Top 10 Linus Quotes on SCO 286
An anonymous reader noted LinuxWorld running an entertaining little Top Ten SCO-related "Linusisms. If you're new to the story, you might find these insightful... but you're reading this site on a sunday, so you probably will find them more amusing than informative.
TMI (Score:5, Funny)
and even though my (and other people's) DNA is probably all over Linux.
Ewwww! Gross! TMI, Linus!
Re:TMI (Score:5, Funny)
Ewwww! Gross! TMI, Linus!
I'm glad I never get invited to Linux parties with all this DNA exchange. Or maybe I would be if I thought the folk there exchanging the DNA would meet my standards for pulchitrude or gender (preferably both). Actually come to think I did get invited to the Linux geek cruise this year but had so much on I coldn't do it.
One wonders what a geek orgy would be like, the ancient greeks solved the gender ratio issue by hiring 'flute girls', I guess in the geek version you would have to log onto a porn site and watch them by cybercast. One wonders if philosophy undergrads would be more interesting if Socrates had not sent the flute girls away in 'The Symposium', or maybe nobody would have been in a state to write it up afterwards.
I suppose it would be acceptable to hire the flute girls via hotjobs or a web site specializing in that type of service if they existed.
Re:TMI (Score:5, Funny)
Hmmm, "geek orgy"... "flute girls"... suddenly I'm picturing Alyson Hannigan.
yo, the ancient greeks (Score:2, Informative)
Re:TMI (Score:5, Funny)
So, I know Latin and I'm on
Re:TMI (Score:2, Funny)
I forgot the 500-word vocabulary I had, except for like 5 words... oh well.
Re:TMI (Score:5, Funny)
The most wonderful thing about having taken latin is that almost no one speaks it, so you can just make it up as you go, and it still sounds way cool. Add in some hand gestures, and it looks like your summoning beasts the the lower planes of hell. Great trick at parties... until you actually do summon one...
Re:TMI (Score:2)
Wait... Parties?! You're not one of us!
Re:TMI (Score:2)
Re:TMI (Score:2, Funny)
Re:TMI (Score:4, Insightful)
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
Quid = what (or some form of question) - repeated for emphasis, so may be translated as "whatever"
latine - latin word for latin, the language.
dictum - said (past tense of to say).
sit - is? I think so.
Altum - profound, stately
viditur - sounds, is heard as
"Whatever said in latin sounds profound"
~Will
(sorry for any translation mistakes, I do ancient greek, not latin, corrections welcome).
Re:TMI (Score:2)
Re:TMI (Score:5, Funny)
Translation:
I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.
Re:TMI (Score:4, Funny)
Macdonaldus Senex fundum habuit. E-I-E-I-O. Et in hot fundo nonnullas boves domesticas habuitt. E-I-E-O. Cum moo moo hic, et cum moo moo ibi. Hic una moo, ibi una moo, ubique una moo moo. Macdonaldus Senex fundum habuit. E-I-E-I-O
I'm sure you don't have to know a lot of latin to figure this one out.
Re:TMI (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:TMI (Score:3, Funny)
I don't speak one bit of Latin, but even I know that one.
Re:TMI (Score:5, Funny)
It is the scientific term. The units of pulchitrude are the Helen. One Helen being a face that launches a thousand ships, a milli Helen being a face that launches only one ship, a micro Helen is a face that launches a small proportion of a canoe.
Re:TMI (Score:3, Funny)
Re:TMI (Score:4, Funny)
Jerry!! Jerry!! Jerry!! Jerry!! (Score:5, Funny)
My wife and I watch Jerry Springer, and just the other day I said it reminded me of SCO. Coincidence? I think not.
Re:Jerry!! Jerry!! Jerry!! Jerry!! (Score:5, Funny)
Interns? (Score:2)
Re:Jerry!! Jerry!! Jerry!! Jerry!! (Score:2)
Re:Jerry!! Jerry!! Jerry!! Jerry!! (Score:2, Funny)
> Not quite the same. A Jerry Springer show does have things in it that people are willing to pay to see: Nudity, girl on girl action, etc.
Bah! Have you seen some of the women on Springer? Makes IBM's legal team not look so bad. Hell, makes that mysterious hole on your neighbors fence look not so bad...
Webcast of court proceedings (Score:2)
Re:Webcast of court proceedings (Score:3, Funny)
The thought of this issue at trial makes me think of Monty Python's "How to Defend Yourself Against a Banana". (if you'll excuse the complete mangling of the original).
The Romans did it this way. (Score:2)
Greco-Roman Wrestling!
