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OpenSUSE 12.3 Is Out 62

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houghi writes "OpenSUSE 12.3 is out. There are several methods of downloading, as well as different media. It is also possible to boot the live CD from a USB stick. When using the DVD or Net install ISO, the standard is to select between KDE or GNOME, but XFCE and LXDE are also options. ARM images are available as well. More information about the release can be found in this feature guide."
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OpenSUSE 12.3 Is Out

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  • Favorite Distro (Score:5, Informative)

    by TheNinjaroach (878876) on Wednesday March 13, 2013 @04:26PM (#43163367)
    I've been using OpenSUSE + KDE as my primary workhorse since 9.1. There have been some bumps along the way, but the 12.x series has been rock solid.

    Thanks to everyone who contributes to OpenSUSE!
    • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 13, 2013 @04:56PM (#43163743)

      I've been using OpenSUSE + KDE as my primary workhorse since 9.1. There have been some bumps along the way, but the 12.x series has been rock solid.

      Thanks to everyone who contributes to OpenSUSE!

      Nice try, Linus.

    • by Ecuador (740021)

      Interesting. I' ve also been using SuSE + KDE since 9.1 (there was no OpenSUSE back then IIRC), having switched from Debian. But with every 10.x version I would get more and more problems. A multi-monitor system that was working great with the previous version would require hours of work to run properly with the latest. Laptops where everything ran smoothly would exhibit problems with newer versions. I continued hoping a newer version would magically solve my problems and give me the stability and functiona

      • I had great luck with the 10.x series - especially 10.3 stands out as one of my favorite versions ever, including multi-monitor support. On the other hand, I had a terrible time with the entire 11.x series until 11.4. OpenSUSE, like everyone else, started using KDE4 before they should have.

        12.1 is my current production OS for my work laptop - nearly flawless but for this one pesky bug [kde.org] that I reported (and developed a workaround for) long ago. Multi-monitor works very well for me with the workaround, but I
      • I've been with openSUSE since the 8.x days and I've had multi-monitor the entire time. As I recall, 10.3 was good, as was 11.1 and 11.4. 12.3 has been excellent so far, especially since it is really more of a service pack for 12.2.

    • by GoJays (1793832)
      I had some issues with 12.2, so couldn't wait to upgrade to 12.3. But you are right, 12.x has been good for the most part. Another solid release was 11.3, because KDE 4 was then starting to mature. 11.0 was horrible, KDE4 was not ready for the spotlight and was very buggy.

      My upgrade went fine except for the usual video driver nonsense. I think I have yet to have an upgrade where X doesn't crash on first boot due to the nVidia driver. After manually reinstalling the nVidia driver, replacing my /etc/X

  • by dugjohnson (920519) on Wednesday March 13, 2013 @04:38PM (#43163515) Homepage
    Will it be called Francis?
  • by AaronW (33736) on Wednesday March 13, 2013 @04:45PM (#43163583) Homepage

    OpenSUSE 12.2 has been rock solid for me and I can't wait to move to 12.3. Of all the distributions I've tried OpenSUSE seems to have the best KDE support.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      12.2 has been so great, I'm actually not rushing off to upgrade just yet! I'll try it on my virtualbox setup first.

      • by TheNinjaroach (878876) on Wednesday March 13, 2013 @05:44PM (#43164351)
        I'm in the same boat with 12.1 - I won't upgrade it until the hard disk dies!
        • by richlv (778496)

          i've moved to opensuse on the laptop. lately i upgrade every two releases, just to keep fiddling with working system to minimum, while still running a relatively recent release. as i'm currently at 12.1... next week it's upgrade time ;)

        • Don't forget the Evergreen project for extended support then. I just started using it with a 11.4 box a couple of months back and so far, so good.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        I upgraded right away because I've been waiting for KDE 4.10 and Mesa 9 (for Intel graphics). IMO, KDE 4.10 is the largest KDE improvement so far (it looks great, and seems to perform better.)

        That said, the dist-upgrade did forget to run grub2-mkconfig, which is a bit annoying. It might just be my system though because I think it did that for the 12.2 upgrade as well.

    • I'm looking forward to 12.3 as well. However, like all updates, I'll probably wait a month or so before actually doing it in case of any residual bugs. Then again, I tend to do do that with any OS, whether it be some flavour of Linux, Windows, or OS X.

