I can't belive this is still in the news. He put his foot in his mouth years ago, was punished, apologized a d explained his stupid nerdy inability to vocalize what he really meant and it came out wrong. I for one Commend him for standing up to these bullies and media hack journalists.
1. Selective misinterpretations of words are better than facts
2. Political correctness must be achieved at any cost to others than myself.
3. All reasonable people are under suspicion because my belief system cannot stand the light of reason.
4. If you are not with me you are against me.
5. If you don't like it, you are next
Those aren't new rules. The idea of being politically correct has always existed in... wait for it... political positions. Which is precisely what Stallman's position on in the FSF is. He's not there for technical advice. He's not there for for his engineering skills. He's there are a public figurehead, a highly political position depending heavily on good PR.
And he's proven himself to be unqualified.
Note: There is no misinterpretation of words. Whether what Stallman said was right or wrong technically ha
"Note: There is no misinterpretation of words. Whether what Stallman said was right or wrong technically has zero bearing on the discussions right now. His position in public defense of Minsky is the sword he chose to fall on. Having public opinions like that is reserved for those people not in positions that are 100% dependent on public relations."
You are part of the problem. Hurry, or you will be late for your womyn's studies class.
Bu the new rules are:
1. Selective misinterpretations of words are better than facts
2. Political correctness must be achieved at any cost to others than myself.
3. All reasonable people are under suspicion because my belief system cannot stand the light of reason.
4. If you are not with me you are against me.
5. If you don't like it, you are next
Yep. And all that got a full vote of confidence from the Slashdot zeitgeist. Because orange man bad.
I can't belive this is still in the news. He put his foot in his mouth years ago, was punished, apologized a d explained his stupid nerdy inability to vocalize what he really meant and it came out wrong. I for one Commend him for standing up to these bullies and media hack journalists.
He then unresigned with zero notice or public engagement. That wasn't his (or the FSF board's) decision to make, at least not if they didn't want to cause another big controversy.
I personally would be a lot more willing to accept rms's past statements if it wasn't for the circumstances surrounding the unresignation. Serving on a board entails certain responsibilities to the organization and the community the organization is supposed to server. The FSF board and rms failed to fulfil these responsibilities wi
apologized a d explained his stupid nerdy inability to vocalize what he really meant
So basically for a figure head and a public persona that is an opinion leader in an industry he basically told everyone he's unqualified for the position he is in.
You seem to think his position demands one of technical excellence rather than one of great public relations. That's your problem. What is happening here isn't bullying, it's a legitimate discussion about the attributes and skills of a leader, a leader who put his foot in his mouth, proceeded to give a complete non apology, and effectively stated this will continue happening.
I frankly couldn't give a shit what he said about whom, but just on that basis alone we're clearly talking about a man not suited for the position people are vehemently defending him in. Heck his mere existence has resulted in big name donors pulling out of the FSF. If he was an employee, even a CEO, he'd have been fired by now.
The SJWs driving this crap will disagree, because they are "for-or-against" primitives that are unable to respect anybody not fully agreeing with them.
Saying nothing and doing nothing is to be part of the oppressor in the fight. The question though is who is really the oppressor here.
RMS is basically being punished for being human, but the problem is that if you don't punish people for sex crimes, even if they were not the one personally involved (Eg they allow, approve or advocate for no punishment for sex crimes) then everyone associated with them gets painted with the same brush. So by FSF allowing RMS back, or even allowing any contribution from him a
So who committed a sex crime? Who advocated for leaving a sex crime unpunished?
As far as I can tell, Epstein DID commit several sex crimes and is now dead so the question of punishment is moot. Nobody under discussion ever suggested that he go unpunished.
Well the nice thing about saying nothing is no one can agree or disagree with you.
Oh how cute.
No, Im afraid that failing to join in the two minutes hate against Stallman is itself grounds to brand you a... er... whatever it is Stallman is supposed to be.
"There are things that are so serious that you can only joke about them"
- Heisenberg
Safe spaces. (Score:2)
Well the nice thing about saying nothing is no one can agree or disagree with you.
