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OpenSUSE 12.1 Released 174

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MasterPatricko writes "The openSUSE project is proud to present the release of openSUSE 12.1! This release represents more than eight months of work by our international community and brings you the best Free Software has to offer. Improvements include the latest GNOME 3.2 desktop as well as the newest from KDE, XFCE and LXDE; your ownCloud made easy with mirall; Snapper-shots of your file system on btrfs; and much, much more. Other notable changes include moving from sysvinit to systemd, improving the boot process, and being built on GCC 4.6.2 including link-time optimization. More packages than ever are available from the openSUSE instance of the Open Build Service, and soon you'll be able to create customized respins on SUSE Studio."
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OpenSUSE 12.1 Released

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  • by halfaperson (1885704) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @02:40PM (#38076108) Homepage
    Here is a detailed list: http://en.opensuse.org/Product_highlights [opensuse.org]
  • Re:Snapper/btrfs (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @02:55PM (#38076312)

    it is definitely not production ready.
    It doesn't have a fsck tool yet, which means any kind of inconsistency will make your fs unusable.
    there is a btfs fsck out already, but it only detects corruption, and doesn't fix it (the major problem).

  • by Stormtrooper42 (1850242) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @04:31PM (#38077554)
    Well, there's this repository ("Tumbleweed" they call it) that basically turns OpenSUSE into a rolling release distro.
    It's optional, though, and not enabled by default.
  • by unrtst (777550) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @04:52PM (#38077918)

    Bump this up :-)

    Sawfish was one of my absolute favorite window managers of all time! I fought with the gnome desktop env to get sawfish back in place on my box for years after they made the metacity switch, and only recently gave up (was just starting up a gnome-panel on login, and considering that my desktop env - no desktop icon manager thing either). Now with gnome 3 sprouting up everywhere, it's looking like LXDE, XFCE, or going back to sawfish.

    If you haven't mucked with customizing sawfish (which is super easy to do via the gui), I'd suggest giving it a try. My favorite thing was being able to change the window decorations based on numerous window attribute matches - like all xterms get one style/color of border, and other stuff gets something else, etc... made it very easy to visually spot classes of apps, and allowed me to put thicker window borders on stuff I'd regularly resize (ex. gimp windows; easier to mouse grab) and minimal borders on things I don't need to muck with (ex. IM windows).

    Keybindings and configurable actions were very sweet too, and could be set to specific scenarios (when mouse is over desktop, do this thing, but when mouse is over window, do something else, etc, including basing that on window classes so shortcuts could be app-specific).

    Looks like it's still actively developed too. If interested: http://sawfish.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page [wikia.com]

  • by amRadioHed (463061) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @04:57PM (#38077998)

    As far as I've heard, the only negative reception KDE 4 still gets is from people who haven't used it since 4.1 was released.

  • by JCholewa (34629) on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @06:00PM (#38078978) Homepage

    > MS Zealot here

    Liar. You're no zealot. ;P

    > Does anyone know a decent Windows-Linux Conversion guide which explains the parallels between the two - such as how to install drivers, where the hell is
    > 'Program Files',

    In POSIX systems (Linux, Unix, BSD, QNX, Mac OS X in some cases, et al), files are split up depending on their role. You know how your settings go in "%APPDATA%\", libraries to in "%SYSTEMROOT%" and other stuff goes in "%PROGRAMFILES%\"? Well, in these systems, it is split up moreso, Generally, all binaries (the executable files) go into "$PREFIX/bin/", global configuration files go into "$PREFIX/etc/", unchanging data files go into "$PREFIX/share/", libraries go into "$PREFIX/lib", log files and changing system files (the print spool, for instance) go into "/var/". Just like in Windows, the system magically handles it all. (note: $PREFIX is usually "/usr", but it is sometimes something else -- I won't get into it here, but there are pretty good reasons for this).

    > what do I do if I want to install software but it's not an rpm or whatever it is suse uses. (Damn, I miss MSIs & EXEs!)

    That's a weird one. What do you do if it's not an msi or an exe in a Windows system?

    rpm is the equivalent of msi, except that the package management is generally easier to work with. In suse, you go into Yast's "Software Management" app and it will list most programs (several thousand, generally, organized in categories and easily searchable) that people would need to install. Think of it as "Windows Update", but instead of offering programs that Microsoft makes, it offers programs that everyone makes (or like an app store, except that it's been in Linux for over a decade and doesn't cost money). On the command line, the equivalent is "zypper". You'd type "sudo zypper install firefox", for example, and firefox would be updated. But anyway, if you're using Yast, I suggest going into the "Software Repositories" section, clicking the "Add" button, choosing the "Community Repositories" radio button, and clicking next. The "Packman" repository is highly recommended, as it has a lot of apps that the suse people lack.

    rpm files are what you use as an *alternate* solution if the program is not in an available repository, not as your primary means of installing stuff. Repositories can manage installation of prerequisites. You might have tried to install a program requiring .NET in Windows at one point and received an error stating that it was not installed. In the repositories, and situations like that would be subverted by the repository manager going online and downloading/installing what it needs to install the package you actually want.

    Sometimes, a developer will release the equivalent of an exe installer for their product. nvidia is an example. This is a TERRIBLE IDEA that you sometimes just can't work around. Running an unknown executable as the administrative user is just asking for pain. I know, because one of my scientists here wiped out his server's entire filesystem by running an install script as root, and I had to pick up after him. rpm (in suse, mandriva, pclinuxos, red hat, et al) and deb (in debian, ubuntu, mint, et al) and various others give limited powers which simply allow the application to get its files in the right place and do some basic maintenance (like starting a daemon if it's a server app).

    The third option that people seem to think is ubiquitous in Linux (it isn't ... unless it's a hardcore science research app) is that you're given the source code and you have to compile it. In 90% of these cases, the only real problem is that you might not have a prerequisite app or library installed to complete the compilation. Package management helps with that, but it's better to avoid having to do this. Still, most of the examples you just go to the command line, visit the directory, type "./configure && make install" and have some coffee. I don't remembe

  • by RubberMallet (2499906) on Thursday November 17, 2011 @07:04AM (#38083746)
    Activities were broken until the end of the 4.6 release cycle. They work quite well now in 4.7 and up... and the speed issue.. yup, they were there in 4.5, but.. basically gone in 4.7 now. I use openSUSE 12.1 on my low end EEE netbook, and it performs VERY well there.. so do not assume that KDE4 was stuck in the mess it was at the 4.5 release... ask anyone who uses KDE4 right now if they would want to go back to 4.5 after using 4.7 and they'll throw rocks at you :-) So... give it a whirl again, you might be pleasantly surprised.
  • Re:Actually (Score:2, Informative)

    by rubycodez (864176) on Thursday November 17, 2011 @11:57AM (#38086408)
    They are still around, now as a wholly owned subsidiary of Attachmate. The Microsoft payments continue in this year. Fuck 'em.

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