Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of Penguin Computers 179
Pii writes "News.com is running a story about Penguin Computing acquiring Scyld Computing, a company founded by Donald Becker, of linux ethernet driver and Beowulf cluster fame. Becker will stay on as Penguin's Chief Technology Officer, and the companies claim they don't expect any layoffs as a result of the merger."
Beowulf cluster (Score:4, Funny)
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Freedom to swallow whatever is rammed down our throats? Amen to that!
No, I'm not a coward.
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This is
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I was so excited to be submitting a story involving a Beowulf cluster, that I didn't think the concluding statement through...
It should have read:
A pox on me for not having had the discipline to execute this story correctly.Re:Beowulf cluster (Score:5, Funny)
I'm just glad the cluster isn't in Soviet Russia.
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"Can you imagine just ONE of these?!?"
Wait a second!! (Score:1)
Image a Beowulf cluster of Beowulf clusters!!
Is that even possible by definition?
Re:Wait a second!! (Score:1)
Now a mixture of clustering technologies, say a beowulf of mosix clusters, and things begin to get intriguing ;3.
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(And if that gets through the lameness filter, I will personally eat your hat. 5 times to ensure redundancies)
Good. (Score:4, Insightful)
It's always the cheapskates who complain. (Score:5, Insightful)
Becker has spent a LOT of his time adding Linux support for poorly documented, mis-configured, total crap hardware - and you cheap assholes complain. You should read the kernel newsgroup archives - some developers suggested a few years back that they dump RTL81XX entirely because the firmware sucked so bad. You whiners should be thanking Scyld for their work.
Or maybe buy a decent NIC instead.
Re:It's always the cheapskates who complain. (Score:2, Insightful)
i will say this though - the sis900 driver (and firware), written by the boys at sis, sucks far more ass than any of becker's drivers.
at least becker's can autoneg reasonably well.
the problem is that my company likes the $0.25US/per onboard price on an rtl8139c...
Re:It's always the cheapskates who complain. (Score:2)
Collisions is not caused by driver problems. The way ethernet was designed simply means collisions cannot be avoided. The work done to limit the amount of collisions as much as possible is best done in hardware. If anybody was stupid enough to make hardware requiring those features to be in the driver, the hardware designers are to blame, not the driver designers.
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Re:Good. (Score:3, Interesting)
Far more often than not, they've performed flawlessly, and I have Don Becker to thank for it. If you use Ethernet on Linux, you're either using a driver developed by Mr. Becker almost entirely on his own, or you're using a driver kludged together by someone else that is almost
Layoffs... (Score:2, Funny)
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However, they are very concerned about the announced 10% in staff reduction.
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In fact this gets me thinking: thousands of people (or more?) have registered domains for personal use (joe-bloggs.net etc.), to post info about themself and to provide an email address that will never change. Why not have a TLD for this purpose? (eg
Anyone actually use a beowolf cluster? (Score:4, Interesting)
--D
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Yep... (Score:5, Interesting)
What takes hours on this system could take weeks on a "super-powerful single machine".
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Or, they could use the cluster to get accurate Stats.
Re:Anyone actually use a beowolf cluster? (Score:5, Interesting)
To ask that question is to miss the beauty that is beowolf.
Few things (anything?) that can be done on a beowolf can't be done on a single multiprocessor machine. But if your problem is well suited to a beowolf approach, it's often much cheaper.
Re:Anyone actually use a beowolf cluster? (Score:2, Interesting)
Here [usask.ca] it is, and if you browse around the page, you can see a few details on it.
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Yeah, it's called affordability.
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The point you're missing is that a beowulf class supercomputer is -MUCH- cheaper to put together than some "super-powerful" single machine (forgetting that most of the -really- big machines are themselves clusters of a sort).
Money played (and plays) a rather large role in the whole COTS supercomputing arena
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Yes. (Score:5, Insightful)
The reason we use the beowulfs is because the problems are such that they're easy to break up into chunks. Consider the "system" (in our case) to be a cube with stuff inside that we want to process. We can break the cube up into smaller cubes and process those chunks, and then reassemble (must like is done with folding@home, seti@home, and the like).
The difference? Well, instead of a program taking a day to run, it will take a few hours. Instead of taking a week, it may take a day.
Sometimes a problem doesn't require a Beowulf. If you require several simulations, and the total CPU time amounts to 1 month...then you'd do just as well running the simulations on nodes and just waiting a month. If you REALLY want to know what's happening with a certain set of conditions, it's often times very useful to use the cluster to find out in a matter of hours.
Mike.
Re:Yes. (Score:4, Interesting)
Yes, Linux is a huge help -- one reason that it is (and not the primary reason) is that it is free (or at least low cost). With the budget cuts that the state of TN (and I gather many others) have been facing, Linux is even more useful as we can get new nodes/whatever for our research while keeping costs low (as opposed to using an OS like Solaris which costs $$$). We can grab a bunch of parts off of the shelf and build a node for a few hundred dollars... instead of paying $2,000 for a high performance UNIX/Linux/whatever workstation.
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Solaris used to be pretty much free; Sun have been incrementally ratcheting down the threshold for charging in the last few years.
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Just curious (in a serious way), is anybody actually using a beowolf cluster for anything important?
Yes, I'm using one as part of a thought exercise to improve my imagination.
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download it! [bofh.be]
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Beowulf at NASA/GSFC - Earth and Space Sciences Project - NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
http://beowulf.gsfc.nasa.gov/ [nasa.gov]
Re:Anyone actually use a beowolf cluster? (Score:1)
The advanages of clusters is allot of power at low cost. How well they perform compared to ordinary supercomputers de
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Yes. I do Monte Carlo simulations of photon transport. Because Monte Carlo simulations are naturally parallel, running on 12 computers (1GHz CPU each) means I finish in 1/12th the time. Simulations like these (where each CPU runs independant of all its neighbors) are pretty much a textbook problem for Beowulf clusters.
