CentOs 4.0 Released 48
fluor2 writes "The CentOS team is pleased to announce availability of CentOS 4.0. Major new features include the Linux 2.6 Kernel, SELinux, udev replacing the /dev system, Xorg, MySQL4, CyrusIMAPD, Gnome 2.8 and KDE 3.3. These improvements along with many more are detailed in the
release notes available online.
We read recently about
Red Hat & Centos On Name Usage, and the solution is now to link to
a Prominent North American Enterprise Linux Vendor
(PNAELV).
Go ahead and download CentOs from one of their mirrors."
Go ahead and download CentOs from one of their mirrors."
some explanation (Score:4, Insightful)
They take the source code for RHEL, build it, and put it on an ISO.
Sounds interesting, I imagine if I were to try and sell my bosses on a Linux system for work they'd want something like RHEL, and this is a way to get hold of it and try it without buying a license. you could get a full prototype going and not need to spend any money until you wanted a real copy with a support contract.
well.... (Score:2, Informative)
Whitebox is/was pretty popular, and CentOS looks to be a good product too. It's not quite the new fledling it seems you think. You should try it. It even works with regular RHEL/Fedora yum repositories.
Re:well.... (Score:3, Insightful)
I think I will try it, actually, it sounds very interesting.
Re:well.... (Score:2)
CentOS isnt a one man show - for starters - and the updates and community support actually exist.
Using CentOS or RHEL for that matter with a Fedora repository is one of the only definite ways to smash up your system....
Re:well.... (Score:2)
Incidentally, I have installed packages, in a previous server install, from a Fedora yum repo to Whitebox. It worked just fine.
Found it! (Score:2)
Re:well.... (Score:2)
This is what i do: keep yum and up2date pointed at standard centos mirrors. Install apt-get, point it to freshrpms, dag, newrpms, etc...
I use yum for my system updates, apt-get (with "sanitized" repository settings, no base/core/updates) for my extra packages like mplayer, flash, et al.
Works quite well actually.
Re:well.... (Score:2, Informative)
If you'd like to migrate from WBEL:
Migration from WBEL to Centos [centos.org]
Also check out Whiteboxlinux.net [whiteboxlinux.net] you'll see that the site maintainer was growing frustrated with lack of updates to Whitebox, and switched over to Centos.
The projects were started about the same time.
There are also other competing projects Taolinux, Rocks, XOS, etc...
Re:some explanation (Score:1, Informative)
http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel/eval/
Re:some explanation (Score:3, Funny)
How similar is it? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:How similar is it? (Score:4, Informative)
"CentOS is an Enterprise-class Linux Distribution derived from sources freely provided to the public by a prominent North American Enterprise Linux vendor. CentOS conforms fully with the upstream vendors redistribution policy and aims to be 100% binary compatible. (CentOS mainly changes packages to remove upstream vendor branding and artwork.) CentOS is free, however, we ask for a small contribution. CentOS is a project of the cAos Foundation."
So it apears the only changes made are to remove brandings. So i would imagine it would run in a near identical fashion to RHEL
http://www.centos.org.nyud.net:8090/ [nyud.net]
all the info is on the main page(coral cach just incase) , i cant tell you definantly if they achive this goal , but I see very little reason as to why they shouldnt , unless redhat is not
opening all its sources , which is unlikly.
Re:How similar is it? (Score:5, Interesting)
I have run CentOS for about a year now on several hundred machines and it works great. The major caveat if you're used to Red Hat is you need to work out a different patch management system since RHN/up2date isn't there. But yum is built in, and works quite well.
I was the sole Linux guy at my last job and had no problem deploying and maintaining hundreds of CentOS boxes between Kickstart and yum.
And there is support. The free support is community based. But you can buy a real honest to goodness support contract with SLA's and everything.
Re:How similar is it? (Score:2)
Re:How similar is it? (Score:2)
Re:How similar is it? (Score:1)
This allows you to patch the systems, and even have a local repository without giving Red Hat an arm, a leg and your right lung.
More acronyms (Score:2, Funny)
What we need is a better acronym. So get your Super High Intensity Thinking (SHIT) ready. We need Creative Reasoning Applied to the Problem (CRAP).