Re:Jerry!! Jerry!! Jerry!! Jerry!! (Score:2)
Jer-ry!! Jer-ry!! Jer-ry!! Jer-ry!!
So not only am I reading Slashdot on a Sunday, I've watched too much Springer. Ick.
11th Quote (Score:5, Funny)
Linus' 11th Quote:
"Who was smoking crack when they put my Top Ten SCO Barbs on a web server running SCO? Two comments and its already slashdotted!"
Re:11th Quote (Score:4, Informative)
Kevin Mack's Top 10 Linus SCO quotes (in reverse order):
[thanks to Dee-Ann LeBlanc [sys-con.com] for the link.]
10. Not About IP [zdnet.co.uk]"None of the SCO accusations have anything to do with IP rights; they're all about contracts between IBM and SCO. All the IP rights blathering by SCO was just that -- blathering"
9. Custody Battle [nytimes.com]"SCO is claiming parenthood of that child and now wants to make money off the earnings of that child. Even though SCO has refused to undergo the technical equivalent of DNA testing, and even though my (and other people's) DNA is probably all over Linux."
8. Lottery [infoworld.com]
"we have to sadly decline taking business model advice from a company that seems to have squandered all its money (that it made off a Linux IPO, I might add, since there's a nice bit of irony there), and now seems to play the US legal system as a lottery."
7. Copyright Law [groklaw.net]"So . . . when he attacks the GPL as being somehow against 'financial gain', that notion that the GPL has of 'exchange of receipt of copyrighted works' is actually EXPLICITLY ENCODED in the US copyright law. It's not just a crazy idea that some lefty commie hippie dreamed up in a drug-induced stupor."
6. Raelians [crn.com]
"SCO is playing it like the Raelians [the organization backed by Clonaid's founder, known as Rael], saying, 'We'll show you proof in a few weeks, through an expert panel that we trust.' Let's see if there is any baby or not."
5. Jerry Springer [computerworld.com]"Quite frankly, I found it mostly interesting in a Jerry Springer kind of way. White trash battling it out in public, throwing chairs at each other. SCO crying about IBM's other women. ... Fairly entertaining"
4. Stealing Cars In Bright Daylight [bayarea.com]
"Do you steal a car in the bright daylight with a lot of people around? Or do you steal a car, go for a joyride at 4 am in the morning when there aren't a lot of people around. With open source, there is a lot of daylight. A lot of people looking at the code. You don't really go around and steal things."
3. Constitution and Marriage [infoworld.com]"If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution"
2. Smoking [eweek.com]"They are smoking crack."
And number one, according to Mack...
1. Please Grow Up [linuxworld.com]"we find your references to a negotiating table somewhat confusing, since there doesn't seem to be anything to negotiate about. SCO has yet to show any infringing IP in the Open Source domain, but we wait with bated breath for when you will actually care to inform us about what you are blathering about."
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More Linux quotes (Score:2, Informative)
I'm Going To Write A Darl McBride Emulator (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I'm Going To Write A Darl McBride Emulator (Score:5, Funny)
Comment removed (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I'm Going To Write A Darl McBride Emulator (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I'm Going To Write A Darl McBride Emulator (Score:2)
if linuxcode:
litigate()
I shouldn't have to point this out (Score:3, Informative)
I shouldn't have to point this out (we're all programmers, right?), but = is assignment of variable, while == is test.
So in the code segment: $linuxcode is assigned to $scocode, and litigate() will always be called whether the two were equal or not. Also, the code above shows that SCO themselves distributed Linux.
Re:I'm Going To Write A Darl McBride Emulator (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I'm Going To Write A Darl McBride Emulator (Score:5, Funny)
(besides - they already have such a script triggered by a drop in SCOX)
Re:I'm Going To Write A Darl McBride Emulator (Score:5, Funny)
10 PRINT "MINE!"
20 GOTO 10
Come to think of it, Darl had a part in Finding Nemo, didn't he? I think he played a some sort of bird.
Re:I'm Going To Write A Darl McBride Emulator (Score:5, Funny)
Darl and Disney (Score:2)
Heck, throw in Microsoft Minesweeper (tm), we could have a three way battle where there is no confusion about having to choose one to root for. Just let them battle.
Are you saying... (Score:5, Funny)
Not quite (Score:2)
Re:Are you saying... (Score:3, Funny)
Another reason to like Linux... (Score:4, Insightful)
I was watching that video someone took in the stands of Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer doing that Matrix spoof, and the people gigglechuckling like idiots as that unimaginative crap unfolded. It's hard not to take as a guilty pleasure that we can hold our software's creator to a higher standard of comedy, in addition to software quality, pricing options, etc.
