Raspberry Pi Team Launches Pi Store 91
sfcrazy writes "Raspberry Pi developer team has introduced the Pi store, a place to get software for Raspberry Pi, in collaboration with IndieCity and Velocix. The team hopes that the store will become a one-stop-shop for Raspbian Pi users. The store already has 23 major applications available for users including LibreOffice and Asterisk. There are classic games like Freeciv and OpenTTD and Raspberry Pi exclusive Iridium Rising. The team also managed to get 'one piece of commercial content: the excellent Storm in a Teacup from Cobra Mobile.'"
Wait, what?? (Score:1, Insightful)
I thought this was all about open source and stuff. Aren't these Apple Stores completely contrary to the spirit of OSS?
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The team also managed to get 'one piece of commercial content:
"Managed"? As if it's something to be proud of?
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Yes, having money to pay the bills is something to be proud of.
Contrary to popular belief, never has a hippie commune contributed much to the world. Mostly because they end up with 3 people who contribute and 30k who leech.
What if no one paid for whatever product you are involved in selling and you had no job, how would that work out for you?
Why are you people so incredible dense when it comes to making money?
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Is paying developers now something to be ashamed of?
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Re:Wait, what?? (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh, wait, no it doesn't. All it does is allow you to download pre-compiled binaries from a central source. You are still able to pull the source code from the project and view/compile it yourself. So tell me, how does this violate the spirit of open source software? Or are you just inherently afraid of anything called an "App Store"?
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Yes, marketing droid, aren't you hilarious? The fact that you don't have Aspergers clearly makes you a better person. Do you enjoy having to traipse through post after Aspie-ridden post, trying to come up with semi-relevant comments just so that you can earn your commission this month? Does it make you feel good that you have no profitable knowledge set other than proven effective methods of lying and trying to sway the opinion of weak-minded people?
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You are not a very good troll. I have seen far better trolls than you.
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I wasn't trolling, I was responding to a troll. I guess I shouldn't bite, but these shills are human too, and the way that they are spending their time is completely worthless to humanity.
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Of course not. By the way, Windows 8 will be a success.
Apple make some great hardware, no matter what you say about them.
And Google are just cool.
Also McDonalds do not make your kids fat. (Your kids make themselves fat by eating at McDonalds)
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imagine of google and mcdonalds merged. mcgoogles?
everytime you stepped foot inside, they'd know what you ordered last time and they'd nag you (yet again) about getting your cellphone number.
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Well actually if they just had a big burger and water from their preferred fast food place then they wouldn't get fat :p fries and a soda every day will get the majority of people pretty fat though.
And what I was doing wasn't trolling. It was more like "flamebait" if you want to rate it by the Slashdot moderation system. Trolling generally involves making someone thing that you believe something that you don't really believe (and I don't just mean sarcasm) rather than simply being angry. I stand by what I s
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Yes, because this absolutely, positively, most certainly prevents you from installing software from any other source. Oh, wait, no it doesn't. All it does is allow you to download pre-compiled binaries from a central source. You are still able to pull the source code from the project and view/compile it yourself. So tell me, how does this violate the spirit of open source software? Or are you just inherently afraid of anything called an "App Store"?
It reminds me more of the redhat rpm repo than one of the app stores for mobile devices.
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In fact, for several things, it simply performs the apt commands to download it from there.
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It's not like it's an Apple device that forces you to only use their app store.
Re: Wait, what?? (Score:2)
That's true of the App Store for the phone, not so of the desktop/portable machines. You can still install from anywhere like the developers web site, open source mac repositories and physical meadia
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I thought this was all about open source and stuff. Aren't these Apple Stores completely contrary to the spirit of OSS?
Then you are talking about freeware rather than open source.
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Neither calling something a store, nor charging money for software, is against the spirit of OSS. Perhaps you should read up on some of the actual objections to the App Store?
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In what way is he being an idiot? He is saying basically the same thing you are.
Re:Wait, what?? (Score:5, Interesting)
I thought this was all about open source and stuff. Aren't these Apple Stores completely contrary to the spirit of OSS?
Yeah, but the Pi is all about getting kids to tweak and rewrite software, so unlike Apple they probably have a large, enticing "Get the source" button on every app...
Lets have a look.
Somewhere around here...
Where is it...
On LibreOffice surely, I know that's LGPL...
You may not modify or redistribute this content.
Oh dear...
Never mind, they must be raising money for the Pi foundation - I'm sure this is on the site somewhere, but my browser seems to have a bug causing it to disappear.
Re:Wait, what?? (Score:5, Informative)
The system is brand new and it seems the app store service provider still has some details to work out about the licensing.
Liz, the head of the Raspbery Pi foundation, is aware of the issue and has already directly addressed it by saying there will be a fix in place by tomorrow to allow the app publishers to properly list the license their software is offered under.
For reference, here is Liz's statement to that effect:
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2768#comment-37660 [raspberrypi.org]
so they weren't ready (Score:2)
It's not a valid excuse that the system is "new"; legally displaying the proper license is an especially obvious requirement.
I'm sure it was ignored in the interests of pushing the thing out the door by a certain deadline.
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Until they decide to restrict you from running software that doesn'
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Technically, the project started in 2006. Its Duke Nukem Forever behind schedule.