Re:More acronyms (Score:2, Funny)
Re:More acronyms (Score:2)
Na-Lev, silent P.
Release Notes. Correct Link. (Score:2, Informative)
Torrents (Score:4, Informative)
for binary disks 1-4 [gatech.edu]
MOD PARENT UP (Score:2)
thanks kalak for the post
http://tinyurl.com/6vq2z/ [tinyurl.com]
Note for x86_64 users (Score:3, Informative)
You'll have to wait a bit for the new ISO's.
Re:Note for x86_64 users (Score:1)
Re:Note for x86_64 users (Score:1)
Other distros based on RHEL 4 (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Other distros based on RHEL 4 (Score:1)
It also is kind of sad, that there have to be a few projects to complete the same goal.
Piebox seems to be almost the same as CentOS. Why do we need this many? Are there really that many different ideas and viewpoints in trying to make a near exact copy of something?
MySQL 4.1 with PHP 4? (Score:2)
Re:MySQL 4.1 with PHP 4? (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:MySQL 4.1 with PHP 4? (Score:2, Informative)
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/old-client.ht
Re:MySQL 4.1 with PHP 4? (Score:2)
And unfortuantely, you didn't read the full article in which you linked to.
While the main issue is that the password ( which changing MySQL to use the old password encription type is a solution, it's a hack. I'd hope RH set thier MySQL build to do this by default ), you still lack the extra function calls the new library (mysqli [php.net]) has the the old one doesn't ( mainly to do with replication, but still handy nonetheless ).
For me, I'd rather sit on be with PHP 4/MySQL 4 or make the brave jump to PHP 5/MySQL 4
Some clarifications (Score:3, Informative)
They were basically all started independantly of each other.
Whitebox (being the only one I have really used extensively) is run out of Beauregard Parish Public Library [beau.org] by a a JMorris [slashdot.org]. He rules with a tyranical fist and has no desire to offer anything other than the bare minimum of changes needed to make the rebuild possible. Now I like this hard-line leadership, but it has caused some friction as to the timelyness of updates.
I did recently convert a machine that was Whitebox Linux to Tao Linux to verify that it could be done. I followed this basic procedure. With this basic procedure, picking one of the projects over another isn't that much of a life or death decision. It is relatively easy to move between this projects. [centos.org]
As far as I can tell (not having seen an actual RHEL box) both Whitebox and Tao are very accurate representations of RHEL. I have yet to see an instance where a package desigend for RHEL didn't work with Whitebox and Tao. I have installed Oracle, vmware, various rpm's that were packaged for RHEL without much troubles.
Re:Some clarifications (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Some clarifications (Score:2)
Just looked at those release notes (Score:1)
Re:Just looked at those release notes (Score:2)
go on try it - you know its good for you
the snake (Score:1)
legal agreemens (Score:2)
It looks to me like CentOS got a legal letter and instead of opening a dialogue they just capitulated right away. Why didn't they talk to the Red Hat lawyers and reach an agreement on name usage? From the letter [centos.org]:
"Red Hat does not authorize any person to use the RED HAT marks in association with such redistribution in any fashion, except by express
Re:legal agreements (Score:2)
Really? It looks like they spent a lot of time creating an immature web site about "a Prominent North American Enterprise Linux Vendor" and replacing occurances of Red Hat with that phrase rather than making an effort to find a resolution.
It
Re:legal agreemens (Score:2)
It's been mentioned on their mailing lists and message boards - check out the archives. Generally you need lawyers to talk to lawyers. They don't have money to hire lawyers. I don't have money to donate for lawyer fees. If you do then please approach the project leaders, I'm sure they would be willing to accept yo
Release Announcement : (Score:2)
http://lists.caosity.org/pipermail/centos-devel
CORRECTION Release Notes available at... (Score:1)
Not a big red hat fan right now (Score:2, Interesting)
Moreover, our client does not allow others to provide links to our client's web site without permission.
Is even RedHat going to take issue with linking from one site to another without express permission? That thing the web was made for? It's just stupid.
You're right, that sounds messed up (Score:1)
Beg your managers to donate. (Score:1)
It's not as easy as it sounds, but doesn't stop me from trying.