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Slackware: I'm Not Dead Yet! 252

Posted by timothy
from the dude-it's-just-temporarily-slack dept.
New submitter xclr8r writes "The longtime tinkering and learning distro of Linux Slackware found itself at the center of rumors and speculation when its website was down for a few days. Caitlyn Martin, developer of Linux Yarok, voiced concerns in DistroWatch and declared that she would be basing the new project off a distro with a more secure future. Meanwhile contributors continued to plug along with additions to the change log. Eventually Eric Hameleers expanded on his initial communication of 'old hardware — lack of funds' to a more thorough explanation quoted in the article. Have your pop up blocker ready."
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Slackware: I'm Not Dead Yet!

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  • not until (Score:5, Funny)

    by hguorbray (967940) on Friday April 27, 2012 @08:11PM (#39828463)
    netcraft confirms it!

    -I'm just sayin'
    • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27, 2012 @08:51PM (#39828767)
      Distrowatch: 'Ere, he says he's not dead.
      Slashdot: Yes he is.
      Slackware: I'm not.
      Distrowatch: He isn't.
      Slashdot: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
      Slackware: I'm getting better.
      Slashdot: No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment.
      Distrowatch: Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
      Slackware: I don't want to go on the cart.
      Slashdot: Oh, don't be such a baby.
      Distrowatch: I can't take him.
      Slackware: I feel fine.
      Slashdot: Oh, do me a favor.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27, 2012 @08:16PM (#39828513)

    It can hurt pretty badly when your favorite Linux distribution comes to an end. I've lived through this horrid experience once before, with Stampede Linux. We were as close as a man and Linux could get. I ran it on all of my PCs. Then one day it was no more, and I was destroyed. For several months, I had no purpose in life. But eventually the pain does go away, and I found other Linux distributions. I'm using Debian now, and while it isn't as glorious as Stampede Linux was, at least it's still Linux.

  • Correction (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27, 2012 @08:22PM (#39828561)

    The summary is, as usual, misleading. Caitlyn Martin didn't post this in a DistroWatch article, she (and some other posters) mentioned it in the comments section of that website. She also didn't say she was moving the derived distro to a new base, she said she and the rest of the development team would be voting on the issue as to whether to move to a different base.

    Honestly, how bad does a person's comprehension skills have to be to submit this kind of summary?

    • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27, 2012 @08:26PM (#39828603)
      yeah, slackware might not be dead, but slashdot sure as fuck is
    • The summary is, as usual, misleading. Caitlyn Martin didn't post this in a DistroWatch article, she (and some other posters) mentioned it in the comments section of that website. She also didn't say she was moving the derived distro to a new base, she said she and the rest of the development team would be voting on the issue as to whether to move to a different base.

      Honestly, how bad does a person's comprehension skills have to be to submit this kind of summary?

      I think it's more likely sensationalism rather than poor comprehension. I don't think there are any "news" sources that don't participate in sensationalism these days. Slashdot has the misfortune of having a reader base that is likely to notice.

      • Re:Correction (Score:4, Insightful)

        by NoMaster (142776) on Saturday April 28, 2012 @04:18AM (#39830589) Homepage Journal

        Slashdot also has the dubious honour of adding to the problem, simply by posting this as "news" 11 days after Eric clarified the issue and 5 days after the linked story was posted.

        How is it that actual "news for nerds" takes a week or more to appear here, while everyday events like new Firefox versions are often posted before they're released?

        (And no, I'm not new here...)

  • Debian (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Svartormr (692822) on Friday April 27, 2012 @08:27PM (#39828615)
    If you want a reliable distro that will survive every other distro, you go with Debian. The developers fight like cats and dogs and it just keeps going on, getting better and better.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      There must be some level of agreement given that the Project Lead (Stefano Zachiroli) was just re-elected to his third term in a row.

      Debian forever!

    • Re:Debian (Score:4, Informative)

      by wmbetts (1306001) on Friday April 27, 2012 @08:58PM (#39828811)

      If you think Slackware is going away anytime soon I have a bridge to sell you.

    • The parent has no relevance to this article. What does debian's survivability have anything to do with slackware's webserver going down and a new project based on slackware (of which there are many). Besides, slackware has been around as long as Debian. Ian Murdoc tried to recruit Patrick Volkerding for the Debian project at its beginning, but Pat respectfully declined and went ahead with Slackware. I'll give you Debian's survivability, but Slackware is just as old with far less resources than Debian.
      • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

        by Anonymous Coward

        What does debian's survivability have anything to do with slackware's webserver going down

        Everything if Slackware's webserver is running Debian.

    • by GaryOlson (737642)
      Sure, but who really wants to deal with the fleas you'll catch? I don't think they make a collar strong enough to repel Debian developers.
      • They make a shampoo for that. Just wash the developers once in a while and you'll have no trouble with fleas, just as with cats and dogs.
    • Re:Debian (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 27, 2012 @10:58PM (#39829505)

      Debian is especially good if you are a historian and want to know what open source computing was like five years ago...

    • Re:Debian (Score:5, Informative)

      by uvajed_ekil (914487) on Saturday April 28, 2012 @02:12AM (#39830173)
      Debian is a great distro, I must agree. However, I find it to be a little rough around the edges, and prefer Mint's Debian-based edition. LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) offers the fast, clean, stable Debian base with all the bells, whistles, and eye candy that that the Mint team are known for. It is 100% Debian-compatible, and ready out of the box to serve as a great general purpose desktop OS. First Mint took Ubuntu and made it better, and now they have done the same with Debian, and I couldn't be much happier with the result.
      • The way I'd put it, it's like this. There are three rough categories I put distros in.

