OpenSUSE 11.3 Is Here 156
lukehashj writes "The openSUSE Project is pleased to announce the release of the latest incarnation of openSUSE, with support for 32-bit and 64-bit systems. OpenSUSE 11.3 is packed with new features and updates including SpiderOak to sync your files across the Internet for free, Rosegarden for free editing of your audio files, improved indexing with Tracker, and updates to Mozilla Firefox, and Thunderbird."
Re:Does anyone.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Meh, I couldn't get YaST to work my 2 monitors properly. Fedora works.
Re:Does anyone.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Yep; where I work (small university dep't) one of the faculty members has it on all his desktops.
My main grumble about OpenSuSE is that, at least until 11.2 -- I'm still fuzzy on the details -- you couldn't actually do an upgrade [sherrillmix.com] from SuSE itself using zypper; you had to boot from the DVD and upgrade. I'm used to CentOS and Debian where this sort of thing isn't a mix of hope and prayer [opensuse.org] or a feature request [opensuse.org].
Re:Does anyone.... (Score:2, Interesting)
I'm a very satisfied openSUSE user. I cut my teeth on Slackware back in the day (and still run it wherever stability is really important), and was never really happy with any of the auto-everything distros until I discovered openSUSE a year ago. It has the same balance of reasonably-stable and reasonably-up-to-date that I like about Slackware, combined with a sane out-of-the-box configuration. My MSI Wind U100 netbook is currently running 11.3 right now, and I've had zero problems. If it stays that way for a few days, I'll switch my desktop machine from 11.2 to 11.3.
Re:Does anyone.... (Score:1, Interesting)
If you are seriously comparing YAST and portage that proves that you are clueless beyond all hope. And FTR, yes zypper used to be horribly slow, much like yum. It has since improved and currently, you know the state we should be interested in unless someone is trolling, I'd say it's on par with apt.
Re:suse is... (Score:5, Interesting)
I understand those sentiments. However, as a Linux advocate, I want Linux to grow and succeed. Part of that means that people need migration paths from Microsoft solutions to Linux solutions. Novell seems to be the one company working on interoperability and migration paths to help people.
In striking the patent deal, it helps protect Novell as they work on Samba, Mono, etc. which in turn open the door for enterprise environments to integrate Linux in a Windows envrionment.
Not to mention, since openSUSE is free (as in beer) you're not financially supporting Novell. If you don't donate or contribute back, you're actually adding to their financial burdern.
openSUSE is also community driven, so you're really spiting the community more than Novell.
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Re:Does anyone.... (Score:5, Interesting)
On a non-production system I made the mistake of editing the httpd file through Yast2. Yast "helped" "fix" my conf file so that Apache would not longer work. I learned not to edit important configuration files through gui tools.
I haven't looked at SuSE linux in almost 4 years.. SLES 9 was very stable.
Ubuntu is on all of my workstations & laptops now, and RHEL is on the servers.
Re:suse is... (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm worried that Microsoft could try to claim that it proves Linux as-is infringes on Microsoft patents. However, does Microsoft really want a lengthy SCO-type trial?
Linus has said he's pretty sure there is prior art for anything Microsoft would try to claim.
In the end, it infused Novell with cash (which they needed) and gave Novell security that they wouldn't be sued.
Personally, I don't think Microsoft really can start a massive patent war against Linux on the whole because the EU has already twice dropped massive fines on them, and said if they didn't work on interoperability (which I think led to the Novell deal) the EU would ban the sale of Microsoft products in the EU.
Microsoft's hands are somewhat tied here. They can try a little FUD every now and then, but they can't do much damage.
Re:suse is... (Score:2, Interesting)
openSUSE also has a lightweight version with the LXDE desktop, and an XFCE desktop.
DSL can run Linux with 32 megs of memory.
My point about migration is migrating your workflow processes and data.
If you're files are in Microsoft Office format, and your Linux distro can't open them, then you can't really switch to Linux without losing your data.
Novell is the one pushing the most with integrating with existing Microsoft products to allow people to take their data with them, or work alongside Windows boxes.
Mono also provides a .NET alternative in Linux, so you can take your .NET apps and run them in Linux.
Re:suse is... (Score:1, Interesting)
Used to like suse, it was once my favorite, now I only use it because I have to. My biggest gripe: they think it's okay to replace 'standard' commands with their own -that don't behave the same or are just a redirect to yast. gpasswd has a -a, and no matter how broken you think grub-install is, you DON'T FUCKING RENAME SHIT THAT DOESN'T BELONG TO YOU. Rename your own whiz-bang tool and let it compete on its own merits. bastards.
My second biggest gripe is yast itself. It's great if you ONLY EVER use yast to do anything -you have to restrict yourself the (quite) narrow use case the suse devs are able to imagine. And that's really the crux of the problem with suse, just like Windows, if they didn't think of it already it's going to be unnecessarily difficult to do in suse.
too big (Score:0, Interesting)
A whole DVD is just too large. I started it, it said 4 gigs, and four days some hours on my connection to download. I just don't think so. And before any wiseacres chime in, this is the fastest connection I can get where I live. Guess I'll pass. If they can't fit an entire distro on just a single CD, just no thanks, not even interested in trying it.