    • A legal issue? (hackibility, Google, MS)?
    • A F/OSS issue? (not following the license)
    • Lying about features? (ok, now you screwed up!)
    • Vaporware that would damage the Android brand?
  • by AmberBlackCat ( 829689 ) on Friday January 16, 2009 @08:49PM (#26491695)
    Regardless of whose fault it is, they did one thing right that no American company or Sony would ever do. That is, after they realized their product wasn't ready, they actually went back to the drawing board instead of shipping the thing anyway.

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