Re:Another reason to like Linux... (Score:5, Insightful)
However he certainly doesn't have the corporate image to upkeep like Gates, Ballmer, McBride, whoever. He's just like a normal guy I might hang out with for a while.
The fact he's STILL like that is why I think he's pretty neat.
Re:Another reason to like Linux... (Score:2, Insightful)
Yeah, most people are expected to shed their personality and their idealism after a certain point, hence the saying: "never trust anyone over 30."
People who don't "sell out" are often called man-children, or homeless, (or democrats :)
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I especially like quote #3 (Score:3, Interesting)
Didn't someone post a link to a T-shirt with quote #3 on it on GrokLaw?
Hollywood (Score:5, Funny)
AHA! So you ADMIT that US copyright law was dreamed up by commies in drug-induced stupors (a.k.a. Hollywood/MPAA).
Please grow up (Score:4, Interesting)
That's one of my favorite quotes.
I'm pretty sure McBride saw it coming from everybody else except Linus.
what Linus may not understand... (Score:5, Insightful)
Pretty fucking pathetic when you sit back and read the garbage SCO has spewed, and also very sad that it's coming from people who have far more money than most of us will ever have.
Ironic that the U.S. legal system that was founded on principles of personal responsibility now rewards immaturity and greed.
US and Personal Responsibility... (Score:3, Insightful)
That is the chance you take when you value freedom over Iron-fisted government rule. You have to watch out for creeping bureaucracy. There are provisions to reset the whole mess, I just hope we can limp along for a few more decades before we have to remove all of the scum from power and start over.
The opposite of democracy is bureaucracy.
Re:US and Personal Responsibility... (Score:4, Interesting)
not quite. if we valued "freedom", then we wouldn't ahve all sorts of things like min. wage laws, mandatory health benefits, anti-discrimination laws, welfare, soc. security, etc. in fact, we wouldn't have the legal lottery system that we have now. our system (legal) is the exact opposite of a "free" one. de Tocquville said (paraphrasing here) that the republic will be over when the people discover they can vote themselves money. the problem is that we as a society don't value freedom enough. we are more than willing to have government at all levels do those things that they have no business doing. this is a pattern on both thte right, but even more the left. since
Re:US and Personal Responsibility... (Score:3, Insightful)
> all sorts of things like min. wage laws,
> mandatory health benefits, anti-discrimination
> laws, welfare, soc. security, etc.
The invisible hand can be cruel.
There is an accelleration factor involved. Those with money have the capital to make more money and take advantage of opportunities. This factor multiplies - the more money they have... the more money they can make. Money equals power as much as information does - information is merely ano
Re:US and Personal Responsibility... (Score:2)
Just curious: Why would anybody hope that? Shouldn't we be hoping for the immediate removal of scum in power?
Re:US and Personal Responsibility... (Score:4, Insightful)
Pushing the Reset Button on a government takes thought, planning and time.
Nothing to undertake lightly especially when there are ways to correct abuses built in to the present system.
Re:what Linus may not understand... (Score:2)
On that note... (Score:5, Funny)
SCO at this point is like a ordering a pizza. Except, when the delivery guy gets to your door, he's forgotten the pizza, the 2-liter, the breadsticks, and the ticket. Instead of going back for the stuff though, he keeps banging on your door, threatening to call the cops if you don't pay up now. And he wants a tip. Or he is sooo keying your car. Watch him. He'll do it, damn it. He's crazy like that. Crazy baby. He'll do it man. He means it this time.........craaaaaaazy.......
Re:On that note... (Score:5, Funny)
They must watch a lot of Letterman. (Score:5, Funny)
2."They are smoking crack."
Re:They must watch a lot of Letterman. (Score:2, Interesting)
Which brings me to my next point:
"Don't smoke crack"
My favorite part of the article... (Score:5, Funny)
The guy standing there with his arms crossed just looks pissed.
(His Internal Monologe: "Those SOBs think I want Windows in my datacenter? Fuckers. I will Bablefish all their Word files to German...")
Re:My favorite part of the article... (Score:5, Funny)
UNIX Expertise [horseflop.com]
UNIX Skillz [horseflop.com]
20 years [horseflop.com]
And I like this one because the guy looks cornered and doesn't know what to do:
Make it happen [horseflop.com]
Re:My favorite part of the article... (Score:3, Insightful)
I think that more than trying to sell this particular software product, Microsoft is trying to sow seeds of job insecurity doubts into the brains of the target audien
Re:My favorite part of the article... (Score:5, Funny)
Actually, my favorite subliminal messages are the TV spots run by MS with everyone dancing and celebrating because they just consolidated a bunch of servers and it's going to "save them millions each year".