Re: Safe spaces. (Score:5, Interesting)
Re: Safe spaces. (Score:5, Insightful)
1. Selective misinterpretations of words are better than facts
2. Political correctness must be achieved at any cost to others than myself.
3. All reasonable people are under suspicion because my belief system cannot stand the light of reason.
4. If you are not with me you are against me.
5. If you don't like it, you are next
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Those aren't new rules. The idea of being politically correct has always existed in ... wait for it ... political positions. Which is precisely what Stallman's position on in the FSF is. He's not there for technical advice. He's not there for for his engineering skills. He's there are a public figurehead, a highly political position depending heavily on good PR.
And he's proven himself to be unqualified.
Note: There is no misinterpretation of words. Whether what Stallman said was right or wrong technically ha
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"Note: There is no misinterpretation of words. Whether what Stallman said was right or wrong technically has zero bearing on the discussions right now. His position in public defense of Minsky is the sword he chose to fall on. Having public opinions like that is reserved for those people not in positions that are 100% dependent on public relations."
You are part of the problem. Hurry, or you will be late for your womyn's studies class.
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Bu the new rules are: 1. Selective misinterpretations of words are better than facts 2. Political correctness must be achieved at any cost to others than myself. 3. All reasonable people are under suspicion because my belief system cannot stand the light of reason. 4. If you are not with me you are against me. 5. If you don't like it, you are next
Yep. And all that got a full vote of confidence from the Slashdot zeitgeist. Because orange man bad.
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Re: Safe spaces. (Score:1)
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I can't belive this is still in the news. He put his foot in his mouth years ago, was punished, apologized a d explained his stupid nerdy inability to vocalize what he really meant and it came out wrong. I for one Commend him for standing up to these bullies and media hack journalists.
He then unresigned with zero notice or public engagement. That wasn't his (or the FSF board's) decision to make, at least not if they didn't want to cause another big controversy.
I personally would be a lot more willing to accept rms's past statements if it wasn't for the circumstances surrounding the unresignation. Serving on a board entails certain responsibilities to the organization and the community the organization is supposed to server. The FSF board and rms failed to fulfil these responsibilities wi
Re: Safe spaces. (Score:4, Interesting)
apologized a d explained his stupid nerdy inability to vocalize what he really meant
So basically for a figure head and a public persona that is an opinion leader in an industry he basically told everyone he's unqualified for the position he is in.
You seem to think his position demands one of technical excellence rather than one of great public relations. That's your problem. What is happening here isn't bullying, it's a legitimate discussion about the attributes and skills of a leader, a leader who put his foot in his mouth, proceeded to give a complete non apology, and effectively stated this will continue happening.
I frankly couldn't give a shit what he said about whom, but just on that basis alone we're clearly talking about a man not suited for the position people are vehemently defending him in. Heck his mere existence has resulted in big name donors pulling out of the FSF. If he was an employee, even a CEO, he'd have been fired by now.
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>>You seem to think his position demands one of technical excellence rather than one of great public relations
I want free software defended by someone with free software philosophy.
You seem to think the position has something to do with PR.
Once you find the correct measuring stick we can have a discussion about who is suited for the position.
Re:Safe spaces. (Score:5, Interesting)
The SJWs driving this crap will disagree, because they are "for-or-against" primitives that are unable to respect anybody not fully agreeing with them.
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Saying nothing and doing nothing is to be part of the oppressor in the fight. The question though is who is really the oppressor here.
RMS is basically being punished for being human, but the problem is that if you don't punish people for sex crimes, even if they were not the one personally involved (Eg they allow, approve or advocate for no punishment for sex crimes) then everyone associated with them gets painted with the same brush. So by FSF allowing RMS back, or even allowing any contribution from him a
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RMS did not "allow, approve or advocate for no punishment for sex crimes."
Such an accusation against RMS would be an obvious and gross misrepresentation of what he said.
Re: Safe spaces. (Score:2)
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So who committed a sex crime? Who advocated for leaving a sex crime unpunished?
As far as I can tell, Epstein DID commit several sex crimes and is now dead so the question of punishment is moot. Nobody under discussion ever suggested that he go unpunished.
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"I have no strong feelings one way or the other." -- Neutral President of Neutral Planet [youtube.com]
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Well the nice thing about saying nothing is no one can agree or disagree with you.
Oh how cute.
No, Im afraid that failing to join in the two minutes hate against Stallman is itself grounds to brand you a ... er ... whatever it is Stallman is supposed to be.