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Knoppix 7.2 Released 53

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hypnosec writes "Knoppix 7.2 has been released for public testing — unlike its predecessor, Knoppix 7.1, which was only made available through the annual Linux Magazine CeBIT edition. Based on Debian "Wheezy", Knoppix 7.2 packs quite a few new features, including newer desktop packages from Debian/testing and Debian/unstable Jessie. The latest version uses the Linux 3.9 kernel and xorg 7.7, and comes loaded with LibreOffice 4.0, GIMP 2.8, Chromium 27 (and Firefox/Iceweasel 21), Wine 1.5, and Virtualbox version 4.2.10. It uses LXDE by default. For users who still want to go for KDE or GNOME, version 4.8.4 and 3.4.2 of the respective desktops are available from the Knoppix DVD."
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Knoppix 7.2 Released

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  • by TheModelEskimo (968202) on Thursday June 27, 2013 @06:10PM (#44127245)
    I remember using Knoppix for the first time in 2004. I was super excited about finally finding a Linux distro that would work out of the box on one of my PCs. Almost 10 years later, it's impressive that Knoppix still occupies its niche--a portable desktop environment for use in emergencies or when you need such a thing without leaving a footprint.
    • Yep. KNOPPIX will always be special to me, because not only was it one of the first distributions I tried, it made doing so and learning the basics of Linux a breeze. Burn a disc, reboot. Explore, learn. Reboot again and you're back in your regular OS (for me, Windows at the time). I learned a lot from KNOPPIX, back when virtual machines weren't common or as easily possible. I think some of the oldest versions I tried were 3.3 and 3.4... which corresponds to 2004 on Distrowatch, which is when I first

    • by Inda (580031)
      Must resist... Bugger it... Me too!!!

      I think I was running Windows98 at the time and I had a mighty 2x speed CDR with no buffer underrun.

      Within a few minutes of booting I had the browser running, my favourite forum open and I'd posted a screengrab of the desktop plus a few windows. I was very impressed.

      It's a shame I haven't had the same experience since with teh many laptops I've tried it on, and with other live CDs. I understand WiFi has always been a bugger to get working...
  • by andrewa (18630) on Thursday June 27, 2013 @06:20PM (#44127331)
    I had a Knoppix CD with me several years ago and got stranded in an airport for around 8 hours due to a cancelled flight. At this time free wi-fi was no prevalent, even in the airport lounges. However the carrier decided to let me in to their lounge and enjoy the facilities during the long wait. Inside the lounge were a bank of computers that users could buy internet time on for some exorbitant fee. However, they had no security around them and the CD drive and BIOS were freely accessible. Thank you Knoppix for a few hours of free internet.... :-)
    • by greg1104 (461138)

      Hack into a computer at a US airport like this, and in addition to free WiFi they'll include a free trip to Cuba [wikipedia.org]!

      • by andrewa (18630)
        :-) Thank goodness it was at Heathrow then! Though I trust the British government (mine) about as much as I trust the US government....
  • Since I discovered Knoppix so many years ago I lost count now, I've never been without a disc. It's come in useful for such diverse projects as forensic recovery prep to running full-install desktops on a variety of gear. Including the most kickarse Dell Dimension upgrade I've ever done, which was basically a new board, dual quad-Xeon, 16GB of RAM, twelve-head video with 4GB GDDR3 between four cards, and so many flight controllers, pedals and freakish-looking throttle controls I began to wonder if I was bu

  • I love Knoppix as my boot to DVD linux. I'm have a Macbook retina which means no internal DVD. I'd like to have Linux that boots. I've tried some of the EFI solutions... Does anyone have a Linux that works well on the retina for USB boot? Is there some variant of Knoppix that's tested to work?

    • by WheezyJoe (1168567) <fegg.excite@com> on Thursday June 27, 2013 @06:58PM (#44127593)
      I think you're in luck. From Knippix's home site: [knopper.net]

      Experimental support for UEFI-Boot (DVD: 32 and 64bit, CD: only 32bit) after installation on USB flash disk.

      In order to create a bootable USB-medium (memory flashdisk, SD-card, digital camera with USB connector, cellphone with microSD, ...), the program flash-knoppix can be started from a running Knoppix system. This program installs all needed Knoppix files onto the FAT-formatted flashdisk, and creates a boot record for it. If desired, the target medium can be partitioned and fornatted, or left in its inistal state, so that existing files stay intact. The KNOPPIX Live System starts and runs about factor 5 faster from USB flash disk than from CD or DVD!