-JS
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Does using the cluster to gain notoriety on slashdot count as something important?
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They're definatly being used for things that are important. They're also well represented in the Top500 list.
It's worth noting that the super-powerful single machines all use multiple CPUs as well, it's just that their interconnect hardware is different (generally custom, proprietary, and expensive).
There is nothing you can do on a Beowulf that absolutely can't be done on the custom machines, but the custom machines are generally at least 10 times more expensive. There are problems that the custom machi
Becker rules (Score:5, Interesting)
I posted newbieshly to a Debian NG and amidst the flames and RTFM's, Donald Becker actually took the time to provide me with the solution.
This experience encouraged me to continue learning Linux networking, and the rest is (obscure) history.... :-)
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Andre Hedrick (Score:3)
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At his prompting, I did some very minor driver tweaking. I was struting for weeks because I'd not only 'helped' a real linux developer find a problem with an obscure card, but had written linux kernel code!
Even if all I did was tweak some compile time parameters by following explicit instructions.
I also remember being stunned that that 386sx was so much faster (opening xterms, etc) than the room full of Sparcs in the nearby
Imagine (Score:4, Funny)
A Beowulf cluster of resurgent troll jokes.
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Want some hot grits?
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Nah. It's the lameness filter [slashdot.org].
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Dave
Imagine! (Score:4, Funny)
wow (Score:2, Funny)
Oh yeah? Well... (Score:4, Funny)
Betcha can't imagine that. So there!
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All made entirely out of hot grits
All installed by Natalie Portman, who I stripped and petrified afterwards.
Oh ya, they're all in here [goatse.cx], too.
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how (Score:4, Funny)
Clusters, a ridiculous liberal myth (Score:4, Funny)
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Right, so they'll have 2 PR divisions, 2 marketing divisions,
This said, Donald Becker is cool, Penguin Computing is cool (I toyed with an alpha box from them for a while and I was very inpressed), so I reckon the result should be uber-cool.
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If you read the article, you would have seen that both companies are keeping their perspective names and business model the way it is. The only thing that is merging is the cluster technology on their systems to compete against bigger companies. Doing this, both companies will most likely
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Ooops, I couldn't resist.
Great.. (Score:2, Funny)
Other headlines to show up soon:
Imagine... (Score:2, Funny)
I f*king LOVE Penguin Computing!! (Score:5, Informative)
Amen to that. (Score:3, Insightful)
I am QUITE CERTAIN this merger will mean even more gnarly Penguin configurations!
Sun better watch the hell out. (go ahead fanboys, flame away)
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Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of.. (Score:2, Funny)
Thats mine line.
I will now sue you under the DMCA for copyright infringement and circumventing my right to say my line!
Don't read this (Score:2)
Won't stay up (Score:5, Funny)
Everyone knows that you can't keep a Beowulf cluster of penguins up for too long; the nodes will all go down as soon as a plane flies over them and trash your uptime.
Whoops. [urbanlegends.com]
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I just imagined a bunch of RAF pilots out flying around trying this, and that image was just about as funny as the penquins falling over.
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He told me that they routinely showed it to visiting brass (note the absence of the word top).
I suspect it works if you use a prop plane. Or maybe they just got bored of falling over all the time.
Another form of control (Score:3, Funny)
As I think more about it, it's very strange to me that this story was posted on Tuesday. As in troll Tuesday.
What if there's a grand conspiracy involving Slashdot, the trolls, and a higher level of consciousness related to both?! What if the war between them is simply a stage on which to act out and therefore express the human tendency to resist authority, and, as such, to sanction it?!
Oh, the horror! The agonizing, cold truth!
...
Ok, which door was it again?
Re:Another form of control (Score:2)
Of course, that higher level of consciousness is provided by a Beowulf cluster.
Execellent (Score:3, Interesting)
I thought Scyld was based in Anapolis Md. will they be moving out to Cali?
No, Scyld will remain in Annapolis (Score:2, Informative)
Name for a Beowulf cluster of penguin computers? (Score:3, Interesting)
I wonder what they'd call something like this. What do you call a linked group of processing computers? Maybe it depends on purpose - like "the armada" for military Beowulfs, or perhaps the "inquisition" for the RIAA
Sounds like a meeting of friends. (Score:2)
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Penguin jokes (Score:2)
A guy wants to have sex for money, but hes has only got $10.
He asks a first whore, but she says she doesn't dump prices.
He asks another one, but she says the lowest she gives is blowjobs and those cost $20
This continues until he finds one who tells him "For $10, I will do the Penguin to you".
The guy agrees and she lowers his pants, only to run away with the $10.
The guy grabs his pants and limps after the girl, shouting "My money !" (this is the visual part)
Re:Quick Question.... (Score:1)
And your mom said to tell you to watch what you say, potty mouth. Heh.
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beowulf cluster is offline
beowulf cluster is such a high performance computing environment
beowulf cluster is the only machine in the cluster that you can login to
beowulf cluster is extremely powerful
beowulf cluster is a bit extreme
beowulf cluster is an investment
beowulf cluster is available for $1195 per person
beowulf cluster is a computer system conforming to the beowulf architecture
beowulf cluster is to first connect to the universi
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How lucky I am to have such clever people to clear up my misunderstandings!
P.S. How did you guess that I suck dicks? That was also very clever of you.
You should become a detective or something!
graspee