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Mageia 3 Released 89

Posted by timothy
from the linux-mandrake-back-to-the-future dept.
Freshly Exhumed writes "Forked from Mandriva Linux back in 2010, Mageia Linux has hit a new release milestone. Trish at the Mageia blog announces: 'All grown up and ready to go dancing: Mageia 3's out! We still can't believe how much fun it is to make Mageia together, and we've been doing it for two and a half years. For people who can't wait, get it here; release notes are here. To upgrade from Mageia 2, see here.'" Adds reader hduff: "It offers cutting edge and stable versions of your favorite applications and desktop environments as well as a version of the STEAM gaming software."
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Mageia 3 Released

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    Am I the only one who thought this was the name of a game?

    • Re: (Score:1, Offtopic)

      by lennier1 (264730)

      Same here, though it's probably because I personally prefer the Debian area of the Linux family tree (currently Mint (Xfce) on Desktops and Debian on servers).

    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 20, 2013 @05:58AM (#43772193)

      All went down the drain when they changed the name from mystical "Mandrake" to "Mandriva", which sounds like the name of a night club for french gay vampires.

      • by greg1104 (461138) <gsmith@gregsmith.com> on Monday May 20, 2013 @07:16AM (#43772309) Homepage

        "Mandriva", which sounds like the name of a night club for french gay vampires.

        Still a better love story than Twi...actually, that's almost the same story.

      • by fnj (64210)

        What possesses a distro to do this? Sure, the name SHOULD be a minor thing, but it isn't really minor.

        • by gl4ss (559668)

          What possesses a distro to do this? Sure, the name SHOULD be a minor thing, but it isn't really minor.

          all the cool normal names are already taken.

          so it was either mandriva, acorn or the gruntmaster 6000 that they had to change to.

          • by takshaka (15297)

            They would've called it Tasticles, but that sounds too much like those frozen Rocky Mountain Oysters on a stick.

        • by Lord Kano (13027)

          From what I remember they were looking at getting sued by the family of Mandrake the magician and when they merged with connectiva, it was the perfect time for a name change.

          LK

          • by lennier1 (264730) on Monday May 20, 2013 @02:34PM (#43775349)

            Considering Mandrake is a comic character, that's quite an achievement! ;)
            But you're right, it was because of a lawsuit from the Hearst Corporation (their comic subsidiary also holds the rights to The Phantom, Flash Gordon, Popeye and a ton of other classic stuff).

            • by Lord Kano (13027)

              I should have taken the time to Google it but yes, it was pretty obvious that they were intruding on someone else's trademarked material.

              LK

              • by fnj (64210)

                It sure as BLOODY HELL isn't obvious to me. See above. If you mean that using a little magician icon was where the infringement occurred, surely that could have been trivially changed without changing the name of the distro.

                • by Lord Kano (13027)

                  OK. So why would the distribution named Mandrake use a top hat and magic wand as their logo as well as producing a tool called Lothar (Mandrake's in comic friend) if they weren't referencing the comic book character with their efforts?

                  LK

            • by fnj (64210)

              Wouldn't the EFF have something to say (i.e., DO!) about a frivolous suit like that? A mandrake is a particular plant of the nightshade family. Hearst can maybe register the name as a trademark in a particular limited context such as comic strips, but not throughout the entire spectrum of commerce. Sheesh.

              Do we really think that because Dial Soap is a trademark, nobody can refer to instrument indicators as "dials", or that nobody can set up the Ame Speedometer Dial company?

      • All went down the drain when they changed the name from mystical "Mandrake" to "Mandriva", which sounds like the name of a night club for french gay vampires.

        They had to change from Mandrake for copyright reasons. At the same time, they acquired a "-iva" named Brazian distro and combined the names. When the asshats running Mandriva were about to tank the distro, many developers jumped ship and named the new spinoff Mageia, carrying on the Mandrake-ish "magic" theme. None of them ever claimed to be marketing geniuses and histiory has validdated that. It's a shame for such a good, solid distro.

        Here's some more background on what makes Mageia unique.
        http://maximumh [blogspot.com]

      • by roc97007 (608802)

        Wasn't that a recent movie franchise?

    • by gfxguy (98788)

      I'm sick of the names, actually, but at least it's "Mageia 3" and not some totally new name, like everybody else seems to be doing. I guess it's hip and cool to give names like Ubuntu does, but I don't care enough to remember the names - if you're going to call it "dumbass dingo," fine, but tell me what version you're actually talking about or it's nonsense.