The only way they're saving money each year is because their new setup doesn't require as many admins as their previous set up. So those people are dancing because they're all fired.
demigod (Score:5, Insightful)
Any company that attempts to hijack an entire open operating system as its own deserves whatever punishments and/or mockery Linus and legislation can dole out.
Re:demigod (Score:2)
But it would be interesting to ask him how many of those quotes from him have actually been original, and how many he got from other people.
Not that this should diminish our respect for his sense of humor, of course. As the leader of the Open Source gang, you'd expect him to use other people's jokes. But when asked, he should tell you where he found the ones that he didn't think up himself.
We should also consider whether some can be improved. Thus the "marr
Reminds me of Python skit (Score:3, Funny)
Contest winners for SCO slur contest:
3. SCUM
2. SCrOtum
and the winner is ...
1. Miserable fat SCO bastards!!!
Springer (Score:4, Funny)
Jerry Springer!
Let's see - Darl can sue for defamation for being compared to Springer. Springer can sue for being compared to Darl. Both can then sue each other for the comments each made over the first suit. None of the lawsuits will be worth a hill of beans, but that's no guarentee these days. Even if they don't, both could try to milk it for publicity a dozen other ways. (Can't you just see Jerry inviting Linus and Darl to appear together on his show? With a "supprise guest" claiming to be Darl's love-child/Linus's Stripper Ex-girlfriend?)
In legal matters, it's a good rule: Don't mention Jerry Springer, Rosanne Barr, Rush Limbaugh, Carmen Electra, Kato or Don Imus if they are not already involved.
Number 7 (Score:5, Funny)
"So . . . when he attacks the GPL as being somehow against 'financial gain', that notion that the GPL has of 'exchange of receipt of copyrighted works' is actually EXPLICITLY ENCODED in the US copyright law. It's not just a crazy idea that some lefty commie hippie dreamed up in a drug-induced stupor."
That's exactly the sort of logic some drugged up leftist commie-hippy would use!A Couple of Guys Ref (Score:2)
Here is to a midly amusing SCO story instead of the crapola it usally is (much like playing Rouge Leader and finding out that there ARE good Star Wars games)
My choice for No. 1 would be (Score:2, Funny)
"If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution"
In all fairness... (Score:5, Insightful)
With open source, lots of people are looking at the code. If there's a bug, people will find it (well, that's the theory, at least).
I'm not convinced that lots of people are looking at where the code came from. To take FreeBSD Update as an example, I've engaged in lots of lengthy discussions about technical issues, but nobody has ever asked "did you write this code yourself?"
Re:In all fairness... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:In all fairness... (Score:3, Insightful)
Things do get noticed. The original author most likely is going to find out eventually, and then your reputation is on the line.
I don't expect to stay in my current job, or with my current employer, until I retire (winning the lottery nonwithstanding).
I probably wouldn't want to work for a company where the hiring manager would not be Googling my name for references, especially since I have listed minor contributions to FreeBSD in my resume. So
Depends on where they take it from... (Score:4, Insightful)
If they take it from one public codebase (e.g. Linux to *BSD, it'd get noticed if it was on a large scale, or a rip-off of a specific functionality. If it comes from source code you have access to through work, escrow agreements, stolen code (e.g. Doom 3) and similar, well who else could check? Only other people with the source.
Unless you have reason to believe otherwise, you mostly need to trust that people have the rights to the code they show. If I gave you a book/song/video clip I said I made, you'd normally trust that too, wouldn't you? But not if I came with an entire Hollywood production, then you'd ask questions. Same with code too, if someone "dropped" large amounts of code into a codebase, questions would get asked.
Kjella
What's wrong with lefty commie hippies? (Score:5, Funny)
Speaking as a born-in-the-1960s leftie commie hippy, who has done some of his best coding in a drug-induced stupor, I must strenuously object to this slur. C'mon, Linus, just because you moved from Helsinki to Los Angeles, you don't have to let go of *all* your Euro-libertarian ideals. :-) )
(I seem to remember reading -- on one of your very own web pages -- that the original Linux kernel was fueled by quite a bit of beer, right? So let's not diss altered states of consciousness too quickly.
D'oh, where did I leave my asbestos underwear?!?
