Only handle the simple cases. When they don't tell you exactly what they are going to do, well then they are useless because you can't trust them. Gonna touch the gpt ? Gonna create a hybrid mbr? Gonna force me to use CSM? Gonna *touch* any other partition than what I tell you??? hard pass.
I actually miss the older style gui installers where you picked all your options and which packages you wanted to install first, then let 'er rip. I guess asking too many questions up front was seen as intimidating to newbies.
ANYTHING is seen as "intimidating to newbies". It isn't, and never was. But it was *seen* as intimidating *until they damn well were*. We literally bred and raised people dumber.
Remember that COBOL, BASIC, Pascal, (ba)sh/CLIs, Oak (Java), HTML, JavaScript, etc, were all created as easy-to-use interfaces for the laypeople at home. And they were.
It's just a matter of mindset. A scripting language almost completly consists of concepts that everybody uses in daily life all the time. Everybody gets "do that five times", or "if this, then that" of "Start day will be July, 15. The house we do on that day is Jack's house. And that day we'll gonna paint the house." (Indirect variables/pointers). A recipe is literally an imperative program with variables, functions, loops, branching, you name it. And gradma just runs it without ever even thinking if it could be too hard or "scary".
ANYTHING is seen as "intimidating to newbies".
It isn't, and never was. But it was *seen* as intimidating *until they damn well were*.
We literally bred and raised people dumber.
Remember that COBOL, BASIC, Pascal, (ba)sh/CLIs, Oak (Java), HTML, JavaScript, etc, were all created as easy-to-use interfaces for the laypeople at home. And they were.
It's just a matter of mindset. A scripting language almost completly consists of concepts that everybody uses in daily life all the time.
Everybody gets "do that five times", or "if this, then that" of "Start day will be July, 15. The house we do on that day is Jack's house. And that day we'll gonna paint the house." (Indirect variables/pointers).
A recipe is literally an imperative program with variables, functions, loops, branching, you name it. And gradma just runs it without ever even thinking if it could be too hard or "scary".
The whole "it's hard" thing is bullshit.
I'm tempted to agree with you, but then I remember that we can't even train users to not click links in emails.
The amount of beauty required launch 1 ship = 1 Millihelen
GUI installers (Score:-1)
Only handle the simple cases.
When they don't tell you exactly what they are going to do, well then they are useless because you can't trust them.
Gonna touch the gpt ? Gonna create a hybrid mbr? Gonna force me to use CSM? Gonna *touch* any other partition than what I tell you???
hard pass.
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I actually miss the older style gui installers where you picked all your options and which packages you wanted to install first, then let 'er rip. I guess asking too many questions up front was seen as intimidating to newbies.
Re: GUI installers (Score:2)
ANYTHING is seen as "intimidating to newbies".
It isn't, and never was. But it was *seen* as intimidating *until they damn well were*.
We literally bred and raised people dumber.
Remember that COBOL, BASIC, Pascal, (ba)sh/CLIs, Oak (Java), HTML, JavaScript, etc, were all created as easy-to-use interfaces for the laypeople at home. And they were.
It's just a matter of mindset. A scripting language almost completly consists of concepts that everybody uses in daily life all the time.
Everybody gets "do that five times", or "if this, then that" of "Start day will be July, 15. The house we do on that day is Jack's house. And that day we'll gonna paint the house." (Indirect variables/pointers).
A recipe is literally an imperative program with variables, functions, loops, branching, you name it. And gradma just runs it without ever even thinking if it could be too hard or "scary".
The whole "it's hard" thing is bullshit.
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ANYTHING is seen as "intimidating to newbies". It isn't, and never was. But it was *seen* as intimidating *until they damn well were*. We literally bred and raised people dumber.
Remember that COBOL, BASIC, Pascal, (ba)sh/CLIs, Oak (Java), HTML, JavaScript, etc, were all created as easy-to-use interfaces for the laypeople at home. And they were.
It's just a matter of mindset. A scripting language almost completly consists of concepts that everybody uses in daily life all the time. Everybody gets "do that five times", or "if this, then that" of "Start day will be July, 15. The house we do on that day is Jack's house. And that day we'll gonna paint the house." (Indirect variables/pointers). A recipe is literally an imperative program with variables, functions, loops, branching, you name it. And gradma just runs it without ever even thinking if it could be too hard or "scary".
The whole "it's hard" thing is bullshit.
I'm tempted to agree with you, but then I remember that we can't even train users to not click links in emails.