Commercial DVD Software Comes to Linux 416
timekillerj writes "Turbolinux launched a new version of it's Linux distribution today. The key feature is the first commercial DVD player, provided by Cyberlink. PowerDVD for Linux supports menu navigation, Dolby Digital sound, subtitles, and more."
Re:commercial? (Score:5, Informative)
It is not the first. (Score:5, Informative)
Yes...But... (Score:5, Informative)
Remember, just because you bought the DVD and bought the hardware to play it back with doesn't mean you are neccesarily allowed to choose what software you use to play it back!
Re:Mplayer? Xine (Score:1, Informative)
Or are you talking about somthing else?
BFD folks (Score:1, Informative)
Re:commercial? (Score:2, Informative)
Windows Media Player or Real Player can not play DVDs by default. But when you installed WinDVD the players WMP and RealOne can do.
Re:commercial? (Score:2, Informative)
Not for PowerDVD (Score:5, Informative)
It is like Acrobat Reader or Realplayer for Linux.
Re:Could DeCSS become legal? (Score:5, Informative)
To join the group, besides paying $$$, you have to agree to all sorts of rules about player operation like listening to the force play flag, macrovision, and region coding. Oh, and not disclosing some of the specifications (they're a trade secret).
Re:Yes...But... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:compare! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Ask and you shall receive? (Score:3, Informative)
Go out and buy the software, email the company that made it and everyone wins. I didnt care that the source was released for either game, I was happy with the fact that I could play them on my Linux box.
I like Xine but if PowerDVD comes out for general Distros and its good, (free preview), I will probably buy it. I bought the Boxed set 10+ from Mandrake even though I downloaded the Distro earlier just to show my support.
The only way to show support for companies that make Linux based products is to BUY them.
Later all.
lordarathres@gmail.com
Re:commercial? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:It is not the first. (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.linspire.com/lindows_dvd_info.php
Of course, odds are that they do have to have the source available for the GPL libdvdcss libraries that it uses, so does that mean that they are violating trade secrets as well? Or, I wonder if they rewrote portions of XINE to link against some commercial DVD libraries instead?
Re:commercial? (Score:1, Informative)
Not trying to start anything but PowerDVD is widely hailed as having the worst picture quality of any commercial software DVD player. At the AVS forums and pretty much every decent HTPC forum it goes something like Sonic's, Nvidia's, WinDVD, and PowerDVD way at the bottom. Just something to think about.
Re:compare! (Score:3, Informative)
From a legal perspective it doesn't matter. DeCSS has been ruled legal in Norway. If DeCSS is illegal in a non-free country like the US, then libdvdcss most likely is illegal in the US too.
Old News (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/08/18/dvd_pla
To my knowledge, they have never released it for end-users to buy/download.
However, in 2001 I purchased a ThinkPad T22 from IBM pre-loaded with Linux and it had PowerDVD installed. The software required some funky thinkpad driver to be installed or it could not playback. I long ago dumped that distribution (caldera) and now Xine/mplayer et al run just fine on the same thinkpad without any special drivers.
Re:Yes...But... (Score:3, Informative)
Full menu support, subtitle support. Alternate audio track support.
Also, what other player other than the built in one does the Xbox have?
Does it work on a 700Mhz celeron...don't know, do they even make those anymore other than for the Xbox? If so, why would you want to when there are better processors available that are just as cheap.
Anything else?
Re:commercial? (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Ask and you shall receive? (Score:5, Informative)
Sigh:
Re:Yes...But... (Score:3, Informative)
ln -s
so the software would find your DVD drive where it expects it to be by default).
Try oKle! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Why is it ... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Commercial Linux Software (Score:3, Informative)
But there are many things supported in Linux right now that I don't need to pay for. I've got much better support from Debian than I've got with several commerical software providers.
Re:Do I have to buy TurboLinux? (Score:4, Informative)
I disagree. The best DVD player for Windows (and Linux) is VLC [videolan.org]
It supports menus, surround sound (even DTS) and AFAIK all the other things PowerDVD does. But on top of that it is region free and allows you to skip the commercials and copyright warnings that PowerDVD forces you to watch :)
It's also free as in beer and speech.
Re:OS Requirements (Score:3, Informative)
MPlayer would usually drop frames when running DVDs on my PIII-450 so the CPU seems about right for reliably running a DVD perfectly, especially if you want to scale it. The hard drive space and memory seem a bit excessive, though.
Re:Which is a good deal... (Score:2, Informative)
Finally (Score:3, Informative)
Re:commercial? (Score:2, Informative)
It's not the software patent overloads as much as the DVD CCA and DMCA overlords.
DVD-Video uses MPEG-2 and Dolby Digital codecs, both of which are covered by U.S. patents and foreign counterparts. See also MPEG LA [mpegla.com].
Re:Which is a good deal... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:commercial? (Score:2, Informative)
Having just spoken to My Aunt The Lawyer, I can categorically say: your view of "stealing" is limited. There is also plain old theft. Think of shoplifting if you are confused.
For example, when you shoplift, you aren't using force (unless it's hard to jam that CD under your belt), and it's not fraud, but you are stealing. So, it's simple theft.
In the case of using commercial software which you did not pay for, well, there are laws against that, which are about as effective as dope laws, but, still, it is a crime.
Re:commercial? (Score:3, Informative)
This is not something I made up. I went into my government homepage on Digital Rights [www.kum.dk], and it clearly states: "You are allowed: to break codes and encryption of a DVD-movie, a music-cd or netradio in that extend, that it is necessary to see the movie or listen to the music in private. It is for example not illegal, that if you break the encryption on a DVD, if it is necessary to play the DVD on your private PC by help of an Linux Operating System". (Excuse me for the bad translation
Re:Finally (Score:3, Informative)
It was perfectly legal to reverse-engineer DeCSS for compability purposes, all charges against "dvd-jon" have been lifted. It doesn't become any less legal retroactively just because someone finally bothers to release an alternative n years later.
Using DeCSS may be illegal in US, and some other countries, but that's only because DMCA is insane, and prohibits owner of DVD from taking use of his fair use rights, and doesn't have anything at all to do with DeCSS itself.