Re:What's wrong with lefty commie hippies? (Score:5, Funny)
Linux Quotes (Score:3, Informative)
Good Article!
Re:Linux Quotes (Score:4, Interesting)
What about.... (Score:2, Funny)
Definetly my favourite Linus quote
Wow, that was close... (Score:3, Funny)
But now that I got my dose fo SCO I'm ok.
Child? (Score:3, Funny)
Is Linux a child or a prostitute?
I guess the code really has matured and open source is taking on a whole new meaning.
I confess... (Score:4, Funny)
"SCO is claiming parenthood of that child and now wants to make money off the earnings of that child. Even though SCO has refused to undergo the technical equivalent of DNA testing, and even though my (and other people's) DNA is probably all over Linux."
Yeah, I have to admit, I got a little excited when my Suse 9 professional DVD's arrived in the mail. I just couldn't help it.
Now, can someone help me find my razor? I can't seem to see all of a sudden and it's time to shave my palms again..
Chewbacca has got nothing on the top 10! (Score:2)
then the IBM suits will trot out our Hero in Shining Armor's
Top 10 SCO Barbs and totally destroy the Chebacca defense.
It will be a bloodbath.
I say that they allow camera's in the court room, this will be entertainment on a stellar scale.
Get on message, people (Score:5, Informative)
Focus on SCO's theft of the work of thousands of people. Use words like "theft", and "stolen". Keep mentioning that SCO did not write Linux and has only the limited rights to it given them by the General Public License. Those rights don't include converting it to a proprietary product.
What SCO is doing used to be called "conversion" in law, but is now just called theft. Conversion is the "unauthorized exercise of dominion, by one person over the property of another, in a manner inconsistent with his rights of possession." Borrowing or renting something and then reselling it is conversion.
Re:Get on message, people (Score:3, Insightful)
No, no, no. This sort of deliberate misstatement is entirely inappropriate, and /.ers are regularly up in arms over it when the RIAA/MPAA do it. (For example, when they describe the use of Kazaa as theft.) "Theft" is a te
Missing from the list (Score:5, Funny)
I am surprised the list did not contain the quote from Linus "I allege that SCO is full of it" [eweek.com]
Right triumps over wrong? (Score:2)
Even though IBM is a formidible presence with plenty of resources, there are a lot of very influential, resource-rich companies whose future may depend upon the outcome of this case leaning to SCO in one form or another. Don't think we won't see a lot more counter-momentum from the Microsofts and Oracles wai
Dammit (Score:3, Funny)
Another good quote (Score:5, Interesting)
Source: Wired [wired.com]
The lefty commie hippie in a drug-induced stupor (Score:4, Informative)
In other words, it was in the law before RMS thought about it.
I take great offfensive to #9 (Score:5, Funny)
in the same league as my other crack smoking colleagues.
We may be high, but we still have standards.
Re:Linus' successor (Score:3, Informative)
pretend:
4. To intend; to design; to plot; to attempt. [Obs.]
it is an old, but correct usage of the term.
think "pretender to the crown."
Re:Linus' successor (Score:2, Insightful)
At least Marcello has the excuse that he's not a native English speaker. I guess you could say the same thing about Bush, though; he speaks Texan. It's interesting, though, that Linus is so much more articulate than Darl McBride even though English must be at least his third language (after Swedish and Finnish).
Re:Linus' successor (Score:2)
And w.r.t. languages, you're forgetting C and assembly
Re:Linus' successor (Score:4, Interesting)
Thats one hell of an assumption. Mexico and Canada are right next to the US, but most Americans don't speak Spanish or French. I understand someone who is German understanding some Flemish (Belgium) but there are more than a few languages spoken in Russia alone.
Thats kinda like how everyone assumes that in Brazil, they speak spanish, because most of the countries around them speak spanish. But they don't. And while there are SOME similarities in Portugese and Spanish, I can assure you that most of my Portugese speaking friends don't speak Spanish.
Oh yea, and Russia is right next to the USA, as well. Parts of Russia are actually just NORTH of parts of Alaska. But I don't speak any Russian dialects.
Obligatory Simpson Quote: Spanish and Italian are the same language. (Mr. X episode).
Re:Linus' successor (Score:3, Insightful)
Thats one hell of an assumption. Mexico and Canada are right next to the US, but most Americans don't speak Spanish or French. I understand someone who is German understanding some Flemish (Belgium) but there are more than a few languages spoken in Russia alone
How many people in El Paso or San Diego speak Spanish? The USA is a large country, so you have to compare the right areas.
My wish (Score:2)