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Linux Mint Will Adopt Gnome 3 315

Posted by timothy
from the at-least-2-is-an-option dept.
sfcrazy points to news, posted in the current blog post about Linux mint statistics, that the Linux Mint team "has thus decided that in the next version of Linux Mint 12, they will continue to support Gnome 2, but will also introduce Gnome 3." Related news from an anonymous reader:"Contributors in the GNOME community have started a GNOME desktop user survey. The GNOME Foundation wouldn't endorse any survey, but the community has put together a 23-question desktop survey. Regardless if you use GNOME, they encourage all Linux users to participate."
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Linux Mint Will Adopt Gnome 3

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  • Re:GNOME Survey (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 18, 2011 @12:26PM (#37751150)

    "GNOME works great! Please take away more options so I have even fewer buttons to worry about!"

    Unfortunately by only asking feedback from self-selected users, they'll only get feedback that reinforces what they've already decided.

  • Re:GNOME Survey (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Trix (5592) on Tuesday October 18, 2011 @12:35PM (#37751266) Homepage

    Unfortunately by only asking feedback from self-selected users, they'll only get feedback that reinforces what they've already decided.

    That's why more people that aren't necessarily happy with GNOME need to take the survey. I've used GNOME since the 1.0 days, but GNOME3 was enough to make me install XFCE4 -- and I'm considering dropping the whole Desktop Environment thing altogether and going back to fvwm (or something similar)

    Maybe I'm just old, but I think the current direction of development has lost sight of the reason XWindows was created in the first place. The client and server shouldn't have to be on the same host. The User should be able to customize their own environment in whatever way makes it easier for them to work.

  • by Bill_the_Engineer (772575) on Tuesday October 18, 2011 @12:47PM (#37751406)

    I don't see what the choice of desktop environment has to do with picking a distro.

    A distro will pick its official desktop and all the programs will be better integrated with that particular desktop. The only real negative that I experienced is some distro (eg. Ubuntu) do a poor job with their packaging of alternative desktops and lead to runtime errors that aren't being experienced by folks who use a distro that supports it better.

  • Using Debian remnds you of all the little papercuts that Ubuntu takes care of.

    Also, setting up any sort of wifi on Debian feels like having a little RMS on your shoulder lecturing you. Complete with smell.

    That said, once Debian is set up it stays set up. Ubuntu (specifically parts of GNOME) is flaky as hell in 11.04.

  • Re:GNOME Survey (Score:4, Insightful)

    by HermMunster (972336) on Tuesday October 18, 2011 @12:52PM (#37751490)

    Gnome 3 is as much the stupidification of the Linux desktop as Metro is to Win8. It always happens when you let the developers make decisions rather than letting consumers have the choice.

    What they need is gnome 3 with the gnome 2 interface.

  • Re:GNOME Survey (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Toonol (1057698) on Tuesday October 18, 2011 @12:56PM (#37751554)
    However, in Win8 you can just clickthrough to the full, standard windows desktop, so at least they haven't removed the option. Gnome seems to eagerly remove options.
  • Re:GNOME Survey (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Kagetsuki (1620613) on Tuesday October 18, 2011 @01:01PM (#37751630)

    I was of the exact opinion as you until a day ago. Since I upgraded to to Ubuntu 11.10 I got stuck with GNOME3 (sorry, I still hate Unity) and I had a variety of issues - but many I found could be resolved in very interesting ways. Lack of a lower task-bar for example, you can use tint2 or a dock like Avant Window Manager - and the bar that comes out when you hit the bottom right of the screen already has plug-ins and modifications to make it work like a taskbar. Multi-monitor behavior bugged me as well until I learned you can change it, but I actually got hooked on the default behavior. In general my hands leave the keyboard much less now as well - alt-tab switching with that drop down selector is very intuitive and the search/launch is much nicer and more idiot proof than alt-f2 or continually opening terminals. Then today I was giving a demo to some prospective customers (dirty mac users!) and they pointed out how nice they thought it was.

    I really really understand the feeling of loss and confusion over GNOME3 vs 2, I do miss my old desktop - but with just a few customization options (that look like they will come in future releases) I think I'll stick it out and enjoy the new.

    By the way, rough calculation we've been using GNOME now for something like 12 years. Really up until now the biggest change was moving to the upper and lower bar by default (which I love(d)), that and ditching the stone texture on the icons...

  • by RCL (891376) <`moc.liamg' `ta' `gvv.sr.lcr'> on Tuesday October 18, 2011 @02:04PM (#37752406) Homepage
    I don't understand people who bash Linux. I am not talking about trolls like OP, but there are people who are serious about hating Linux [blogspot.com].

    Why would one want to demotivate people who work on an "indie" OS? Would he/she also bash amateur music bands for making "indie" music and not working for a major record label? What kind of person are such people?
  • +1 (Score:3, Insightful)

    by stooo (2202012) on Tuesday October 18, 2011 @02:07PM (#37752462)

    +1
    right click disappeared. But PCs are not macs, and HAVE a f*** second button !!!
    no menu mean no way to find an application unless you remember the name !!
    Gnome 3 is bullshit
    Unity is worse

  • by Dracos (107777) on Tuesday October 18, 2011 @02:12PM (#37752526)

    I use Mint KDE because GNOME is

    • Chasing a userbase that doesn't exist (computer illiterates not on Windows), thereby making actual users suffer
    • Infecting itself with a disease called Mono

    I like Mint. It's easy to install and I can do what I want to the desktop. As long as there is a KDE version of Mint I'll keep using it. If there isn't, I'll go looking for another distro where KDE is used (it won't be Kubuntu).

    I used to be a GNOME user back in my RedHat/Gentoo days, along With E.16. E.17 is teh seksi, but I haven't tried it yet.

  • by 0123456 (636235) on Tuesday October 18, 2011 @02:20PM (#37752628)

    The hatred for all things new in the FLOSS community never ceases to surprise me.

    We don't hate it because it's new, we hate it because it's crap.

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