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Next Ubuntu Linux To Be a Maverick 319

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VincenzoRomano writes "While the latest version of Ubuntu is still smoking hot, the Ubuntu development community is already working on the next step. Both the wiki and the bug tracking system at Launchpad have already been set up for Maverick Meerkat, which will be version number 10.10. This confirms the usual naming and numbering schema and the fact that the final release should be due in October. This next version, which obviously won't be Long Term Support (LTS), should sport a lighter and faster environment with GNOME 3.0, a.k.a. GNOME Shell, among the main advances. Everything has been explained by Mr. Shuttleworth in his own blog since the beginning of April. The first alpha release is not due earlier than the end of June, so maybe it'd be better to take advantage of the Lucid Lynx while the technical overview of the Meerkat starts getting more details."
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Next Ubuntu Linux To Be a Maverick

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, 2010 @02:28PM (#32075130)

    I've used Ubuntu as my primary desktop OS since 8.10, and I can say without reservation that 10.04 is the worst of the bunch. Why? They broke everything! And I'm not just talking about button placement. I fixed that in the first 10 minutes. The reason why I'm abandoning Ubuntu are simple: they dropped the quality ball on this release.

    First I noticed that VirtualBox doesn't let you use bridged network unless you manually install some kernel drivers. Googling found that people had this problem for at least 3 months, and they still didn't fix it in the release. Second, upgrading uninstalled my Java plugin for Firefox, so I had to manually add the symlink. Third (and by far the worst), my 6GB machine became non-responsive in the first 24 hours of uptime -- on the same machine that typically had months of uptime on 8.10 through 9.10 (I only rebooted for security patches that required a reboot).

    In conclusion: if they don't fix these problems in the next two weeks, I'll abandon Ubuntu for another distribution, and I'll never consider using Ubuntu again.

  • by khasim (1285) <brandioch.conner@gmail.com> on Monday May 03, 2010 @02:31PM (#32075156)

    The 6 month iterations are plain stupidity, IMO.

    But it gets current code out there and in use.

    Hardly anyone wants to "upgrade" that often, and when it's out, we all realize that it's the same old crap in a different color.

    That's where the LTS releases come in. If you don't want to upgrade, you don't have to. For years.

    In the meantime, the other people are hammering on the short-release cycle code.

  • Majestik Moose (Score:3, Informative)

    by mikemsd (225775) on Monday May 03, 2010 @02:31PM (#32075164)

    I was really hoping for Majestik Moose. Seemed like the obvious choice to me.

  • by David W. White (1241890) on Monday May 03, 2010 @02:44PM (#32075316)
    I went against my earlier decision to wait a few weeks after the official release, and upgraded the night 10.04 came out. For the first time since I'm using Ubuntu from 7.04, nothing broke! I mean - network, virtual box, mail everything still worked. My only problem was getting use to the placement of the control box on the left instead of on the right. In terms of speed, I haven't seen any visible improvement in startup, but shutdown occurs in way less time than 9.10. This is the best Ubuntu yet!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 03, 2010 @02:47PM (#32075354)

    Try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras

  • by tom17 (659054) on Monday May 03, 2010 @03:11PM (#32075648) Homepage
    I'm in a similar boat. I did the upgrade over the weekend from 9.10. When I went from 9.04 to 9.10 I was mostly pleased, except a few irritating bugs and the fast user switch applet was removed - this previously made wife-friendly usage in the living room a breeze. I was all excited to get to 10.04 as it was returning. This would be Ubuntu's last chance to keep me.

    Yes it returned (in a less intuitive place, the menu with your name is now all 'communication' based. The fast switching is located under the *power* icon... huh?)
    I have already had a system freeze while switching user.

    Sun Java was booted and now isn't even in the repositories. "OpenJDK is good enough for most people". I will try it for a while but I hope it is up to scratch for Java EE 6 development (doubt that). Now I have to jump through the proverbial hoops.

    The whole Indicator applet/Indicator applet session/Notification Area/Volume control/Battery meter/Network icon mess is a joke. - The combinations of icons that you are allowed ends up with far less efficient usage of space in some circumstances. The reason they made the changes? To increase efficiency of space used.

