I am really tired of systemd. So really tired of the developers shoving that shit down the linux throat. It's not pretty, it seems to grow out of control, taking on more and more responsibility.... I don't even have an idea how to look at my logs anymore. Nor how to clear the damn things out! Adding toolkits should make the system as clear to understand as it was, not more complex. If it gets any worse it might as well be Windows 10!
init was easy to understand, easy to use. syslog was easy read easy to understand and easy to clear. All this bull about "it's a faster startup" is just... well bull. I'm using a computer 20 times faster than I was a decade ago. You think 20 seconds off a minute startup is an achievement? It's seconds on a couple of days uptime; big f*cking deal.
Redhat, Fedora, turn away from the light and return to your roots!
Gentoo seems like a good idea, until you realize it installs systemd by default. I suppose you can emerge open-rc, but who knows when that will stop being maintained? Even if they don't I'm willing to bet most of the Gentoo Handbook will assume you've got the systemd tools installed. They are a bit better about considering alternate configurations, than say, ArchLinux. Speaking of which..
If you are thinking of ArchLinux as a method of escaping systemd, forget it. They also recommend installing system
How burdensome that you're forced to use all this free software. You'd think the volume of you and people like you would have amassed enough that the "obvious" alternatives you all think should be done could be combined into a serviceable Linux distribution. How is Devuan going?
It's not pretty, it seems to grow out of control, taking on more and more responsibility....
Kind of like a daemon to control the entire system?
I don't even have an idea how to look at my logs anymore. Nor how to clear the damn things out! Adding toolkits should make the system as clear to understand as it was, not more complex. If it gets any worse it might as well be Windows 10!
You could always type "man journalctl". You do know how to read a man page right? I mean fuck reading log files is one of the things that's orders of magnitude easier in systemd than trawling through hundreds of thousands of lines of a text file using complex pipes between sed, grep, awk, god knows what to find a line you're interested in.
init was easy to understand,
Nope.
easy to use.
Without looking it up what single line command stops a service from running in runlevel 5 on Ubuntu? Without lookin
do you expect knowledge of a new system to ooze out of the ether into your head? there are pages and pages of documentation out there. RTFM. tip: "journalctl" is for reading the new journal or if you still have syslog configured to run then do what you usually do.
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If you are thinking of ArchLinux as a method of escaping systemd, forget it. They also recommend installing system
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How burdensome that you're forced to use all this free software. You'd think the volume of you and people like you would have amassed enough that the "obvious" alternatives you all think should be done could be combined into a serviceable Linux distribution. How is Devuan going?
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I don't even have an idea how to look at my logs anymore. Nor how to clear the damn things out!
Tells us more about you than about systemd.
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It's not pretty, it seems to grow out of control, taking on more and more responsibility ....
Kind of like a daemon to control the entire system?
I don't even have an idea how to look at my logs anymore. Nor how to clear the damn things out! Adding toolkits should make the system as clear to understand as it was, not more complex. If it gets any worse it might as well be Windows 10!
You could always type "man journalctl". You do know how to read a man page right? I mean fuck reading log files is one of the things that's orders of magnitude easier in systemd than trawling through hundreds of thousands of lines of a text file using complex pipes between sed, grep, awk, god knows what to find a line you're interested in.
init was easy to understand,
Nope.
easy to use.
Without looking it up what single line command stops a service from running in runlevel 5 on Ubuntu? Without lookin
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