How Microsoft Can Lock Linux Off Windows 8 PCs 899
Julie188 writes "Windows 8 PCs will use the next-generation booting specification known as Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI). In fact, Windows 8 logo devices will be required to use the secure boot portion of the new spec. Secure UEFI is intended to thwart rootkit infections by using PKI authentication before allowing executables or drivers to be loaded onto the device. Problem is, unless the device manufacturer gives a key to the device owner, it can also be used to keep the PC's owner from wiping out the current OS and installing another option, such as Linux."
Re:What an over sensationalist title (Score:4, Interesting)
Why waste your time inventing conspiracy theories, when a very good reason to do this is obvious: Malware is a real problem, and this is a good measure to take against it.
No, this is a really, really BAD measure to take against it, just as locking down the Internet and requiring a national ID number to connect a device to it would be. With such a system you could lock up or even execute all the black hats and there would be no malware within a year, does that make it a GOOD solution because it's effective?
And yes I think that's a fair comparison, both ridiculously bad for the freedom of average citizens and the overall freedom of computing.
Re:(*_*) (Score:5, Interesting)
it's not a bad idea in general as long as the owner of the device holds the key.
Re:Sensationalist? I strongly disagree (Score:4, Interesting)
On the other side.. The SAME complaint was made 6 months ago (or is it a year now) about google's ChromeOS for notebooks doing the same exact thing..
help me... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:This would be illegal in the EU (Score:5, Interesting)
Are iPads legal in the EU?
If you think they should be, make your case to the EU. You never know. The existing rulings against Microsoft were made because companies complained. The way Apple is going, with a chance of achieving a monopoly in the tablet market, I suspect they'll cross swords with the EU at some point.
However, the issue here is not whether Microsoft should be able to market their own-brand locked down tablet - its the hypothetical idea that MS could use its leverage with OEMs (i.e. the cost of MS software licenses, and other incentive schemes) to encourage them all to lock out non-MS operating systems. Hypothetical, but a plausible extrapolation from their past practices...
But do not fret, you can still install whatever OS you like on an Apple Mac.
What's a boot time rootkit? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Sensationalist? I strongly disagree (Score:4, Interesting)
This really doesn't require Microsoft to force it, it will happen anyway.
I have an HP machine of a certain age with a chip with perfectly good VM extensions that are locked out by the BIOS. They can't be enabled. Sony also did this on 'consumer' machines.
There's no good reason to lock it out. It saves them implementing one option in the BIOS setup and that's it. Frankly, there's no obvious reason why you would disable it at all, but hey.
So, Microsoft aside - and their decision, aside from possible and so-far unfounded concerns, is a technically sensible one - we will still see machines that are incapable of booting 3rd party OSes, and the support lines will simply say they're unsupported.
(Better still, this will encourage people to crack MS's install key. Criminals will want to anyway, but it's much more likely to happen i the wider hacking community puts its might behind it.)
Grub needs the keys to be public (Score:2, Interesting)
And that could be a problem. More info:
http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/205255/windows-8-oem-specs-may-block-linux-booting?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2Fitworldvoices+%28Voices%29
Re:What an over sensationalist title (Score:4, Interesting)
The net effect is that you cannot buy a Dell PC without Windows. If you could, this would be Dell's admission that they were breaching Australian Trade Practices. Not sure who is more evil in this scenario, Aus govt or Dell... shall leave it to you to decide.
Re:The key comes from the MANUFACTURER, not MS (Score:5, Interesting)
market penetration (Score:5, Interesting)
Stopping dual boot or changing the OS by users would stop the market penetration by Linux. Maybe the knowledgeable Linux crowd might build their own computers but this is beyond the capacity of probably 99% of computer users. Market penetration by a competing OS would be stopped cold which is what MS wants. They want to stop the downward slide of Windows. Yes, Linux has a very small share of the OS market, but what about some new and different OS that is developed in the future. This would stop them from even starting. It's not just about Linux.