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Operating Systems Red Hat Software Upgrades Linux

CentOS Linux Version 7 Released On x86_64 125

Posted by Unknown Lamer from the keeping-costs-down dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Today, CentOS project unveiled CentOS Linux 7 for 64 bit x86 compatible machines. CentOS conforms fully with Red Hat's redistribution policy and aims to have full functional compatibility with the upstream product released in last month. The new version includes systemd, firewalld, GRUB2, LXC, docker, xfs instead of ext4 filesystem by default. The Linux kernel updated to 3.10.0, support for Linux Containers, 3d graphics drivers out of the box, OpenJDK 7, support for 40G Ethernet cards, installations in UEFI secure Boot mode on compatible hardware and more. See the complete list of features here and here. You can grab this release by visiting the official mirror site or via torrents. On a related note there is also a CentOS Linux 7 installation screencast here."
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  • One init (Score:3, Funny)

    by ald_a ( 265781 ) on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @05:13AM (#47405817)

    One init to rule them all
    One init to bind them...

    The init from mordor has been deployed to all linux distributions.
    Next step: take over the kernel.

    • ...from mordor...

      You say that as if it were a bad thing. [wikipedia.org]

      • Given the disconnects between the documentation and actual operation, it is a bad thing. At least that's true for Fedora's take on systemd. I tried to come up with a work-alike of a System V set-up script, and found some issues. Yes, I posted a bug report. No, nothing has happened with that bug report.

        We'll see if Centos/RHEL did a better documentation job.

        • Given the disconnects between the documentation and actual operation, it is a bad thing.

          Did the posting to which you're responding mention systemd? Hint: the answer is "no"; it only mentions Mordor, and questions whether "from Mordor" is a bad thing or if it was the victim of a propaganda campaign (see the book to which the page I linked refers).

          (Feel free to moderate that posting down as "Offtopic", instead.)

      • Re: One init (Score:5, Funny)

        by jd2112 ( 1535857 ) on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @11:28AM (#47407465)
        One does not simply cd into /mordor

    • We are the knights who say... init!

  • Community ENTerprise so pronounced like KENT?

    Or like a cent (penny) sounding like SENT?

  • I've been using Scientific Linux because it was slightly more up-to-date than CentOS at the time I installed my server.

  • x86_64 is just a fad (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Itanium is the future!

  • Desktop Repos? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Are there any plans for additional desktop package repos for any of the Redhat based distros? I Remember looking for a little while a year or two ago but I didn't find any.

    • Re: (Score:1, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Mac OS X made 2001 the Year of BSD on the Desktop. Quit beating a dead penguin already.

    • >Are there any plans for additional desktop package repos for any of the Redhat based distros? I Remember looking for a little while a year or two ago but I didn't find any.

      Yes actually, It comes with KDE or Gnome out of the box.

  • 32bit ISOs = GONE (Score:5, Informative)

    by 00Monkey ( 264977 ) on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @06:51AM (#47406033) Homepage

    Just in case others weren't aware, there will no longer be 32 bit ISO images of RHEL or CentOS. So, you'll only have the option of 64 bit from this point forward. You can always install an older release, of course.

    Here's somewhat of an explanation from Red Hat: https://access.redhat.com/solutions/509373

    I'm curious how this will affect me. I've been doing a lot of CentOS based Asterisk systems. Last time I checked, Digium absolutely would not support the 64 bit version of their drivers and so it was recommended to use 32 bit if you want support. It could have changed by now, I'll have to look into it again.

    • 32bit ISOs = GONE (Score:5, Informative)

      by hughesjr ( 734512 ) on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @07:16AM (#47406093) Homepage
      That is only partially true .. RHEL 7 does not have an i386 version. However, CentOS does plan to have one as a secondary arch ... IF ... we can get it to build: http://lists.centos.org/piperm... [centos.org]
      • PC-BSD has also dropped x86-32 support.

      • Hoping it goes through.. I can simply use Mint 17 Mate as an "LTS" but why not have a try at stuff from the other side of the fence, for once. And btw not only old 32bit PC still are working and usable.. with e.g. 3GB memory or even 4GB, using 32bit OS instead of 64bit OS can be slightly useful. Firefox is nerfed at 2GB instead of consuming all memory + swap.

