Talk With Michael Robertson 338
Lindows CEO Michael Robertson is vilified by many Linux advocates. At the same time, he is probably drawing more attention to desktop Linux than anyone else in the world. Is he evil? Or is he just a typical American businessman trying to make it big (for the second time; before Lindows, he founded -- and later sold -- MP3.com)? One thing is for sure: Unlike many CEOs, he'll give a plain-talk answer to a straight question. We'll send 10 of the highest-moderated questions submitted here by Slashdot readers to Robertson tomorrow, and run his answers, unedited, as soon as he gets them back to us.
Kde or gnome (Score:5, Interesting)
Two cars in every garage... (Score:3, Interesting)
CnR issues, interoperability and unified looks (Score:5, Interesting)
Q. The main reason someone would buy LindowsOS is to run Click N Run. However, browsing through its aisles, we see some very old versions of the software presented there. Gnumeric and other apps haven't been updated for a year or so. Additionally, lately we don't see much new software on CnR. Any insight on that?
Q. Is work being done to unify the looks of KDE and Gnome? Also, the last time I checked, Lindows was only coming by default with Gnome/GTK+ of the 1.4 era. Any plans to upgrade?
I know nothing about Lindows, (Score:2, Interesting)
Lindows (Score:5, Interesting)
if copying Windows is your focus, isn't your OS already second-rate by design?
troll (Score:2)
Re:troll (Score:2, Interesting)
Once it was released, it became clear that the reality was far short of the promises, and their marketing shifted accordingly. But as the name suggests, it was initially positioned as "Windows for free".
nope, he's wrong (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Lindows (Score:5, Insightful)
Funny. I've been using XP for over half a year now both at work and at home, and haven't seen a BSOD yet. I'm a software developer/3D artist, which means I punish the poor things. SQL Server 2000 + Gimp + GtkRadiant (with 200 MB of textures loaded) + two instances of VS
Tell me, why should Lindows interest me? No BSODs? Don't make me laugh.
I use Linux for things that Linux is good at: firewalling, SMB (file and print), web services and mail, and getting it running reliably on cheap hardware with only a CLI.
Re:Lindows (Score:3, Funny)
I'm still getting months of uptime
bloody hell. months? The microsoft techs are really impressed with 3 months uptime on windows 2003 server, and you're getting months on winXP? are you sure you're not just using the WinXP theme on kde3?
Re:Lindows (Score:2)
Remember, Lindows isn't marke
Re:Lindows (Score:3, Interesting)
Putting Linux in the news (Score:2, Insightful)
Love him or hate him, he's putting Linux in the news. Thats a Good Thing (tm).
I was able to install Redhat 9 on my parents computer this weekend because they started with conversation with "What's this Lindows thing?"
Remains to be seen (Score:5, Funny)
Who wants to take bets that he'll give self-affirming, buzzword-laden, market-speak answers?
Game plan (Score:5, Interesting)
That said, where do you see a break even point for Lindows financially?
Also, what is the reasoning in not allowing binary downloads? I would never consider shelling our cash for a GPL based product I had never test driven.
Re:Game plan (Score:2)
What would change it all? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:What would change it all? (Score:2, Funny)
Thanks for your consideration!
Re:What would change it all? (Score:3, Insightful)
This is the exact question I wanted to ask, but didnt have the words to ask it.
Thats exactly it, So far Lindows is focused on becoming as good as Windows, but it needs to be BETTER than Windows to compete with Windows, not just as good, BETTER.
So far Linux needs to improve the quality, stuff like the fonts, the lack of alpha channel, or hardware rendering, the lack of eye candy, the clickNrun is a good start, it helps with functionality, but Linux is missing that eye candy to make Linux unique in itself,
Re:What would change it all? (Score:2)
I disagree in a way. If 'more' means better, then I disagree. In the rush to make Linux 'better' it is becoming bloated.
