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Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin Beta 1 Released 243

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donadony writes with news about what will become the next LTS release of Ubuntu. From the article: "It's time to take another look at what is happening with the development of Ubuntu 12.04. As it stands, the first Beta of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin has been released. I just updated my own system. What changed since Alpha? Not much, really. In fact, there's really nothing groundbreaking or any new features added. Unity has been updated to version 5.4.0 which also sees the introduction of the new HUD feature. HUD still apparently has many outstanding bugs, but developers maintain that all bugs will be ironed out before Ubuntu 12.04 goes gold. Also added were recommendations to Ubuntu software center, and a new tool called 'privacy' and other small new features."
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Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin Beta 1 Released

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  • All bugs? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by busyqth (2566075) on Thursday March 01, 2012 @04:26PM (#39214331)

    developers maintain that all bugs will be ironed out before Ubuntu 12.04 goes gold

    Good luck with that.

    • I assume they are talking about all major outstanding bugs in their HUD feature.
    • by mcgrew (92797) *

      I just updated to kubuntu 11.10 a couple of months ago, and am annoyed that it's now almost impossible to highlight more than one item in Dolphin to move to and from the notebook over the network. It's problematic because I'm using that computer as a media center and the keyboard is usually on a shelf.

      I wonder if that's fixed? Probably not, but then it's not a Linux or Ubuntu issue, but a KDE issue.

      As to the kernel itself, I've never experienced any bugs in it at all (not that there may be some, of course).

      • Re:All bugs? (Score:5, Interesting)

        by pecosdave (536896) * on Thursday March 01, 2012 @06:19PM (#39215517) Homepage Journal

        I'm frustrated with Dolphin - regardless of distro. It's almost right but then it always has one little frustrating annoyance or another. I've switched to using Krusader on my non-Kubuntu systems (there's a back end bug that fails to copy some files properly on really big large number of files moves, like when I drag and drop my music collection but only on Kubuntu). It took me a while to warm up to it, but Krusader really makes file management easy for me, especially after I start setting bookmarks and I got used to sliding tabs from one side to the other.

      • I spent a year waiting for the kernel dev team to realize that Elan touchpads weren't on their list of magic knock responses. A year with the touchpad acting like a PS/2 mouse -- every slight tap was a click, no typing / palm detection, no scrolling. There were a lot of other bugs, but those were mostly driver bugs.

        (Still better than Win7)

        And thank you, person responding, to say that I should have spend $500 more to get a Linux-powered laptop. I appreciate that.

        • by ryanov (193048)

          I have the same problem with ALPS touchpads. Apparently a developer has written a patch for 11.04... but Dell's latest version is 10.10 that I've seen (I just tripped over a Dell-branded ISO for 11.04 possibly, but I've not checked it out yet).

    • by Zemran (3101)

      and Mr. Obama maintained that he would provide a new style of government (I guess he did)...

  • by NonSequor (230139) on Thursday March 01, 2012 @04:30PM (#39214383) Journal

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaqqV--rnGY [youtube.com]

    If I'm going to have a pangolin related song from a cartoon i watched 25 years ago stuck in my head, then I'm taking all of you down with me.

  • Right (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TheSpoom (715771) <slashdot@NOSpAM.uberm00.net> on Thursday March 01, 2012 @04:40PM (#39214483) Homepage Journal

    All I know is, I'm waiting for the reviews before updating this time. Most likely I'll be on Mint pretty soon anyway. Unity gave me a severe distaste for anything Canonical.

    • by __Paul__ (1570)

      Yes, Unity sucks, but why can't you use one of the other desktop environments that are still in Ubuntu?

      It didn't take me long to make the Gnome 3 Classic environment look and work the same as Gnome 2 had.

      • by TheSpoom (715771)

        Currently I am. The main problem I have now is that they also messed with Compiz (or rather, updated it to an unstable version), causing it to randomly crash on me if I'm using it outside of Unity. (Plus Gnome 3 imitating Gnome 2 isn't quite the same thing as Gnome 2... doesn't show all the notification icons I used to have, for example.)

      • Just about everyone agrees that Unity is awful. Personally I like Gnome3 a lot, but Ubuntu's implementation suffers badly because they put all their resources into Unity. Mint 12 has a somewhat better implementation, which is what drove me from Ubuntu after using it for 6 years.
    • Unity gave me a severe distaste

      At which point I promptly did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and didn't look back.

  • 10.10 updates will expire when 12.04 is released, and I'll finally be forced to use Gnome3 or switch distros. I'm thinking Arch or Fedora with XFCE.

    • by isorox (205688)

      10.10 updates will expire when 12.04 is released, and I'll finally be forced to use Gnome3 or switch distros. I'm thinking Arch or Fedora with XFCE.

      $ cat /etc/lsb-release
      DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
      DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.04
      DISTRIB_CODENAME=lucid
      DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS"

      Supported another year on the desktop, 3 more on the server (I've still got some 8.04 servers there that I'll be bringing up to 12.04 over the next 6 months)

    • by sdnoob (917382)

      if you don't like gnome 3 or unity, you don't have to jump ship simply to change desktop environments. the ubuntu community produces decent xfce (xubuntu) and lxde (lubuntu) variants we use xubuntu instead of ubuntu now.. and since lubuntu's release, lower-end hardware has been getting that instead of xubuntu. either variant's desktop can be installed on an existing ubuntu install without reinstalling the whole thing.