      It looks like you have to get a Knoppix system running first before you create the thumb drive, but with your Mac all that requires is a little time with Virtual Box [virtualbox.org] (or equivalent). Give it a try and post the results!

      • not even that... you can boot a Macbook Pro from an optical drive (or mounted disc image shared virtual drive) on another computer (I would assume this feature is platform-independent) over ethernet!

      • by jbolden (176878)

        I have another Mac with a drive I can use for installation so I can do the DVD test. I'll let you know how it goes.

      • by jbolden (176878)

        Well test is complete.

        The installation does work. The instructions are a bit sparse but it allows you to both a KNOPPIX image and a linux file system for extra storage. All the space needs to be consumed though I assume afterwards you can adjust that. The EFI did boot an older iMac fine but did not boot my rMBP. When Knoppix booted from USB I had a weird German / English hybrid that was hard to use (some items in English, keyboard was German...) so it doesn't appear to have completely preserved language

    • by greg1104 (461138)

      Ubuntu has been bootable on a Mac from a USB drive for a while. Before 12.04.2 it was harder to then install the system sometimes. See UEFI [ubuntu.com] for comments on what changed. Everything should work at this point on versions after that one. Recent changes in Knoppix should allow this latest version to work too. There are a lot more people working on Mac support in Ubuntu than Knoppix though.

      If you have a PC system available, it's helpful to test booting there, so you can be sure the drive is fine before movi

      • by jbolden (176878)

        I saw all the Ubuntu stuff and tried but I couldn't get it to work. Ubunut worked fine on older Macs but not on the retina. Also tried various rEFI loaders. The problem I had was most of the rEFIs didn't work well with the Linux images so they couldn't boot Linux and the Linux boot loaders couldn't be configured properly. I definite felt like I was close but I'd love a slightly more "all in one" type solution. If it has gotten better good, otherwise I'm SOL as far as Ubuntu solutions.

        It is a bit frustr

  • Amazing (Score:2, Redundant)

    by The Cat (19816) *

    It's 2013 and Windows can still shit the bed without any recovery method except reinstalling or (maybe) Linux.

    P.S. Microsoft spent $100 billion developing Windows.

    • I've had a Windows 7 laptop since March 2010 and the only time it has ever shit the bed is on four occasions where I've done three things at the same time:
      1. clocked the memory (6GB is hard to eat when all you're doing is downsampling video, though I've managed to do it by having well over a hundred Virtualdub sessions going at the same time)
      2. overheated the processor (by "overheated" read: software monitor readout said 95+ Celsius. I didn't think an AMD E-350 could get that hot and live!)
      3. started World

    • by Anonymous Coward

      What's wrong with the system recovery methods included with Windows? It has always puzzled me how people can be so smart in one thing and so dumb or closed minded or whatever in another. I guess that's the definition of a troll but it's embarrassing in a semi-technical forum.

      • by The Cat (19816) *

        What's wrong with the methods? You mean aside from the fact they don't work?

        Aside from the fact I still can't partition a disk with a Windows install DVD? Aside from the fact that Windows can't recognize a disk partitioned with anything else, including its own partition software?

        Windows is a gigantic shit-sucking vortex of fuckwhizzy. It always has been and it always will be. Windows is the worst thing that has ever happened to the human race. It is a blasphemous horned blot on the cosmos. It is the a

  • flash-knoppix (Score:4, Interesting)

    by tuppe666 (904118) on Thursday June 27, 2013 @07:35PM (#44127933)

    ...Ok I am really missing something. I used to love knoppix, but now everything is a live CD. I am as likely to quickly get a copy of Ubuntu Live CD running off a stick to get up and running quickly.(although this does have the advantage of having mdadm on the disk). In fact a full installation of Ubuntu onto a pen drive is more useful.

    There is not much information about flash-knoppix, and how it is different from say "startup disk creator"...and I noticed this from the text description "In order to create a bootable USB-medium (memory flashdisk, SD-card, digital camera with USB connector, cellphone with microSD, ...)," Okay I have never thought about using the MicroSD in my cell phone that is incredibly cool.

    • I disagree; everything is most definitely not a live CD. And while just about everything *provides* a live CD these days, it tends to be an option and I always levitate toward the more "traditional" installer CD/DVD. I'm not a fan of live CDs as installation discs; never was. As a live CD, KNOPPIX whips Ubuntu in performance and resource usage... it's no comparison.

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