To me, better is smaller, faster, simpler, more reliable. I don't need Linux to second guess me like windows tries to. I don't need it to offer to report a crash to someone. I don't need it to slow me down with its 'con
I like Michael Robertson (Score:5, Interesting)
Hes done more for the community than IBM has. He personally funds alot of the Linux on the Desktop movement, while IBM is busy focused on business.
Honestly, I'd like to thank Michael Robertson for doing what hes doing, most people wouldnt give their own money to make Linux a success.
I dont see anyone else doing this. Millions of dollars to KDE, hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Xbox project, and many other things.
Re:I like Michael Robertson (Score:2)
Hes done more for the community than IBM has.
I think that is a bit of an overstatement. But I agree with the general sentiment. I don't like Lindows for a number of reasons. But I have to admit that the distribution model is a fascinating one and may force the adotpion of Linux in general by OEM's if even marginally successful.
I think the question we should ask him is quite direct: "Are you evil?" Hey it is what many
Huh? Millions of dollars? Didn't happen... (Score:3, Informative)
Bzzt. Wrong. Nobody has ever given "millions of dollars to KDE". In fact IBM has certainly had more tangible contributions to the project.
I'm not anti-Lindows or anti-Michael, but this is a gross overstatement. To the best of my knowledge a few thousand dollars were given to the KDE League; this is a far cry from "millions". We of course appreciate the contribution, but it's important to keep things in perspective. KDE has never had a donation of anywhere close to a millio
my.mp3.com (Score:2, Insightful)
my.mp3 was a great idea, and it should have survived in its earlier form
now it's just not the same to pay for everything, or to have most albums locked out
and it can't be grouped together with other p2p services like napster, kazaa, etc, because it wasn't really a useful tool for piracy
I remember a report that documented many of the security features that really helped to prevent piracy in the my.mp3 system
we know you aren't necessarily in the mp3 business currently, but do you have any plans or ideas t
Well (Score:2)
Yeah file sharing within Lindows would be great if its built in, or even an mp3.com style setup.
Or maybe a Media warehouse, where you can have an mp3.com type setup.
Viruses (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Linux has its types of virii (Score:3, Interesting)
I would probably like having such an application in the hands of a newbie so that if his system gets rooted, it gets fixed eventually instead of becoming a permanent spam gateway.
Re:Viruses (Score:2)
Just this year, our moderately sized company has stopped over 12,000 virus attachments being sent to our employees.
Re:Viruses (Score:4, Informative)
MAJOR problem looming on the horizon. (Score:3, Informative)
The fact is that viruses come in many forms. The more common ones today are of the worm variety and they usually target Outlook because it is the most pervasive mail client out there. But, because Linux has not yet seen a powerful worm or virus does NOT mean tha
Question (Score:5, Interesting)
What are your plans (if any) for helping support the rest of the linux community. If more contributions were made back to the OSS community, then I think people would come to respect Lindows much more. Of course, as a corporation, you are totally entitled to do what you want to do. But this is an area where many feel the best strategy is to not get ahead at the expense of others, but to extend a helping hand back to the community that gave you life.
Re:Question (Score:2)
What "expense" has Robertson imposed on anyone else?
"Best strategy" for what? You're assuming a commonality of purpose that may not exist.
why oh why? (Score:5, Interesting)
Is this how Lindows is going to continue to work in the future? I think this is one "feature" of Win9x that would really be better to leave in the past.
Re:why oh why? (Score:2)
Because it is designed to be a single user system
Lindows-- all the familiarity of Linux combined with the security of Windows 95
Re:why oh why? (Score:2)
One nice thing about using Gentoo is that I'm more compelled to learn the workings of everything I touch now.
Re:why oh why? (Score:3, Informative)
Micheal Robertson, heres my question. (Score:5, Interesting)
What do you think of the situation going on in the Xfree86 development community? Will Lindows be able to compete with OSX anytime soon in terms of quality.
