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Slackware 13.1 Released 155

Posted by kdawson
from the taking-up-the-slack dept.
Several readers made sure we are aware that Slackware 13.1 release is out. Here's the list of mirrors. "Slackware 13.1 brings many updates and enhancements, among which you'll find two of the most advanced desktop environments available today: Xfce 4.6.1, a fast and lightweight but visually appealing and easy-to-use desktop environment, and KDE 4.4.3, a recent stable release of the new 4.4.x series of the award-winning KDE desktop environment."
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Slackware 13.1 Released

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  • by Rivalz (1431453) on Monday May 24, 2010 @09:11PM (#32330930)

    cheers to the developers. they really work their slacks off.

  • by by (1706743) (1706744) on Monday May 24, 2010 @09:29PM (#32331056)
    on 4 architectures, I still have a special place in my heart for Slackware (though I use Arch and Debian on my main boxes now). Great distribution -- I even sent Pat "The Man" Volkerding home-made cookies when he was sick [slashdot.org].

    As the adage goes, Give a man Debian, and he'll learn Debian. Give a man SUSE, and he'll learn SUSE. But give a man Slackware, and he'll learn Linux. I certainly picked up more *NIX tricks from Slack than the other distros combined.
  • I love me some Slack (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Riddler Sensei (979333) on Monday May 24, 2010 @09:42PM (#32331114)

    I started using Slackware when I began college, and I still use it today. I'm sort of a "medium" user. I can work the scripts and the config files, and I even compiled some custom kernels in the past. But I'm not a CS guy - I majored in music. Even I, with my liberal arts degree, find Slackware delightful to use and I appreciate it's lack of fluff and its overall feel of being MY computer.

    I salute you Pat. May you keep on Slacking.

  • Re:No GNOME then? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by oldhack (1037484) on Monday May 24, 2010 @09:45PM (#32331136)
    Ok, what's with excluding GNOME?
  • Re:No GNOME then? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Excelcia (906188) <kfitzner@excelcia.ca> on Monday May 24, 2010 @10:16PM (#32331422) Homepage Journal

    Unfortunately, Slackware hasn't carried GNOME since 2005. Mr. Volkerding dropped it because it was "too much work". There are other third party GNOME packagers for Slackware. However, GNOME isn't just a desktop - it needs support from underneath X for some things, so any set of GNOME packages makes changes to Slackware that are more or less compatible with a basic Slackware install. I used Dropline for a while, but came to the decision that I wanted my desktop to be officially supported on my distro, not an afterthought. And, in the end, the "one-man-distro" concept that Slackware is just wasn't enough any more.

    This really made me sad. Slackware is the garage-built Apple II of the Linux world (I figure SLS was the Apple I). Unfortunately, Linux has moved on from what one person can really package together. Slackware losing GNOME was just a symptom of this larger issue. I know for a fact that many people have offered to help Mr. Volkerding with various aspects of Slackware. I know at least one of the major GNOME packagers for Slackware has offered to do all the GNOME work for Slackware. I myself have made the offer too. Mr. Volkerding just doesn't seem interested in a community for Slackware. As I said, a one-man garage OS just isn't enough, unfortunately.

    I ended up standardizing on Debian for all my machines. I've ugraded two production machines across three versions of Debian now - it just works, always. Debian is conservative, which is perfect for production machines. And it has real package management.

    Every time I see a new Slackware version it makes me sad. Like seeing an old man wheezing on for another birthday. I'd rather see it go now, than continue to bleed marketshare into complete irrelevancy.

  • by DamnStupidElf (649844) <Fingolfin@linuxmail.org> on Monday May 24, 2010 @11:52PM (#32332000)
    Is VMWare a work requirement? If not, is kvm an option? I'm using kvm on slackware64 13.0 at work with no problems. An Ethertap bridge or qemu's userspace NAT works fine with Windows in an AD environment (although there are some limitations with userspace NAT). The Windows VirtIO drivers for disk and network were pretty easy to get working.
  • by ChipMonk (711367) on Monday May 24, 2010 @11:52PM (#32332002) Journal

    Give a man Slackware, and he'll go right back to Microsoft. Good lord those were terrible experiences the two or three times I tried Slackware.

    Speak for yourself. In 1998, I was dual-booting Windows 95 and Linux. When my Windows caught the Chernobyl virus, I lost my partition tables, and the rest of my data with it. I went 100% Linux, Slackware at the time, and never looked back. I did explore other Linux distros over a 4-year period (2002-2006), but eventually I came back to Slackware. You never forget your first love.

    Amazingly enough, in 2001, I had set up my parents with a Mandrake system. It was my mother's idea, based on my high praise for Linux's transparency and comparative stability. I tried to talk her out of it, but when she pointed out that it wouldn't crash as often as Windows (making lighter support work for me), I was convinced. Today, she uses Fedora 12 and loves it.

    Even back in 1998, I could see that there were great possibilities and ideas that could make a wonderful OS, and Linux was a lot closer to them than Windows was. Now, twelve years later, I still haven't seen any reason to allow a Microsoft OS under my roof.