    I know some of these are minor irritations in reality, but it's mucking about with stuff like this, causing frustration with the users, that pisses me off. I know, I will get used to it.. *sigh*.

    So it's time for a switch. Is Fedora Core wife-friendly? She is begging for Win7 so I may just partition it with FC/Win7 & Hackintosh - Maybe this is the OS that will lure me, cos linux (Well, Ubuntu) only seems to be going backwards.

    Tom...
  • by Vectormatic (1759674) on Monday May 03, 2010 @03:12PM (#32075656)

    Ever since ubuntu became usable without command line hacking (somewhere in 2007 by my account), they started fucking up other parts. They started adding in new flashy shit that no-one really needs, and forgetting about actually getting a STABLE distro out there. In 9.10 everything pretty much works on my desktop (wish i could say the same for my laptops, which fuck up on every release), except for the piece of misconfigured shit that is pulseaudio. If i try to play certain DVDs in vlc, all sound will play, except for the fricking voice tracks.. it takes endless fucking about to get this to work. And every single release the last few years has had these type of issues on nearly all of my systems. nearly everything works, but they never forget to royally screw at least one thing up, preventing themselves from becoming a true user friendly distro.

    10.04 will NOT make it onto my main systems for day to day use, if i ever find the need to upgrade from my current ubuntu settups, then fedora is first on my list.

  • by thePsychologist (1062886) on Monday May 03, 2010 @03:14PM (#32075676) Journal

    28 is a perfect number. It is the sum of all of its proper divisors. 1 + 2 + 4 + 7 + 14 = 28.

  • by bhassel (1098261) on Monday May 03, 2010 @03:53PM (#32076180)

    It's important to say to the impatient among us that the first alpha release is not due earlier than the end of June,

    Actually, the release schedule page [ubuntu.com] has the first alpha release on June 3. The second alpha is end of June (actually July 1st.)

  • Re:Gnome shell (Score:3, Informative)

    by Homburg (213427) on Monday May 03, 2010 @03:54PM (#32076196) Homepage

    GNOME Shell doesn't just require compositing (which almost all computers support - compositing works fine with the generic VESA drivers), it requires OpenGL which (effectively) means it requires accelerated 3D. Computers which don't have accelerated 3D will have to stick with metacity and the panel, I think, which will still be in GNOME 3.

  • by sentientbrendan (316150) on Monday May 03, 2010 @04:57PM (#32077014)

    The problem is that Ubuntu's bug tracker is a black hole. Bugs don't even get triaged on a regular basis, let along fixed.

    If you look on the forums, bugs are fairly quickly identified and fixed. Often problems and solutions make it into the bug tracker; however, that's where the pipeline ends. Fixes almost never get checked into mainline.

    Ubuntu is still the best distro in my humble opinion, because of the wide variety of up to date software available for it. However, each release gets worse in terms of quality. Their bug intake it like the US national deficit. They ignore the problem in the hopes that it will go away, but it won't. Eventually Ubuntu will simply not be usable.

    Really, if Canonical would admit they have a problem, and publicly start recruiting community members to triage and fix bugs, they might be able make a dent in the backlog.

  • by greg1104 (461138) <gsmith@gregsmith.com> on Monday May 03, 2010 @06:18PM (#32078218) Homepage

    Often problems and solutions make it into the bug tracker; however, that's where the pipeline ends. Fixes almost never get checked into mainline.

    And in the three years I've been tracking Ubuntu development and its related bugs, I have never seen a fix for an issue I was running into backported to a LTS version. Far as I can tell, there's little beyond security fixes actually backported. This is why all my server deployments remain on RedHat/CentOS, where the bugs I run into are aggressively backported, not just the "fixed in next release" I see even on resolved ubuntu issues.

  • by Bambi Dee (611786) on Monday May 03, 2010 @06:54PM (#32078762)
    Sun Java is in the "partner" repository. You have to un-disable (...) it first.

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