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Linus @BALUG 78

Posted by CmdrTaco from the stuff-to-read dept.
Chris DiBona wrote in to send us this summary of Linus' talk over at the BALUG. Lots of pictures and a good summary of the talk. Worth a gander.
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  • ack! (Score:1)

    by drwiii ( 434 )
    Oh no! I just noticed somebody in the crowd at Linus's talk!!

    LINK [min.net]

  • Posted by PasswdIs ScoreOne:

    Damn straight. And wealth also attracts women. Sure, when they're kids, I've learned that chicks dig jerks, until they grow up and figure out that that "cool guys" can't afford things like a home or provide for a family. Then they are drawn to the geekier guys. And that's ok because they soon learn that we really aren't all that geeky after all. Do I hate the cool guys for giving me a hard time and the women for ignoring me back then. Nah. I'm happy now. The best revenge is living well.
  • If you're that concerned about throughput, why the heck are you running Solaris on *PCs*?

    --
    Get your fresh, hot kernels right here [kernel.org]!
  • What's cheaper for getting a 64 bit fs: getting a 64 bit PC or installing Win NT? Linux bails out at 0x3fffffff bytes or 3 minutes of video, whichever comes first. Don't give me an anecdote. Give me a price.
  • Man you are a class act, I wouldn't be so chubby if the french weren't so darn tasty.

    Chris DiBona
    VA Linux Systems
    --
    Grant Chair, Linux Int.
    VP, SVLUG

  • While I am not looking forward to the growth, at least I know my Operating System can take it :-)

    Chris DiBona
    VA Linux Systems
    --
    Grant Chair, Linux Int.
    VP, SVLUG

  • They are the users, hackers, et al that have made linux what it is today. Where was Corel when Linus posted his v0.x kernel code to USENET? Where were all these distros when there was no v2.x kernel? If they don't like it, perhaps they should arrange to meet with him, at his convenience instead of their own.

    Linus has got his head on straight. He knows that linux goes nowhere, no matter how many or how few distros there are or what they do, without the grass root support that has brought it this far. Perhaps you should attempt to emulate him rather than criticize him.
  • Oh, me too!! (Damn funny!)

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    "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein
  • Also very funny (countenance! Ha Ha!! ;-)

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    "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein
  • America is one of the few places in the world with a culture that absolutely, positively encourages people to be greedy. They never really develop control over those impulses. And though that overwhelming urge to have "more" is supposed to be directed towards money, property, etc., it inevitably extends to things like hamburgers, chocolate bars, etc. The brain doesn't make the distinction.
  • That's for a 533Mhz 21264-based computer (yes, computer: everything but monitor) from Microway. You could probably go under $2000 if you looked harder, but in any case we're already talking prices low enough to make the NT Tax noticeable, and low enough to make the NT Maintenance Tax* and Code Maintenance Tax* the major factor in your purchasing decision.

    *NT Maintenance Tax: cost of crashes/downtime, plus the cost of either hiring either an admin dull enough to want NT or an admin pricy enough to accept it anyways

    *Code Maintenance Tax: the money you'll be paying expensive programmers someday to fix the kludges you used to try and use 64-bit addressing on a 32-bit system, when you eventually do upgrade to a 64-bit processor.
  • Cars and TV.

    The only exercise most American's get is the twice-daily trot between the front steps to the car door.

    When not working, most Americans are at home watching TV. The only thing that can distract us from the sparkly moving colors on the screen is the growling of our own stomachs. These gastric tantrums can only be kept at bay by a steady stream of starch and lard-based food items. In many cases, you can substitute the TV with a computer screen and attain similar results.

    Come to America! Join us!

    You'll adjust in no time, and soon have your own couch creaking like a frigate on the high seas.
  • Actually if you look at the picture it's a laborgini Diablo....
    "There is no spoon" - Neo, The Matrix
    "SPOOOOOOOOON!" - The Tick, The Tick
  • I'll attribute putting "ferrari" to me waking up at 4:30 this morning.

    s/ferrari/lamborghini

    -- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?

  • I know! heheh

    See: This Link [slashdot.org]


    -- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?

  • heheh, I know. If you take a look here [slashdot.org], you'll see. :)

    P.S.: Look at the time posted. I posted it SECONDS after the first one.