Lindows is good right now, but the quality is behind and that extra quality which OSX has, is exactly what Linux is missing. When Linux gets quality, eye candy, or whatever you call it, the masses will come along.
Games mostly work, Alot of the important applications work. All Lindows needs is to simply be better at first glance than Windows.
EVIL? (Score:2)
How can a question like this be entered into rational discourse? You people have been playing too many computer role playing games. Here in real life the bar for "evil" lies a little higher: Charlie Manson, Tim McVeigh.
Get a grip.
Re:EVIL? (Score:2)
Ever heard of the "Axis Of Evil"? This black-and-white simplicity is rampant in American Public Discourse, and seeing how
Here's a question for ya (Score:4, Funny)
The name's the thing (Score:5, Interesting)
Walmart? (Score:5, Interesting)
No plans at all (Score:2)
They've been selling well for a while.
How is Lindows doing financially? (Score:5, Interesting)
Will Lindows be an open company? When can we buy stocks? and how are they doing?
These are some good questions, it would also be nice to have a clue on where they are going with this. Redhat has some projections on what their roadmap is. I know Michael Robertson has alot of money, but he doesnt have infinite money.
Also what about a cheaper subscription service for college students? Lindows college edition which instead of $99, is alot cheaper or maybe even free.
Goals... (Score:3, Interesting)
Personally, I cannot see how you could convince someone to forgo the next Windows release in favor of Lindows.
Price, Quality (Score:2)
If Lindows is higher quality and cheaper than Windows2003, people will choose Lindows.
Re:Price, Quality (Score:3, Insightful)
Real economics isn't this simple.
Why the change from Windows to Click'n'Run (Score:5, Interesting)
Why the change? Were the technical problems associated with Wine too great to overcome? Was it fear of legal action from Microsoft?
I would have thought there was a large potential market for Lindows as originally conceived. Why move away from that vision to something much less clearly differentiated from other Linux distributions?
PATENTING ONE-CLICK-INSTALL (Score:5, Interesting)
Could you please update me on your efforts to patent your once-click-software-update solution?
If you are granted such a patent, do you plan on allowing the open source community free (beer/speech/both?) licensing?
How much? (Score:4, Interesting)
Click-n-Run vs apt-get (Score:5, Interesting)
What is in place to keep people from changing the apt-get sources from CnR to the Debian sources and install something like Synaptic [conectiva.com.br] (and getting newer, updated packages for free) instead of paying the $99/year (with a few execeptions)?
why not just use P2P? (Score:2)
why use apt-get or clickNrun? What about using P2P instead?
Re:why not just use P2P? (Score:2)
Games, games, and more games ... (Score:5, Interesting)
Give away Lindows to college students. (Score:3)
Well I asked this question before but I think if you want to market Lindows, you need to give it away to college students who cannot afford to buy it anyway. How about you go on a sorta tour, where you go to college campuses, you show Lindows, and you give out free CDs. Go from College to College for about a year, get students using Lindows on their laptops instead of Windows, Apple does this kinda thing with their Ibooks.
MP3.com in retrospect (Score:5, Interesting)
Do you think MP3.com was a good business idea in the first place? Do you think the sale of the site to Vivendi Universal was a good idea?
apt? (Score:2, Insightful)
Raising Ire (Score:2)
Is it a personality defect, or just skills you've never developed? If you don't have time to learn (e.g. read "Getting to Yes"), couldn't you hire somebody with those skills to help keep you from pissing off everybody who's ever tried to help you?
Re:Raising Ire (Score:2)
What's the plan for Windows compatibility? (Score:5, Interesting)
How wold you describe Windows emulation in Lindows today? What do you expect for it in a year or two? Do you still expect Windows support to be an important distinguishing feature for Lindows?
Ron Ropeil (Score:4, Funny)
Running Windows Applications (Score:2)
This is great! I'm a HUGE fan! (Score:2, Funny)
I took down pictures of my kids when I got my litho of "The Kramer", but it was worth it.
