Fedora 9 (Sulphur) Released 218
BrianGKUAC writes "Fedora 9 has been released as of 10 AM Eastern Time this morning. Release notes can be found here. Some of the more interesting new features include a new package management system, which can be used as an alternative to pup and pirut, known as PackageKit. This release also includes GNOME 2.22 and/or KDE 4.0.3, and Firefox 3 beta 5. Overall, there are a lot of improvements worth looking at, and the Bittorrent seeds are already feeding the release fairly effectively."
PackageKit (Score:5, Informative)
See PackageKit site [packagekit.org] of the release notes [fedoraproject.org].
PackageKit does not replace yum (Score:5, Informative)
Konsole disimproving? (Score:5, Informative)
that the new Konsole - has less features!
The buttons for quickly closing/opening a tab are gone. Right-clicking on tabs is gone. The ability to send input to all tabs
is completely gone, not even accessible through menus.
These are features I use every day while working on servers. KDE4 adds a lot of eyecandy (and a Vista-style 'start menu' - ick),
but why remove useful functionality?
Re:Beta software in a production release? (Score:5, Informative)
Beta XORG as well (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Hope my issues with Fedora are solved (Score:1, Informative)
What I did the SECOND time is, I threw away the Samsung disk and went into the printer management tool. I added a new printer, but instead of a 2510, I used one of the older ones; a 2250, I think. That worked perfectly, and I was able to use the printer without further incident.
This one is Samsung's fault, not Fedora's. Be fair.
Re:Hope my issues with Fedora are solved (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Hope my issues with Fedora are solved (Score:1, Informative)
also, do an lsusb to ensure the printer appears
Re:PackageKit (Score:5, Informative)
Depends on your definition of yum I guess. It does/can replace yum, the command-line tool, but does not replace the yum database. The wording is misleading though.
Re:Konsole disimproving? (Score:5, Informative)
but why remove useful functionality?
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Regards
Re:Beta XORG as well (Score:2, Informative)
and download the 173.08 with experimental support for xorg-server 1.4.99.901
Will not install on Samsung hard disks (Score:5, Informative)
If your hard disk has a "/" character in its model name as reported through the ATA interface then Anaconda will fail. The Python error message reads like "ends with '/' and is not just '/'" and the kernel halts.
I have a very standard desktop Dell Optiplex that has one of these hard disks, model number "SAMSUNG HD080HJ/P".
The "/" character kills the installation.
So disappointing yet so simple to have fixed before release.
Re:Beta XORG as well (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Hope my issues with Fedora are solved (Score:3, Informative)
I bought myself a second hand Samsung ML-2510 printer that Samsung touted as "supported" under some Linux kernel version and later.
http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Samsung-ML-2510_parallel_with_Samsung_PPD [openprinting.org]
http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Samsung-ML-2510 [openprinting.org]
There seems to be some workaround though, so it should work.
Anyway, http://www.openprinting.org/ [openprinting.org] is a good place to start regarding printing support.
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Re:Beta XORG as well (Score:3, Informative)
Sorry but those have been available for a month now and for the most part they don't do much. If you follow those instructions you'll just get a Nvidia 2D driver. The Livna packagers have not pushed the Nvidia driver out of the development repository also.
Basically Nvidia Accelerated 3D will have to wait (compiz,etc.).
Re:Firefox 3 BETA ? (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Konsole disimproving? (Score:5, Informative)
> The buttons for quickly closing/opening a tab are gone.
Konsole in KDE 4.0 is orientated more around keyboard shortcuts - which I think makes sense in a terminal. (Ctrl+Shift+N creates a new tab, Ctrl+Shift+W closes the current one, although I would recommend using the normal Ctrl+D combination to exit the shell)
Enough people complained (via bugs.kde.org) that I added the 'New Tab' button back in as an option in KDE 4.1. Plus there are Firefox-esqueue close buttons on tabs and support for re-arranging tabs by drag and drop or moving tabs between windows.
> The ability to send input to all tabs is completely gone
It didn't work at the time of the 4.0 release so it got cut. It has been reimplemented in KDE 4.1 with more flexibility in response to various RFE bug reports:
http://commit-digest.org/issues/2008-04-13/files/konsole-copy-input-to.png [commit-digest.org]
It is not the case the Konsole in KDE 4.0 has 'less features' in total. The menus may look far emptier but there is actually not very much missing. In fact it has quite a few additions, mostly fulfilling a large backlog of feature requests in bugs.kde.org, which I think are very useful:
* The terminal setup UI was replaced with one which is simpler but also more flexible
* Split-view mode
* Incremental search
* Key binding editor
* Improved performance, especially scrolling in large windows
In any case, if you have a complaint then please report it at http://bugs.kde.org/ [kde.org] - I am much more likely to read about it there than on Slashdot. Plus it also allows users to vote on the issues most important to them which is helpful from my perspective trying to allocate the limited spare time I have.
Finally, as someone who followed KDE development discussion quite closely over the last two years, it is inaccurate to say that KDE is attempting to "copy" Windows Vista or is in some large measure "inspired" by it. The menu for example was originally developed by OpenSuSE for KDE 3 - a long time before Vista was released, based on openSuSE's own research. Evidence of this can be found in some notably different design decisions compared with Vista's menu. For example, both the Gnome SLED menu and KDE's "Kickoff" have a search facility but it is located at the top of the menu rather than the button because users couldn't find it when it was placed at the bottom.
I think the view that KDE is trying to "clone" Windows, if not trolling, boils down to the use of black on the bar at the bottom of the screen. I am not involved with that part of KDE but I understand that the look of it is quite likely to change somewhat for KDE 4.1.
Re:Now why did I ... (Score:1, Informative)
Sulphur story (Score:4, Informative)
The logic behind it is thus:
Some more suggestions
"sulphur"
"mayonaisse"
(like werewolves they react badly with silver)
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-December/msg01194.html [redhat.com]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Names [fedoraproject.org]
The other options were:
vote_count , name
62 , Sulphur
54 , Bathysphere
43 , Chupacabra
39 , Mayonnaise
32 , Dragicorn
29 , Woodwose
23 , Tourette
13 , Asperger
13 , Barmanou
10 , Chingachgook
6 , Kingsport Town
5 , Marfan
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-January/msg00012.html
Re:Beta software in a production release? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Will not install on Samsung hard disks (Score:2, Informative)
As for the status of the fix, I don't know.
And the alternative is? (Score:3, Informative)
The idea of Fedora is to push things along. If you are writing software or need the new features, yay!
If you are more happy with stability, CentOS is what you are looking for. Same stuff, but older and more stable.
Re:Does YouTube work? (Score:2, Informative)