    -- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?

  • P.S.: If Al Gore can blame an ignorant comment on being tired, so can I! ;)

    -- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?

  • This Picture [merlins.org] Rocks.

    A) It's a Ferrari
    B) It's got a Bad Ass license Plate

    ---

    On to the other parts of the article...

    Linus is looking at 8, maybe 16 CPUs, but not 256 or 512 CPUs. After 16 CPUs or so, he prefers to look at clustering because a lot of hardware, especially PC hardware, wasn't designed for such scalability anyway.

    Efficent clusters can make good use of multiple nodes with multiple CPUs. You won't necessarily need a 200 node system with each node having 200 processors (although that would be SWEET). You could just as easily have 200 nodes, each with 16 CPUs. You have to balance necessity with realism.

    For now, he doesn't have a list of what he will allow in 2.4. At this point, performance and USB are the main focus and we'll see afterwards.

    USB support would be good, but I'm still not sold on the principle of USB. As for performance, I'm not sure how much further it can go (although, I DO believe in Linus and the Linux Development team). 2.2.X achieved a TREMENDOUS performance leap over 2.0.3X. If we see another one of those jumps, I'd be thrilled.

    While the penguin was announced as a 2.0 mascott at the beginning, there's no plans for a new mascott for linux 3.0

    Why the fsck do we need a new mascot?!?!?

    Just some thoughts, rants, etc.. :)

    -- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?

  • We might actually get more than 10 people to show up to a meeting if he did...

    maybe if we ask real nicely-like...

  • That's the official company line. If you ask Linus what Transmeta does he says "Cool stuff".

    chris
  • I'd NEVER get away with a comment like that even if I really was tired...
    But thats the diffrence between beening Vice press and botching it badly on the first ellection.

    What can I pretend to have invented....
    Hehe anyway it's a kicker no matter what brand name vehical it is.
    I say lets rase funds to buy ESR and RS simmlerly cool transports...
    GNU open hardware Starship perhaps?
    Can I make the warp drive?
  • Regarding the products on your web site, I for one would pay $$$ to the author for an 'official copy' of a linux video editing suite on CD. I just won't pay for a license to use it. It looks like the work that you're doing is good stuff, but I certainly hope you plan to open it up. You could GPL older versions, like Aladdin Software, or release a limited GPL edition (although you wouldn't be able to incorporate user mods into the main dual-license tree without the users assigning copyright on their code)..

    Besides, another proprietary video editing suite will be competing with a number of rather large companies, since production people often pick the operating system based on what editing product they'll be using. A GPL'd version of the same wouldn't really compete with them -- but it would have a fighting chance at replacing them.

  • It's almost impossible not to put on weight in the US. I moved here last october. I had weighed 70 Kg for the last 10 years, after eight months here I almost weigh 80 Kg (that's 176 Lbs on old money).

    The causes?

    • Not being able to walk anywhere, not even the shops. You just can't do it, distances are too far, pavements are few and far between, and people look at you as though you're a freak.
    • Humungous portions of food in the restaurants, really ridiculous. And the food isn't too healthy either, lot's and lot's of lovely fat. Try and order a salad just to be healthy - it arrives covered in dressing with enough fat and colesterol in it to sink a ship.
    • It's hot here (I live in Houston) so I need (oh yes, need) to drink lots of beer to stay cool.
    • Skinny people are hunted down and shot like dogs.
  • Nope, it definitely is a Countach.

  • /.ed? (Score:1)

    by ywwg ( 20925 )
    Is the site _already_ down? Mirrors? Cached pages?
  • Efficent clusters can make good use of multiple nodes with multiple CPUs.

    Linus talks sense. I've always wondered why people get so upset about defining "scalability" by SMP arguments. Sure, I'd kill to have an SMP box. But SMP is a waste of money past some magic number of processors (two? four? eight?), getting the same performance is much cheaper using clustering, a la the IBM SP2 or Beowulf, or clusters of SMP's (Convex?).