  • windows 8 (Score:4, Funny)

    by crutchy (1949900) on Wednesday March 13, 2013 @04:47PM (#43163607)

    I wouldn't be surprised if win8 runs on a closed & butchered version of the linux kernel and suse

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_distributions#Microsoft_agreement [wikipedia.org]

    how else would they get a decent performance improvement? not to mention a whole new architecture... without plagiarism it would imply that Microsoft is somehow innovating... pffft yeah right

  • by AaronW (33736) on Wednesday March 13, 2013 @04:47PM (#43163615) Homepage

    From https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade [opensuse.org] :

    Take a look at all repos you have
    zypper lr
    and remove all third party/OBS repos you no longer needs
    zypper rr
    Change all remaining repo URLs to the new version of the distribution (needs to be run as root)
    sed -i 's/12.2/12.3/g' /etc/zypp/repos.d/*
    If you are upgrading from 12.1 or older, add non-oss-update repo
    zypper ar -f http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.3-non-oss/ [opensuse.org] repo-update-non-oss
    Refresh new repositories (you might be asked to accept new gpg key)
    zypper ref
    If you haven't removed third party/OBS repositories you may encounter some errors as these repositories may not exist yet or they may have different unguessable URL. It is always recommended to remove them and add their newer version after upgrade.
    Now execute the full distribution upgrade. It is strongly recommended that you run this inside GNU screen or tmux to protect the upgrade process in case anything should go wrong with the X session during the upgrade. Packages for both screen and tmux are available in the main openSUSE repositories. tmux is probably a safer bet, because for example if upgrading from 12.1 to 12.2, you would go from a version of GNU screen which uses FIFO pipes to a version which uses UNIX sockets, and GNU screen has a bug which breaks compatibility between these two approaches, which means that you cannot resume a screen session created in 12.1 using the version of screen from 12.2.
    zypper dup
    With the above command zypper will download all required packages and install them in heaps. To download all packages in advance, use:
    zypper dup --download "in-advance"

    • by DiamondGeezer (872237) on Wednesday March 13, 2013 @04:52PM (#43163685) Homepage

      You see? Now that's the sort of simple upgrade that will have all those windows users just green with envy

      • by Anonymous Coward

        You are more than welcome to use the "Windowesk" approach to upgrading, where you buy upgrade media, pop it in and let the GUI ask you couple of question before upgrading your system. Unlike windows the process requires just one restart at the end. Don't let this stress you out. The process described by the GP will do network upgrade on the installed system even if you are skipping a generation. I don't see how copy-pasting five lines and going to see a movie while the system upgrades is more complicated th

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Anonymous Coward

        It's actually quite easy. The poster is just making the assumption the user is using third party repositories etc, which really isn't all that necessary save for packman.

        My version would sound like
        1. open Yast, go "software", "software repositories"
        2. disable any thirdparty repos you might have. If you don't know what that is, you don't need to.
        3.change all occurrences of 12.2 to 12.3 in all listed urls. Use the edit button to achieve this.
        4. When done, click on the OK button and proceed, then close Yast.
        5.

      • In fact, you could make that into a pretty GUI. Oh wait, that's what the update dialogue is when you pop in the new DVD/network install CD.

        It is still nice that the CLI option exists and works well. Maybe windows users are not green with envy, but it makes my life as a SuSE use nicer.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        You should have seen the mess that an upgrade from Fedora 14 to 18 caused. You can't even do that in one shot, by the way. Have to upgrade from 14 to 16, then 16 to 17, then 18.

        And nothing worked. Would have been simpler to just wipe the drive and do a clean install.

    • by Gothmolly (148874)

      Clearly, this will be the year of the Linux Desktop. This will run on my iPad, right?

    • sed -i 's/12.2/12.3/g' /etc/zypp/repos.d/*

      Thank you for sharing that trick. It's useful!

    • by GoJays (1793832)
      http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade [opensuse.org]
      Same as above post. Handy URL when upgrade time comes.
  • De Icaza is gone (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Seeteufel (1736784)
    Gnome? Thought de Icdaza is gone. Suse is a KDE distribution. KDE 4.10 is fantastic. Back to the good old times.
    • Suse is a KDE distribution that works very hard to treat Gnome as an equally supported and well-integrated DE. But I'm way too happy with KDE to ever look at Gnome...
      • by ulzeraj (1009869)

        Weirdest thing is that SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop has the best Gnome configuration I've ever use.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      openSUSE is not "a KDE distro". Both Gnome and KDE are on equal terms these days.

      - Posted from a freshly installed 12.3 Gnome desktop. Installed from the DVD, which requires a choice between the two but in fact defaults to the Gnome desktop. Only default because G comes before K and the list is alphabetical.

      • Before Novell entered Suse also supported a Gnome desktop. Then the Ximian obstructionists destroyed it and favoured Gnome. Now it is KDE again.
  • Do you still get a promise from Microsoft not to sue you for stealing their IP when you buy a SuSE license?

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