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Debian 2.1 Release Party 52

At 00:00:00AM UTC, (7PM EST, and 4PM PST for you lucky bastards at LWCE) Debian will release Debian 2.1, codenamed "Slink". Slink has been frozen for four months, and was almost skipped. Right now, we are celebrating the release on irc.openprojects.net, #debian. Last time we had over 300 people in one channel, and had an incredible amount of fun. Order CDs and check out the party HQ at netgod.net. Be there or be square! Update: 03/02 06:47 by J : Looks as though the release has been delayed another week. An announcement should be on the web site soon.
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Debian 2.1 Release Party

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  • They didn't. KDE is in contrib only. (contrib = repository for software which depends on non-free, afaik)
  • Easy-to-upgrade is Debian's middle name, and has been for ages. If there's one *really* solid advantage that Debian has had over the other distros, it's the ease of upgrading.

    That said, the new apt tool makes installing and upgrading even easier than it was in earlier versions of Debian.
  • I agree with previous replies to your message. My experience has been that Red Hat doesn't configure as nicely as Debian and seems far less stable.

    Debian is also much easier to install, in my opinion. Red Hat only gives you Disk Druid (isn't very nice to use) and plain-old fdisk - not even cfdisk (which is much easier to use).

    Red Hat seems to "do their own thing" more than Debian, who adheres to the GNU/Linux ethos better. I know this sounds "religious" but Debian is just so much better in so many ways that I would never consider Red Hat.
  • Shoo troll, don't bother me..
    Shoo troll, don't bother me..
    Shoo troll, don't bother me..
  • Install apt (you really just need the hamm version AFAIK) and then type "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade". If you want you can upgrade apt first: "apt-get update && apt-get install apt && apt-get dist-upgrade".
  • Correct me if I'm wrong by Potatoe is the British Spelling of the word and is still valid... However it is still spelled "Potato" for titles sake if anything
  • The test iso's are exactly that --- test images.

    The real ones are being built right now, but it takes a while, and obviously could not start until the mirror had updated, which also took a while.

    If you already have the test images, the final ones should be fairly close to those, so help save some bandwidth by using rsync to get the new ones.

    slink1 is most of main's binaries

    slink2 is the rest of main, and the contrib binaries

    slink 3 & 4 are the source.

    check out http://www.debian.org/distrib/vendors for alternate vendors.

    Being realistic, it'll probably take 24 hours before the CD images get out to most of the mirrors, so please bear with us.

    Cheers, Phil.
  • Check out the X Strike Force [debian.org] homepage.


    Branden has been very busy getting X in good shape for slink; now that slink is almost released, he
    can start focussing on potato, and move to 3.3.3.1.

  • hamm/hamm/upgrade-i386/apt_0.1.4.bo_i386.deb
    dists/slink/main/upgrade-2.0-i386/apt_0.1.8_i386 .deb


    The first is for upgrading from bo, to hamm. The 2nd is for upgrading hamm to slink.


  • Ok, cut-n pasted the wrong package...


    However... to save some shred of my tattered reputation...


    rpm -q -f /sbin/fdisk


    util-linux-2.8-11


    I'll be shuffling off to shoot myself now.



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    mphall@cstone.nospam.net
    "Give me $20 worth of pudding, or kill me."

  • rpm -q -f /sbin/cfdisk


    util-linux-2.8-11


    In turn, from the RH 5.2 distro disc:


    310971 Oct 14 07:38 util-linux-2.8-11.i386.rpm


    There.


    Now I'm going to lunch with my girlfriend, who's existence I can't prove with cut-n-paste (you just have to take it on faith, which I fault no one reading for not having) and forget this morning.



    ----------
    mphall@cstone.nospam.net
    "Give me $20 worth of pudding, or kill me."

  • I'd like to thank the universal powers at large for making my life worth living again.

    I now can upgrade "apt-get update," "apt-get upgrade."

    I can install, "overnight me the cd's netgod!"

    I will walk the earth like Cain and install the coolest linux ever.

    FREEDOM BABY... YEEEEAAAAHHHHH!!!!

    When I'm done playing with my slink, I'm on gonna get my potato.

    --self-proclaimed linux monk....
  • not funny
  • I want to switch from Red Hat 5.1 to Debian, but I don't have time to break everything and spend days fixing it. How easy is it to make this sort of thing "just work"?

    Probably my best bet is to install debian onto a seperate partition and mount my existing install within it... Damn, think I just answered my own question ;)

    The issue remains, though, for people who don't have a spare partition on their drives...

    Stuart.
  • 1) Their reluctance to make iso cd images readilly available for non-production releases (slink, potato).

    I think that if you have a local mirror, that there is a package designed to make iso images from that mirror. I always do ftp installs, so I'm not certain of the procedure. Anything I need for an initial install I can download overnight; my house gateway runs diald, so disconnects aren't an issue, either.

    2) The fact that X is still at 3.3.2

    As someone who just yesterday installed a 3.3.3.1-only card in a slink system with X3.3.2, all I had to do was to download the new 3DLabs X server from Xfree86.org, stick it /usr/local/bin, and change my Xservers config file to use it instead of the stock SVGA one.

    4) The installation is still a chore -- numerous questions to answer, etc.

    Work in progress. The planning time in designing a database that won't need to be ripped out right after potato is extensive.

    5) No convinient way to build machines "in batch"

    dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections, I think, handle these. Or, you could simply use the old tar/untar pipe procedure.

  • It says in the 'future release' type section of their plans that 2.2.1 source is included although the distro is based around 2.0.36. Is anyone using a pre-copy, and what needs to be done to fully upgrade to 2.2 (and to upgrade to glibc 2.1 whenever it is rereleased?)

  • Slink (Debian 2.1) has been delayed 1 week.
  • Time to upgrade. Glad I'm back on T1.

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