Fedora 17 Released 141
ekimd writes "Fedora 17 aka "Beefy Miracle" is released. Some of the major features include: ext4 with >16TB filesystems, dynamic firewall configuration, automatic multi-seat, and more. Major software updates include Gnome 3.4, GIMP 2.8, and GCC 4.7. The full feature list can be found here. Personally, I still find Gnome 3 to be an 'unholy mess' so I'm loving XFCE with Openbox."
Re:Beefy Miracle (Score:4, Informative)
I find it amusing that as a result of this name, I think this kicked off:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Future_Release_Naming [fedoraproject.org]
After several tries at getting 'Beefy Miracle' in, and the leadership seemingly forced to accept it. Hence a new naming process.
Re:Alt+Tab (Score:5, Informative)
That wouldn't be 'fixed', that would be regressing for the sake of people who hate change just because it is change.
If you are terribly bothered by it:
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/15/alternatetab/ [gnome.org]
But once you get used to it, it is a much more scalable mechanism to deal with many windows. Plenty of stuff in Gnome3 frustrates me, but this one I think they got right.
Re:another example of having lost the plot (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Beefy Miracle? (Score:5, Informative)
The most significant difference between Fedora and Ubuntu here is that in Fedora, the only time you're likely to see a release name is on a Slashdot article, and then if you look at /etc/issue*. Everybody else calls it Fedora 17. In Ubuntuland everybody calls the release by at least the noun part of the release name. For Fedora, its terribly inconsequential, and I say that as the guy who named Fedora 12.
Besides the name and the Desktop... (Score:5, Informative)
... which is always fun to talk about. Fedora is really pushing the state of Linux forward more than any other distro. /usr to make the filesystem more sane.
systemd for faster boot and starter reactions to changes (eg USB device plugged in). Moving every thing to
Single window gimp! And lots more.
Re:Alt+Tab (Score:2, Informative)
For me, switching between 2 or 3 xterms or browsers and another app window is a very common scenario. I will continue using a window manager with proper window management.
Re:rpm, yumm & package managers (Score:4, Informative)
It isn't the packaging tools that make Debian and the BSDs more consistent in package installation. If anything, RPM has more advanced features than either debs or ports. The Debian and various ports repositories have standard practices for naming, versioning, dependencies, and integration that are adhered to year after year. It is concern for the long term integrity of these package repositories AS A WHOLE that make them easy to deal with. But bullet point differences between Deb and RPM? Not so much.
Debian based distros also tend to limit themselves in how they diverge from the Debian Mothership and periodically resync in any case. I routinely port source packages between Ubuntu and Debian all the time. Since the naming and dependency maps don't diverge much, I mostly succeed at doing this. On the other hand, a SUSE SRPM isn't likely to port easily to Fedora absent a lot of low level surgery on the package metadata. Each RPM distro tends to be an island universe. Deb based distros all have Debian for a parent or grandparent hence the high compatibility at the source level.
For that matter RHEL and spinoffs like Centos and Scientific mostly achieve this as well though the experience is mostly like using Debian Stable without the option of (easily) backporting SRPMS from newer distros.