Should Linux Remain a Cult Obhect for Geeks? (Score:5, Interesting)
Straight Question (Score:2)
Linux's greatest weakness (Score:5, Interesting)
MP3.com (Score:4, Interesting)
I have a question.... (Score:2, Interesting)
Mark
Why go with Lindows over Redhat. (Score:4, Insightful)
bridging the gap (Score:2)
Games and Office (Score:4, Insightful)
What do you think?
Re:Games and Office (Score:2)
Transgaming and Lindows are partners.
Games. (Score:3, Interesting)
Key selling point. (Score:3, Interesting)
How then do you see lindows competing with windows. Is it purely going to be on price or do you feel other things might be used to win the non-linux fans over to youre distro?
Are there any results available on customer satisfaction? MS has reasoned that computers sold without one their OSes preinstalled would instead be loaded with pirated versions. Have you got any figures available that could help to dispute this?
Good luck in court, hope you succeed where most others have failed.
Wine? (Score:5, Interesting)
Wal-Mart (Score:5, Interesting)
User feedback on Linux-based desktop OS (Score:5, Interesting)
What are the things people ask for? What are some things general users would like to see in Lindows or Linux-based desktop distributions that aren't there yet?
Source code (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Source code (Score:4, Informative)
NO, MOD PARENT DOWN (Score:4, Informative)
You don't understand the GPL, which says nothing about using the internet to distribute source code. Lindows.com is perfectly within the GPL - they distribute the source code to those that pay for the compiled binaries and choose to download it, which satisfies all the GPL requires. You just can't hold your source for ransom.
We don't need to bother Robertson with this crap, you can get the answers yourself at http://www.fsf.org/copyleft/copyleft.html or http://www.lindows.com.
Strange behavior of starving companies (Score:3, Interesting)
In case this question gets moderated high enough, I'd like to see an answer which covers the differences of software developlemnt models like debian or microsoft compared to this in-between thing of Mandrake.
Xbox Linux (Score:4, Interesting)
Delon Dotson (Score:3, Insightful)
Why only preinstalled? (Score:5, Interesting)
Changes? (Score:2)
Is music business where it should be? (Score:2)
What's the real deal with Centrino? (Score:2)
E-mail to Intel support proved unhelpful -- they didn't seem to know anything about Scott McLaughlin's statements. Can you shed some light on this? Is the wireless chipset the primary concern her
What are your thoughts... (Score:2)
On starting a business (Score:2)
Will you promise to play nice? (Score:2, Insightful)
Rivalry and Revenue (Score:3, Interesting)
WineX (Score:2)
I think the slight licensing based costs would be covered up by the mass amount of users that would potentially switch because now their games work...
No question, just a word of advice for roblimo (Score:2, Insightful)
Don't really want to see it turn into the William Shatner interview [slashdot.org], now, do we?
Lindows Mobile PC (Score:3, Interesting)
SCO Unix (Score:3, Interesting)
Libraries and Developers (Score:3, Interesting)
As a developer who doesn't want to pay for CNR it makes getting a -dev package really inconvenient.
Also, why did Lindows choose not to ship gcc as a standard component of the OS? Its the first Linux distro I've ever seen that didn't.
lindows user feedback (Score:3)
What feedback have you received from members of the general public who use Lindows? I would be interested to hear what the average person who bought a Lindows-loaded PC at Wal-mart and used it for a while had to say about it.
Does your company use Lindows for day-to-day (including non-technical) tasks?
What is it about Michael Robertson? (Score:2, Interesting)
Unfortunately, people resent you for not providing a free download, and some hate the fact that your website is crawling with pictures of you.
Well, I
Re:The sheep are stupid. Why not use them? (Score:2)
Stick to machines, OK?
Highest Rating Ever! (Score:2)
Umm... It may just me, but I never see any posts get rated higher than 5. Presumably, there will be more than ten questions rated at 5. How will you determine which ten of these you will send?