    • by Jethro (14165)

      Like others have been saying, you don't have to use anything you don't want to. I've been using Ubuntu for years and I still use Window Maker.

    • by Larryish (1215510)

      I want 8.04.4 interface but with current version numbers.

      Anybody?

      Buehler?

      Buehler?

      Buehler?

    • by fnj (64210)

      I don't have any problem with you switching distros for any reason, but wouldn't it be a little more constructive to at least have a LOGICAL and VALID reason? In 12.04, as for any version since a long time ago, you can just install the xubuntu variant, or (not QUITE as clean) just apt-get install the xfce desktop environment. It just isn't so that with the release of 12.04 you will be "forced" to either use gnome3 or switch distros.

      PS - I'm not a ubuntu guy myself (I don't particularly like any of the debia

  • by JRiddell (216337) on Thursday March 01, 2012 @04:47PM (#39214573) Homepage

    Hi, I'm the release driver for Beta 1.

    Ubuntu Beta 1 is not released yet and will not be released until posted to ubuntu-announce [ubuntu.com]. Until then we might pull the images if we find problems.

    This slashdot story is also weirdly linking to the wrong server for Ubuntu, cdimage has only DVDs and other obscure images for Ubuntu, almost everyone will want the CDs. You can find the link to those on the release announcement when it is posted.

  • as Linus is on the warpath this week, I think he should shoot whomever came up with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin Beta 1
    So tenths aren't enough we must go to hundreds then have abbreviatiations and silly names and then Beta (isnt that what the 0.0X is for?) and the cheery on top, "1". Ubuntu has jumped the naming shark

    • by Spykk (823586) on Thursday March 01, 2012 @05:29PM (#39215051)
      Pedantic Penguin was the obvious choice. I don't know what they were thinking.
      • by ppanon (16583)
        Panda would have been another acceptable animal. They may have thought Penguin was too obvious. For the adjective, I would have preferred Proselitizing.
      • by Skapare (16644)

        Based on some people's complaints, maybe it should have been Pooping Pachyderm.

    • by MLCT (1148749)
      A great deal of OSS has this problem. And the more it is pointed out the more smug all of the developers get at coming up with ridiculous names.

      And before anyone says it is just a bit of fun - it isn't when you are trying to search for support documents and have to letter-by-letter- the release name (not everyone uses the numbers all of the time) or type in silly random names to get things up from the terminal (sudo nautilus - which I have to letter-by-letter every time I want it because it is so unmemo
    • by tlhIngan (30335)

      as Linus is on the warpath this week, I think he should shoot whomever came up with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin Beta 1
      So tenths aren't enough we must go to hundreds then have abbreviatiations and silly names and then Beta (isnt that what the 0.0X is for?) and the cheery on top, "1". Ubuntu has jumped the naming shark

      Actually, Ubuntu naming is pretty easy.

      12 - the last two digits of the year, 2012.
      04 - the month to which it is to be/was released (in this case, April).

      So 12.04 will be released in April

    • as Linus is on the warpath this week, I think he should shoot whomever came up with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin Beta 1

      I believe Shuttleworth wouldn't be too happy about that (being shot)...

  • by grahamd0 (1129971) on Thursday March 01, 2012 @04:51PM (#39214621)

    Canonical has lost all respect from me by passing on the opportunity to call their release "Pretty Pony".

    Some people just have no class.

  • Color me disinterested in Ubuntu until Canonical finally get a clue and kill off Unity.

    • by Nerdfest (867930)

      I don't know if it's because of Unity, in spite of it, or unrelated to it, but according to this source [dzone.com], Linux desktop usage is up 64% in the last hear. I really hope Unity isn''t driving people away.

      • by JustNiz (692889)

        Its a shame they dont cite their sources for the statistic, or at least mention which distros are experiencing the biggest growth.

  • Kubuntu and KDE (Score:5, Informative)

    by JRiddell (216337) on Thursday March 01, 2012 @05:43PM (#39215191) Homepage

    Here is the announcement from Kubuntu [kubuntu.org] that confirms we will carry on for 12.04 and thereafter just as we did before. There are other sponsors of Kubuntu besides Canonical and a thriving contributor community.

    • by pecosdave (536896) *

      Congratulations. If you fix the file copy truncation errors that only happens with the KDE back end - and then at unpredictable intervals, you fix the fact krename got broke a couple of versions back and stayed that way even through the next package update (AMD 64), and as a nice touch make ZSNES work I might stick around.

      As it stands I'm using the good old fashioned Midnight Commander to manage large file copies now because Dolphin, Krusader and Konqueror can't be trusted to do them properly. That's fin

  • by couchslug (175151) on Thursday March 01, 2012 @07:34PM (#39216113)

    http://www.debian.org/ [debian.org]

    I think it's a fork of Ubuntu or something.

    • by steveha (103154)

      I never stopped using Debian on my servers. Debian Stable for the win.

      For desktops and especially for laptops, I'm still (sigh) on Ubuntu. To think that I used to look forward to each release!

      I recently had to set up a laptop. First I tried Linux Mint, because I like their attitude toward the users. (You liked GNOME 2.x? Here's MGSE, here's Mate, and here's Cinnamon.) However, I was unable to build using Clang, because the linker would fail (something not quite set up right with the C library). Secon

  • Whether you like the HUD or not, I cannot understand why new untested stuff like this shows up first in a LTS release of ubuntu.

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