  • The day Transmeta give some informations about what they are doing this could be a cool motto for slashdot. No???? ;-)
  • Aside from all of the other reasons Americans are so fat, we (especially Californians) don't smoke as much as Europeans, so we don't have all that nicotine driving our metabolism. We may be fat, but we don't smell like ashtrays. So there.
  • It's a Countach. That is, if it's not a replica. Hard to tell without looking closely or listening to the engine. (It's kinda hard to fake the sound of 12 cylinders.)
  • Who ever you are .. I want to be you. I want to be just like you.. consider yourself envied. I want to be able to drive to work, (linux related of course) pimpin in my bad ass red car with I love linux on the plates.

    Dude what I wouldn't give to be you. :)
  • Difference between a Ferrari and a Lamborgini?
    about a 100 grand!

    I'll still enjoy driving my Nissan Sentra!

    As for a new mascot, check out this guy [rr.com]! -- NOTE: This link is dead at the moment. But it should be up by tomorrow (or later today). It is definitly worth the look!
    The New OS Mascot

  • Re:Why are they so fat?! (Score:4)

    by nevets ( 39138 ) on Thursday June 17, 1999 @11:42AM (#1845532) Homepage Journal
    Is this somekind disease only Americans have?

    Yes, it's what technology brings us.

    What do you eat over there people?

    Twinkies.

    PS: do you really need bigger seats in public transport because you don't fit anymore in these "tiny" ones?

    Yes, or actually we need two seats that have no arm between them.

    OK OK, I was just in Europe, and I did notice that there are not many Fat people around. But I work in a large corporation and I watch people take the elevator to keep from going up one flight of stairs. No they don't have any problems, just laziness. But then again, ain't most programmers lazy. That's what usually makes for better code and less SLOC.

    Good exercise is to move you computers around the office/home every 45 minutes :)

  • >This Picture Rocks.

    >A) It's a Ferrari
    >B) It's got a Bad Ass license Plate

    Nope -

    A) Its a Lamborghini Countach
    B) It's got a Bad Ass license Plate :)

  • If you want to check out the engine:
    http://marc.merlins.org/perso/photos/Home/Newcar /112_lamborgini.html

    Mmmh, a house or a car? Well, I'm too conservative, I'll go for the house first (the
    car was selling for $80k)

    Marc
  • I do drive a mazda for now (and do own the license plate): photo [merlins.org]

    $80k for a lamborgini was tempting, but I'll get the house first. In the meantime, you can still have fun with gimp.
    Marc Check before [merlins.org] and after [merlins.org]

  • I agree with marcus, Linus knows that its the users that have helped linux grow. Not some company. We are the ones who sent in our feedback on kernels and distros.

    Just my $00.02
  • Having been to the zoo recently, I'd have to disagree, unless the maggots are a big factor (the zoo people clean up too fast). The aroma of Penguin droppings dominated by herring.

    Linux smells like hot plastic. At least that's the change in the way my computer room smelled after I installed it. But then I realized my HP DeskJet 500c was overheating because I was leaving the whole system on all the time. With the printer turned off, Linux has a scent too subtle for my defective sinuses to detect.



    Fear my wrath, please, fear my wrath?
    Homer
  • 1) Car culture: no place is within walking distance, everything is on automobile scale. And people feel they have a RIGHT to convenient parking. In conjuction with this many people commute several hours a day in cars to get home.

    2) Fast food: High in fat. When you spend hours commuting to and from work and school you want the easiest food available.

    3) Sedentary work. Pushing a mouse is not excercise.

    4) Television/geeking on computers. Not exactly exersize either. Instead of playing soccor or other sports we live life vicariously through tv, watching ads for fast food and automobiles.

    The really nice thing is that 90% of the world wants to be like us. Eventually we will assimilate them....


  • Downside, you have no sex life or friends.
    Upside, you have a shagalicious car.
  • While the penguin was announced as a 2.0 mascott at the beginning, there's no plans for a new mascott for linux 3.0

    Why the fsck do we need a new mascot?!?!?

    it says *no* plans.
  • I am glad to hear about what Linus talked about. As others posted here before, the faster stable kernel deployment will be good for us "Joes" and distros. One new thing I am glad to have learned is USB support. I could really care less about it but I see its significance and I realize others really like it.

    I really should get off my duff and attend some kind of Linux gathering or show. I could have gone to some L.U.G.s but the ones in my area were on Friday nights... I can't swing with that.
    -Clump

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