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Torvalds: SteamOS Will 'Really Help' Linux On the Desktop 304

Posted by Soulskill
from the year-of-linux-on-the-steambox dept.
nk497 writes "Linus Torvalds has welcomed the arrival of Valve's Linux-based platform, SteamOS, and said it could boost Linux on desktops. The Linux creator praised Valve's 'vision' and suggested its momentum would force other manufacturers to take Linux seriously — especially if game developers start to ditch Windows. Should SteamOS gain traction among gamers and developers, that could force more hardware manufacturers to extend driver support beyond Windows. That's a sore point for Torvalds, who slammed Nvidia last year for failing to support open-source driver development for its graphics chips. Now that SteamOS is on the way, Nvidia has opened up to the Linux community, something Torvalds predicts is a sign of things to come. 'I'm not just saying it'll help us get traction with the graphics guys,' he said. 'It'll also force different distributors to realize if this is how Steam is going, they need to do the same thing because they can't afford to be different in this respect. They want people to play games on their platform too.'"
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Torvalds: SteamOS Will 'Really Help' Linux On the Desktop

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  • Re:Not happening (Score:5, Informative)

    by crashcy (2839507) on Wednesday October 23, 2013 @02:34PM (#45215121)
    Steam already does sell non-game software: Steam Software []
  • Re:I don't think so (Score:5, Informative)

    by forkazoo (138186) <> on Wednesday October 23, 2013 @02:39PM (#45215191) Homepage

    Yeah, exactly like how Tivo buyers were all open source advocates, and Apple TV buyers are primarily interested in the fact that the kernel has posix API's. Though, there may be a small group of SteamBox buyers who buy it mainly because of playing games, and don't really care about what OS it runs.

  • by Lendrick (314723) on Wednesday October 23, 2013 @03:02PM (#45215571) Homepage Journal

    The FSF was mixed [] about Steam for GNU/Linux. Since most of the issues remain the same with SteamOS, I'm guessing that their opinion on it will be similar.

    For obvious reasons, they're never going to endorse anything that's partly proprietary, but it it moves people away from dependence on completely proprietary systems, in there view it's possible that there might be some benefit. The FSF isn't so hardline that they refuse to acknowledge the distinction between software that's mostly free versus software that's completely proprietary.

    From the article I linked:

    However, if you're going to use these games, you're better off using them on GNU/Linux rather than on Microsoft Windows. At least you avoid the harm to your freedom that Windows would do.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 23, 2013 @03:14PM (#45215791)

    If you're trying to teach yourself software development, or you're a kid, or you just don't have $500 or $800 or whatever the hell it costs, then Mingw is the only thing that lets you even try. .

    Visual Studio Express is free.

  • Re: Netflix (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 23, 2013 @03:16PM (#45215835)

    Yeah, great, but.... you have run silverlight based app via Wine, so it is kind of wierdly possible.. SteamOS can bring native Linux Netflix, at least there's hope.

  • Re:Not happening (Score:5, Informative)

    by Grishnakh (216268) on Wednesday October 23, 2013 @03:57PM (#45216409)

    The console crowd doesn't get to take advantage of PC hardware the way PC games do. Have you ever seen an Xbox hooked up to two or three monitors?

    This is an alternative for PC gamers who might like to dump Windows and use an OS better suited for their games, coming from a company that already makes a lot of popular games. The people who will buy this thing are people who use PCs and are fans of Valve games.

    The Linux fanboys don't need to buy the SteamBox; they'll just use their existing custom PC and run Steam on that, like they're already doing. This will merely help improve support for Steam on the Linux platform by getting the gfx card makers to better support Linux.

  • Re:Not happening (Score:4, Informative)

    by t4ng* (1092951) on Wednesday October 23, 2013 @04:22PM (#45216751)
    Never mind. Kernel preemption was added in 2.6. Good for them.
  • by Blakey Rat (99501) on Wednesday October 23, 2013 @04:48PM (#45217143)

    Paint.NET may not have as many features as GIMP, but it's equally free and not even close to as painful to use.

    Visual Studio has had a no-strings-attached free version since, what, 2003? Retire the obsolete FUD please.

  • Re: Netflix (Score:2, Informative)

    by iroll (717924) on Wednesday October 23, 2013 @05:07PM (#45217367) Homepage

    I spent a few hours trying to get that to work on Debian, and I couldn't. I'm a rank amateur, but usually I can get stuff working, given enough time and Google. Part of the problem was that I wasn't starting from scratch; I tried using the Netflix app that some guy rolled together with WineSkin, targetting Ubuntu. Still...

    And his point stands: if they can get Netflix working on Android, there's really no good reason they couldn't put something together for Linux in general.

  • Re: Netflix (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 23, 2013 @06:57PM (#45218473)

    Android has a DRM (digital restriction management) subsystem. The linux standard based does not.

I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when you looked at it in the right way, did not become still more complicated. -- Poul Anderson