        The first one is for control freaks. That's where you want to know exactly what's running on your system, no extra packages out of the blue, no unwanted fat. It's also a good one if you want to learn a lot about the inner workings of the system in short order. Today, the best representative of that category is Arch.

        The second one is the other extreme, "it just works, and all buttons are in the right places" kind of thing.

    • by jez9999 (618189)

      If you want a reliable distro that will survive every other distro, you go with Debian. The developers fight like cats and dogs and it just keeps going on, getting better and better.

      Except for GNOME3...

  • by FudRucker (866063) on Friday April 27, 2012 @08:54PM (#39828791)
    entering an 85 year old man in to the WWF
  • but I use it for leering at much younger women
    (sometimes I even flirt)

    Still end up with a bent nose sometimes tho

    and every once and awhile I get that moment where you yell *Wee-Haa There's a naked woman in my bed*

  • by volkerdi (9854) on Friday April 27, 2012 @09:16PM (#39828905)

    Good hello folks! It's wonderful to see we've made it onto Slashdot in-between releases again!

    However, our website hardware is nearly toast, and is also co-located a long way away from where I live. It is an ancient VIA based system with a Celeron and 512MB of RAM. It also sports a Maxtor hard drive connected to a Promise Technology PCI IDE card, and LILO boots from a 3.5" floppy drive. Frankly, this wasn't really great hardware even when it was brand new, but it ran our site and mailing lists with excellent uptimes for over a decade in spite of that. It looks like the trouble could be a flaking Tulip based Ethernet card (getting DUP and dropped packets, and RX/TX errors). It was doing OK again after a reboot, but I'm having some trouble reaching it again for some reason.

    We're looking for a new place to put the main site. Perhaps it could move to our other server, connie.slackware.com (in which case we need a PHP guru to port it to the latest version). There are other Slackware related servers that might be able to host us as well. To be honest, connie is also getting a little long in the tooth (that's a Pentium III with 256MB of RAM).

    RIP bob.slackware.com, and long live Slackware!

    • by phantomfive (622387) on Friday April 27, 2012 @09:51PM (#39829111) Journal
      Wow, do you need us to take up a collection to buy new hardware? Is there somewhere we can go to donate?
    • by Amouth (879122)

      If you would like a donation of more modern hardware just say so - i have several boxes with far better specs that are decommissioned that i don't have a need for.

    • Post should have been modded +5 Funny just for the nostalgia trip hardware rundown

    • by Osgeld (1900440)

      eh just slap a new nic in it, it will go for another decade, its not like your site is overly complicated, and it works fine (well it used to work fine)

      while your in there pop a new coin cell in it, dont want the next update to be "stupid CR2032 shat out its guts and ate the traces off the motherboard"

    • by JWSmythe (446288)

      Patrick, check your email. :)

      I'm volunteering development and other suggestions.

  • That kind of outage doesn't really help Slackware. I've used Slackware since 1992 or 1993, I believe, and I would not change to any other distribution, but it is quite scary when you have a lot of work on top of a distribution that has its website off-line for that long. You simply start thinking if it won't last much more, and many people might start migrating to more popular distros. Anyway, the best way to avoid that is to support it, subscribing to it, or buying some stuff from the store. I won't hur
  • by apharmdq (219181) on Friday April 27, 2012 @10:29PM (#39829339)

    I'm a relatively new Slackware user, having only been using it for the past 2 years, but I can't think of another distro I'd rather use. So I'd be devastated if Slackware did die.
    However, I knew from the start that this was just people overreacting. Eric regularly posts updates on his blog, and although the changelog and updates in -current aren't as frequent as some other distros, they are there.
    I'll definitely be getting a subscription as soon as the next release comes.

  • Too lazy (or whateve - I don't actually believe people are lazy as much as I think they feel more or less angst about doing things) to ... now I forget what I was too lazy for. Anyway.

    Isn't this old news? Didn't I hear German Mc Schnizel rant about this issue a week or more ago and wasn't he saying that it's just a website that is down due to not having funding for the website or whatever, while ftp servers and things were chugging along as they always had been?

    So no need to panic. Slackware is slackware an

  • by unixisc (2429386) on Saturday April 28, 2012 @01:26AM (#39830067)
    Okay, how many base distros are there in Linux? So far, I've counted 6 - Debian, RedHat, Slackware, Gentoo, Arch, TinyCore.. Any others? I'm open to being corrected if any of those I listed are actually derivatives.
    • Suse, Puppy, Arch, a number of Mandriva forks, etc

      • SUSE and Mandriva are RPM-based and are thus based on Red hat.

        • by neonsignal (890658) on Saturday April 28, 2012 @03:03AM (#39830335)

          Using the same package manager doesn't necessarily mean there aren't other major differences. It isn't easy to define 'base distros'; how much does a fork have to change before you consider it a separate distro? I classify Ubuntu as 'based on' Debian, not because it shares the same package manager, but because it currently continues to derive packages from the Debian system (with additional patches). Whereas while Mandriva and its forks have originated in Red Hat, they no longer draw from it.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by lagi (303346)

      refer to this image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Gldt1009.svg

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