      • Apple also dropped 32-bit support. My vintage 2006 Black MacBook is forever stuck on Snow Leopard. O_o

        • Hey then why don't you install Fedora on it? =)

          • I'm still running Photoshop CS3 and a few other Mac-specific applications on the MacBook. When I get new Mac hardware later this year, I'll move the programs over. I'm planning to retire the MacBook as a console terminal for my Cisco certification rack. Maybe I'll install Fedora then.

    • You've missed the latest kernel commit. (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @07:50AM (#47406197)

      #if _FP_W_TYPE_SIZE < 64
      #error "Here's a nickel kid. Go buy yourself a real computer."
      #endif

    • I understand why you and others who have relied on 32bit versions; either because of driver or application requirements.

      That said, I believe that by going to only 64bit versions, it will actually make everything easier in the long run.

      Here is how I would anticipate things playing out. You're going to have to sit on a current 32bit version for now, but this will lead to Digium (or a 3rd party) building out supported 64bit drivers to remain relevant. This will allow you to run the same kernel versions

  • Pity about systemd (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    systemd has delivered the death blow ... thanks for nothing RedHat.

    • Re:Pity about systemd (Score:5, Insightful)

      by kthreadd ( 1558445 ) on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @07:23AM (#47406121)

      I for one have found it very pleasing to use, but if you want to give up on an entire operating system based on its init system then all I can say is good luck.

      • Re:Pity about systemd (Score:4, Insightful)

        by dbIII ( 701233 ) on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @10:19AM (#47406933)
        It can be argued that an OS really isn't much more than a kernel and init with everything else as userspace.
        • I would enjoy my popcorn watching the the argument between the neckbeards and the whippersnappers on that one.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

          It can be argued that an OS really isn't much more than a kernel and init with everything else as userspace.

          init isn't all that special to begin with, either. It just happens that it's something the kernel looks for when spawning the first userspace process.

          Other than that, it's just a regular program. Linux has a fallback to /bin/sh if it can't start init for some reason, but you can have the kernel launch any other binary as the first process.

          Of course, if you're complaining about systemd, check out Andro

      • One little thing I wonder about.. will services/daemons eventually be as easy to disable, enable etc. as under Windows 2000/XP? It's a bit hilarious that almost fifteen years ago any kid could deal with that by mousing around but for me (user, perhaps basic sysadmin of debian/buntu systems) dealing with /etc/rc?.d and inetd / xinetd is very hard. I don't remember if I was even able to prevent a dhcpd from starting** and the day I needed something added there, I added some crap in one of the rc.d/ but it did

  • The summary mentions OpenJDK 7 as something new in 7. Just want to print out that both 5 and 6 has support for OpenJDK 7 as well.

    • Yes, but in older versions of CentOS, the system software was compiled using older versions and the 1.7.0 was avilable.

      In this version, the system RPMs are compiled against 1.7.0 and 1.6.0 is available for compatibility.

  • I am very interested in graduating beyond CentOS 6.x. The GNOME2 thing annoys me where compatibility with GIMP is concerned. A few other issues in its lacking up-to-date-edness as well. And I know that's the point of RHEL/CentOS so I have remained somewhat comfortable with it. But Damn that GNOME/GTK/GIMP issue. One or more of those people should work this out because the problem, while presently not applicable under CentOS7, it has the potential to return as their practices and philosophy haven't chan

  • Caution you dual booters... (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    I read the release notes about GRUB2 and thought to myself, it's a boot loader, how much could it have changed? The answer? Quite a lot, actually! That's why the CentOS 7 installer won't even give you the option to configure booting anything other then CentOS 7! Don't get burned... do your research on /etc/grub.d and /etc/default/grub so you'll stand half a chance of being able to boot back into Windows.

  • I had a number of occasions in which I tried Centos as server, but for its expandability I much prefer Ubuntu, especially the new 14.04 LTS that has several cosmetic improvements.

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