      I used Mandrake way back when, but right now I use Ubuntu - although I used straight Debian, too, for a while. I'm just wondering "Why Mageia," and I

      • by sconeu (64226)

        At the time, Mandriva was in serious financial trouble (but then, when was it ever not so?). And they had just announced yet another change in direction.

        Mandriva seemed directionless, etc... so the Mageia team forked.

        • by gfxguy (98788)
          Ok, but what do they bring to the table over, for example, Ubuntu?
          • by Anonymous Coward
            Mandrake was Linux for People Who Don't Use Computers before Ubuntu came along and took over that role.
    • by Lord Kano (13027)

      I thought of the cross dressing matriarch in a new generation of black exploitation films.

      LK

  • Thanks to all! (Score:2, Informative)

    by valatar (856724)

    As a Mageia packager, I can report that it was indeed really fun and enriching working on Mageia 3.
    We have to thank the whole friendly community, which provided code, tests, reports, fixes, documentation, translations, comments and donations. Our goal is to make a great community distribution for everyone, with an emphasis on the ease of use and on empowering users and making them part of a community.
    We hope you'll like it if you give it a try!
    Now let's start the work on support and on Mageia 4.

    • by coats (1068)
      I really appreciate the job you've done.

      As a software developer myself (software engineering for environmental modeling; high performance computing), the one thing I do wish for is more "devel" and "static-devel" library packages.

      Which is one of the bones I have to pick with RedHat, by the way: it feels as though they've gone out of their way to make cross-distro software development difficult.

      • by valatar (856724)

        Well, we would love to welcome you in the packager team!
        We run an apprenticeship program to get you up to date with our infrastructure and policies, and off you go, adding and maintaining packages yourself for the benefit of all!
        Otherwise, please open bug reports in the category "new package requests", so that we know what is missing for your use. Cheers!

    • by unixisc (2429386)
      One question - is it possible to have both .rpm and .deb supported in a distro? Since most software that is available for Linux is usually available in one package or the other but usually not both?
      • by valatar (856724)

        There is no point supporting .rpm and .deb in the distro. The point of packaging is to be consistant in scripts, dependencies, etc. The archive format is not that relevant. Suse and Mageia and Fedora use rpm, but the packages are not usually interoperable. Ubuntu, Mint, Debian have somehow compatible packages, but it is not because of the deb format, it is because they are all Debian-based and follow its policies.
        To answer your question, this is the job of packagers like me to take upstream software and mak

        • by MROD (101561)
          Actually, other than a very few packages, I've not had any problems installing "generic" RPM packages on Mandriva or Mageia.

          The biggest problem comes with dependencies which have different names, in which case you manually install the correct packages before forcefully installing the RPM with --ignore-deps.

          Working in a scientific environment there are sometimes you just have to do this as the RPMs are only available for RHEL and nothing else.
  • by Wowsers (1151731) on Monday May 20, 2013 @09:16AM (#43772783) Journal

    I've been a tester (and Mageia user) since before Mageia 1 was released, having decided to take the plunge in the new forked distro instead of staying with Mandriva.

    I think the distro is working well especially considering it's small community. Only recent "controversial" changes have been like changing the log files from easy read text files to binary rubbish, but I think many distros are doing that now, and using the new Grub2 still needs some ironing out of small issues.

  • I'm generally an openSUSE/PCBSD/Bodhi guy, but I just wiped the computer clean last week and thought I'd take the opportunity to install something new, for fun. I installed Mageia 2, not realizing it was about to be replaced.

    Conclusion: good distro! It installed cleanly/easily, had a good-looking KDE4 desktop with sensible defaults, and was intuitive and easy to use. The DVD came with a lot of software on it, but once I initialized the repositories I was able to find every package i need except one.

    To th

    • by hduff (570443)

      They're also building a pretty good quality, constructive and helpful community - that counts a lot. Their forums are useful and full of helpful people, all there for a reason.

      Good distro, would install again. A+

      I've used it since Mandrake 5.1, as well as SuSE, RedHat, Fedora and Ubuntu. It beats those hands down for usability, friendliness and hardware support. It offers terrible decorative/desktop graphics, however, but those have been easy enough to change. Their URPMI wrapper to RPM makes RPM useable and essentially trouble-free.

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