  • Re:Wait... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Rakshasa Taisab (244699) on Monday May 24, 2010 @11:55PM (#32332020) Homepage

    Yeah, and we're so old-fart'ish that at the time when we installed it on our system Slackware was the hottest new thing around.

    Over the years every component in our systems might have been replaces 2-3 times each, yet the soul of the machine is still slack.

  • recent convert (Score:2, Interesting)

    by DreadPirateShawn (1246208) on Tuesday May 25, 2010 @01:57AM (#32332580)
    I'm admittedly a Johnny-come-lately Linux user, a mid-ish 20's (three cubed!) developer who switched to Linux (openSuSE) last spring. Loved it. Then a month ago, I (re)stumbled upon Slackware, which the online distro choosers (I know, I know) said was a match for me -- great performance mixed with not-quite-crazy learning curve, and even the learning curve would give me oh-so-adaptable "purity of Unix" skills. While downloading this new toy, I met Bob, who truly changed my life -- I became a fledgling member of the Church of the SubGenius. Later, while installing, upon seeing that one of the options was "Newbie: Use verbose prompting (the X series takes one year)"... that, my friends, is when I knew I was truly home.
  • Re:Wait... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by BrokenHalo (565198) on Tuesday May 25, 2010 @02:02AM (#32332612)
    True, but I always did do a lot of hand-compiling on my Slackware boxes. The thing is, Slackware offers a great platform for tearing stuff down and tinkering with it, while leaving enough of a world to stand on while you do so. I used Slack on my desktop systems for many years (from 1995) until I discovered Arch [archlinux.org], which is similar in everything I like about Slack, but with a more powerful package system.

    But Slackware is still my preference for any kind of server. It's so simple, I can set it up from bare discs in less than 30 minutes.
  • Re:But... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by shadowknot (853491) * on Tuesday May 25, 2010 @04:45AM (#32333326) Journal

    Better than Gentoo?

    Well, I'd say that it's different but similar; not better or worse. Gentoo is great when you want to spend hours building and configuring the ultimate speed machine you don't have to update too often. Slackware is great if you want to get a simple, reliable and (not quite as) fast system up and running in about an hour (sometimes less). I switched from Gentoo to Debian then hastily to Slack back in about '00 and have been using Slack since. Other distros just feel bloated now; I recently tested out Ubuntu 10.4 and although it is very polished and great for non technical users I still just can't get past the fact that it seems overweight to me and I don't like the fact that I have to set the root password after install. The whole "protect the user from themselves" philosophy just doesn't wash with me.

  • Re:No GNOME then? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 25, 2010 @05:06AM (#32333400)

    I ended up standardizing on Debian for all my machines.

    I ended up standardizing on one size fits all tees for all the family. The dog looks stupid but they're a better fit on him than the goldfish.

    I've ugraded two production machines across three versions of Debian now - it just works, always.
      Debian is conservative, which is perfect for production machines.

    I use Arch which has a rolling release cycle, the entire concept of upgrading through OS versions is a holdover from the days of physical media. The only OS version should be the date of the snapshot you use to bootstrap. That whole conservative distro thing, as applied to Debian, is nonsense. Running stable software does not and has never practically implied running last years software releases.

    And it has real package management.

    I never understood the criticisms of slackware there. I used to package stuff for servers, for desktops I used to maintain (compile) everything manually. That was the idea, Slackware was the no-nonsense base system and the administrator took care of the rest. With Arch, I package everything because it's so easy. With Debian and derivatives, the majority of users appear to use the default packages; OpenSSL for example :-o

    a one-man garage OS just isn't enough

    Really? I've been thinking of doing one to address some of the braindeadisms that afflict most distros. No PAM, no UUID identifiers for drives, no KMS switching to non-24*80 text resolutions unless specifically configured to do so... Or perhaps the time has come for me to check out Slackware again?

  • 40 floppies... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by gravis777 (123605) on Tuesday May 25, 2010 @09:00AM (#32334778)

    I haven't been around Slackware in a while. I thought Slackware's main selling point back in the day was that it was an 18 floppy install. What's up with this 6 cd / 1 dvd thing? I get modern distros come with apps and stuff, but it just seems a sad day when a slackware iso is larger than a Windows iso (yes, I know the Windows iso doesn't come with apps, that's besides the point). Just saying. My first Linux box was a 486 with 12 meg of ram, 500 meg harddrive, I ran X, an FTP server and a webserver off of that thing.

    Not trying to be a hater, just don't get this size thing. I guess I won't be installing this version of slackware on an old system I pull out of storage. Need to go find RedHat 6 I guess.

  • Re:40 floppies... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by mehemiah (971799) on Tuesday May 25, 2010 @09:54AM (#32335468) Homepage Journal
    actually, I really wish they would advertise this more but you can stop at the first CD which normally has a good WM on it like xfce or fluxbox. I figured this out myself. You can install KDE from the net. I just stopped using it when i did a mass upgrade and it segfaulted. That happened once and hosed my install i think. I would like them to fix that. I've tried installing zenwalk sense but that didn't like my graphics card (an ancient ATI) so I stuck with Ubuntu. This reminded me to compile a kernel for it. you can still use the old one through the grub menu right?

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