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Razubian (Score:2)
Store? How about a repository? (Score:5, Insightful)
Why do you need an "App Store" clone for every OS now? How is this supposed to make sense for free software in a Debian based distribution? Why don't they just put that stuff into regular apt repo?
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> apt-get pay
E: Invalid operation pay
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sudo apt-get pay
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Why do you need an "App Store" clone for every OS now?
Excatly. Debian is very late to the party with one of these "App Stores". It's a pity because it's good to have access to a large, easy to install, curated repository of quality apps. I think it's sad that Debian deel the need to shamelessly copy Apple in this way.
They could at least distinguish themselves by using a different name. Perhaps they could call them packages. Then they'd need some kind of Advanced Tool to install said Packages.
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Perhaps they should have called it an Apt Store.
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They could at least distinguish themselves by using a different name. Perhaps they could call them packages. Then they'd need some kind of Advanced Tool to install said Packages.
Maybe even take it further and compose the system of various little packages so that each individual library can be updated discretely. And then one simple command to upgrade the whole system if requested. That would be awesome!
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Re: Store? How about a repository? (Score:2)
How about a Raspitory?
Authentication (Score:3)
Why don't they just put that stuff into regular apt repo?
Let me know when "regular apt repo" supports authentication, which would allow paid downloads of certain types of software [pineight.com] that inherently don't mesh well with the free software movement or open source methodology.
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If I can contribute to the community in some way, and get free and libre software in return, that seems like a much better deal for everybody. But by all means, if somebody wants to put energy into a distribution which mimics the money culture of Windows and OSX,
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You make it sound like writing software and charging money for it is inherently a bad thing. (Hint: it isn't)
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Pay $10 for DVD-burning software
You can blame the companies that license the patents in MPEG-2 visual and Dolby Digital audio and the patents and trade secrets in the DVD-Video system for the fact that there's no legit free DVD-Video authoring solution.
$120 for anti-virus
Even if the scanning software is based on a free engine, how else is one supposed to finance continuing updates to definitions?
$40 for a media player
Here again, you can blame MPEG-LA, Dolby, DVD FLLC, Blu-ray Disc Association, and other holders of patents and trade secrets.
If I can contribute to the community in some way, and get free and libre software in return
How would you recommend extending this
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As for the tax software, I'm not quite sure what you get from the accounting firms. A list of loopholes? Just some slightly more frien
Ishtar; tax software competition; Bob's Game (Score:2)
I have never, and will never, buy anything related to BluRay.
The studios have already phased out VHS, and they're starting to phase out DVD as well: Ishtar skipped DVD and went straight to Blu-ray. So when the studios phase out DVD, do you plan to stop watching movies?
As for the tax software, I'm not quite sure what you get from the accounting firms. A list of loopholes?
What you get from Intuit and H&R Block is a machine-readable version of the latest tax code in the form of an expert system [wikipedia.org] that makes sure you haven't missed any required fields or the most commonly used loopholes and makes sure that your calculations are correct.
In the various countries that I have filled in taxes, the software I used was free of charge
Incumbent tax firms have fought the
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Extend your utterly stupid (look up the dictionary definition) thought pattern to your own job.
How are you going to eat if your job was 'community' based?
Don't be such an idiot, or you just might get what you wish for.
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If I can contribute to the community in some way, and get free and libre software in return, that seems like a much better deal for everybody.
Not really. While I'm sure those developers would appreciate your work, they can't really eat your contributions. And your contributions can't really shelter them.
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Ease of use?
How about both? Was:Store? How about a repository? (Score:2)
To the casual, new-to-linux users, a "store" is going to be less scary and less intimidating than going through apt-get. Adding the store has not taken away the option of going through the repositories, just added another way of putting extra software on your RasPi.
That said, I'm not particularly impressed with the current selection of "apps" - even if it has a great time waster available in FreeCiv.
Kids now a days (Score:1)
Back when I was young, we called them applications, servers, and well, soap.
See also [wordpress.com]
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If you want to be accessible to younger users, you have to go with models they are familiar with. This platform is targeted towards younger users. An App Store is something they can understand because they've likely had exposure to it.
Surely that should be... (Score:3, Funny)
"...Mrs Miggins' Pi Shop...." ?
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I gather the Microsoft counterpart is run by a Mrs. Lovett.
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(Yes, I appreciate the irony of how I could have not seen this comment if I were not browsing at -1)
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It should be Mrs. Miggins' Pi Shoppe! I hear that they have a "Cunning Plan" to get people to get their software from here...
Oh I so wish I had mod points so we could smash the US-centricity of this site....
But you should have included a reference. Wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrs_Miggins [wikipedia.org]
How is that different from APT repo? (Score:3)
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Well if you can't buy them anywhere else online then it would make sense to sell them there. But fortunately you can. :-)
A Pi store without Pi (Score:2)
Now if only you could actually order a Raspberry Pi to run your software with, now that would be something to post on /. about!
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Also, i'd imagine you are trying to grab a bunch of these for your students/class, which may in fact impact the availability for you
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Not working? (Score:1)
Not working is relative. Raspberry Pi has some issues (for me the main issue seems to be the low powered USB port which in practise requires using it with a powered USB hub), but it seems to work better than I imaged it would work. And it might have some compatibility problems (sometimes I have had to remove and then re-insert an USB device to make it work) with some devices.
So far, I haven't tried any torture tests or used oscilloscope to check if I am able to detect stuttering when using USB sound card. H
you mean like a... (Score:1)