Linaro 11.06 Release Brings Unity 3D Port To ARM 54
An anonymous reader writes "For a long time what x86 users took for granted was just 'the future' for ARM devices. Now that time is over. Linaro — a non-profit engineering organization funded by ARM, Freescale, IBM, Samsung, ST-Ericsson and Texas Instruments — released a first port of Ubuntu Unity 3D experience and Compiz. If you have a pandaboard, go ahead, download, install the Linaro 11.06 LEB/Ubuntu images and try it out! It's just a few minutes away."
Different than Debian how? (Score:5, Interesting)
I've been running Debian on my SheevaPlug and DockStars since they showed up at my door step. I haven't run into many (if any) applications that weren't compiled for ARM but were for i386 or amd_64.
Sure enough, there's Compbiz [debian.org].
It's bare bones, it's not always pretty, but apt has never failed me. It just works. Sid is almost always more up to date than the latest 'stable' release. They don't hard lock any packages to any release (unlike Ubuntu where if you don't want to go past 10.04, you're either stuck with back ports, adding in additional PPAs or dealing with bugs).
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Debian / Ubuntu reminds me of a joke an old Rugby player told me. A young bull and an old bull are sitting up on a hill over looking a valley of sweet cows. The young bull gets excited and says, "Lets run down there and fuck one of those cows!". The old bull quiets him down and says, "Lets walk down there and fuck all of those cows."
Ok, I'm old. (Score:5, Interesting)
Back in the day we had reasonably boring X11 interfaces - to date myself I used twm and was pretty happy with it.
Now-a-days the 'future' of both the KDE and Gnome window managers just gives me a headache. Having shit move
all over the screen is annoying, it does not improve my productivity - it reduces the interaction with the computer to
a video game with the goal of 'get your work done!'.
When you're designing UIs, less is more.
* Less movement
* Less jittering icons
* Less mouse-focus auto-magnification
* Less screen flipping and transformation effects
* Less ribbons
* Less blurred and translucent backgrounds
These do look cool but they're not enhancing my 'experience' and they're certainly not helping me get any work done or make a phone call faster.
So quit wasting time with this stuff and go make touch interfaces with some audio feedback so blind people aren't left out on this next generation of handheld technology. Thanks.
Re:Different than Debian how? (Score:4, Interesting)
What are you talking about? Seriously, you make no sense. First og all, what does apt have to do with this? Apt works the same way on Debian and Ubuntu, on ARM and Intel. So why would you want to mention that?
He probably meant Debian's package QA/
Then you go on to say that you can always install any package on Debian without considering dependencies.
I don't see where he says anything like that.
That's obviously bullshit. You can use apt pinning in Debian, just as you can in Ubuntu.
He's talking about the releases themselves. Ubuntu picks a major release number of Gnome/KDE/Firefox/LibreOffice/etc, and sticks with it through the entire run of that release. Natty has LibreOffice 3.3.x, and won't ever get LibreOffice 3.4.x in the official channels. Debian, if I'm understanding him right, doesn't force itself to stick with an old branch simply because "that's the version it was released with"
But since Ubuntu is supported for much longer periods of time.
Debian 5.0 (Lenny) was released in February of '09, and will be supported for a little over three years (April '12). Ubuntu supports its regular releases for about a year and a half, desktop LTS for three years, and server LTS for 5 years.
And I really didn't get your joke. You mean Debian is stupid because Ubuntu gets all the cows? I don't agree. Debian is nice. Ubuntu is _really_ nice on ARM. Let's just hope Debian can catch up in that field.
The young bull would reach the cows first, but he'll be too worn out for anything but one quickie. The old bull paces himself, and so has a better experience when he gets there.
Ubuntu is the young bull: it tries so hard to keep pace with the new shiny, but the pressure to release quickly doesn't leave much time for working out the bugs. For days (or even weeks) after every Ubuntu release, it seems like every other Ubuntu-related comment is about how $NEW_VERSION broke something that worked just fine in $OLD_VERSION. ;-)
Debian isn't in a rush; it'll upgrade when it is ready, and will be more stable when it does. I was getting pretty antsy about how long sid stayed on KDE 4.4, but it finally moved to 4.6 a few weeks ago. My DE got entirely overhauled, and when it was over...it Just Worked(tm). There were no unresolved dependencies. Nothing was crashing. Compare with Unity.