Ubuntu 9.10 Officially Released 744
palegray.net writes "The latest version of Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) has been released. Offering numerous enhancements for both desktop and server environments, this release includes notable features like Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud images, the Ubuntu One 'personal cloud,' and Linux kernel version 2.6.31. Please be sure to use a release mirror close to your geographic location to help reduce the stress on Ubuntu's primary servers; using BitTorrent for downloads can help alleviate the load even more. If your organization has adequate network and server resources, please consider hosting a mirror as well."
no it wasnt.. (Score:2, Informative)
no it wasnt..
Re:How to get Ubuntu 9? (Score:5, Informative)
You have to incrementally update through each version. If you have 8.04, you have to go to 8.10, then 9.04, then finally 9.10.
The incremental updates can be done through the install updates on your desktop. If you wait too long, you'll have to change your apt sources, so I'd upgrade sooner rather than later.
Re:It says: 256MB RAM... (Score:5, Informative)
Video Ram. You probably have 128 MB installed, however 16 MB is being allocated to do video work.
Re:Not yet.. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:It's not released yet?! (Score:4, Informative)
Take a look at the mirrors - it's up, but the site doesn't yet reflect it.
http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/9.10/ [uidaho.edu]
Re:no it wasnt.. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:How to get Ubuntu 9? (Score:5, Informative)
You can skip from one LTS release to another. eg: 8.04 to 10.04
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [ubuntu.com]
Re:It's FREE! as long as... (Score:3, Informative)
I know I shouldn't feed a troll, but I just can't resist.....
Outside of downloading, I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 (RC1) in about an hour - mostly unattended (while I was doing other stuff as well).
A friend of mine who is a complete MS fanboy is currently at 4 days and counting for a Windows 7 upgrade.
I think I value my time too much.
REMEMBER! (Score:1, Informative)
And hopefully this version will run a little better. When I went from 8.10 to 9.04, everything went to a standstill. Maybe that's why these Dell Linux PCs are still shipping with 8.10.
Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T (Score:5, Informative)
Ext4 in Ubuntu 9.10 is specially problematic, as there are reports of corruption when writing large files:
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910#Switching%20to%20ext4%20requires%20manually%20updating%20grub [ubuntu.com]
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453579 [launchpad.net]
Re:VM images? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:It says: 256MB RAM... (Score:5, Informative)
Have you tried swapping xfce for lxde?
I makes one hell of a difference on my old transmeta based tablet.
Re:Flash? (Score:5, Informative)
Flash has been available for many versions already...
Re:It says: 256MB RAM... (Score:1, Informative)
I'd be inclined to suggest that you were somehow doing something wrong.
I got Xubuntu 8.04 to install and run rather nicely on an old Dell Latitude CPx H500GT. 500 MHz processor, 256 MB of RAM, and a 30 GB HDD. It doesn't seem to stress the processor very much, either -- Windows XP on the same machine could get the fan to turn on if I breathe in its general direction, much less launch a music playing app.
I ended up installing Wine so I could at least have Foobar2000 for music, and plugged it into the line-in of the speakers running around my place.
Easy enough to get di.fm playing that way, but it's time for me to find something else to stream (or pay for di.fm to get rid of the "Hey. You love di.fm, so why not subscribe to shut me up?" ads that are inserted).
Pandora was out of the equation -- Flash chokes the computer (but then again, what low-end PC doesn't choke on Flash?), and Soma FM, while interesting, doesn't really have what I want to listen to for days on end.
Re:It says: 256MB RAM... (Score:2, Informative)
Jaunty runs fine for me with 512MB, only getting a bit sluggish when running openoffice+lotsa firefox tabs(+some more apps that don't eat much memory, but do add up).
Re:Flash? (Score:2, Informative)
Thanks, Ubuntu!
Before Installing, note: (Score:5, Informative)
Possible corruption of large files with ext4 filesystem
There have been some reports of data corruption with fresh (not upgraded) ext4 file systems using the Ubuntu 9.10 kernel when writing to large files (over 512MB). The issue is under investigation, and if confirmed will be resolved in a post-release update. Users who routinely manipulate large files may want to consider using ext3 file systems until this issue is resolved. (453579)
Ubuntu One client requires post-install upgrade
A serious bug in the Ubuntu One client software included in Ubuntu 9.10 that could potentially result in loss of data has led to disabling file syncing access for this client version on the Ubuntu One servers as a precaution. Users who see a "Capabilities Mismatch" error when trying to use Ubuntu One should install the post-release upgrade of the client that will be made available immediately after release, fixing the original bug and restoring file syncing access to the Ubuntu One servers. Files are still available via the web interface at http://one.ubuntu.com./ [one.ubuntu.com]
Contact syncing and tomboy syncing services are not affected by this issue.
Package list must be manually refreshed before installing drivers
The "Hardware Drivers" tool (Jockey) requires up to date package lists before it detects and advertises necessary driver packages. Immediately after a new installation, these package lists will not be present. Before running Jockey for the first time, update the package lists using System->Administration->Software->Update Manager (on Ubuntu) or "KPackageKit" (on Kubuntu). (462704)
Re:Flash? (Score:3, Informative)
Ubuntu users have been watching flash content in their browsers for a long time. If you're referring to out-of-the-box support, no (which Windows doesn't have either).
Just visit a webpage containing Flash content and you'll be guided to install the plugin.
Re:It says: 256MB RAM... (Score:1, Informative)
i ran xubuntu with 96MB on a 400MHz laptop under a year ago. Wasn't what you could say fast by today's standards, but usable for basic net surfing and email. Had ubuntu 8.04 on a 256MB desktop machine a few years back used it for video editing (raw dv) and rarely needed more memory. Have 2GB now on both my laptop and desktop machines, don't think i'll be needing more anytime soon.
Re:Flash? (Score:3, Informative)
(after downloading the .flv file I could always view them with totem etc full screen no problem, so it was a flash-related problem)
aria2c (Score:2, Informative)
apt-get install aria2c and you can download from multiple mirrors + BitTorrent in parallel to both divide the load while downloading and help start seeding sooner.
Re:It says: 256MB RAM... (Score:3, Informative)
I run it just fine on a P4 with 512MB RAM. It's very smooth and fine for day-to-day use.
Re:It says: 256MB RAM... (Score:3, Informative)
The other thing is that some warranties are voided on netbooks whenever you add more memory (I know the EEE PC was when it first came out but I think they corrected it, not really sure about the others). Add in the fact that when compared to a desktop changing out RAM on a netbook is a total pain means that the vast majority of people will stick with the default amount of memory.
Re:How to get Ubuntu 9? (Score:3, Informative)
Try pressing Alt-F2 to bring up a "run" dialog, and typing
update-manager -d
I can't remember if it needs a sudo in front of it, but it uses the GUI update manager to do the equivalent of a
"sudo apt-get --dist-upgrade" from the command line. On the LTS versions, it does not announce new versions being available.
KDE summary: usable but not great. I'll pass. (Score:5, Informative)
Kubuntu fans can check the release notes here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/RC/Kubuntu [ubuntu.com]
Browsing through them, I got the feeling of tired, haggard Kubuntu maintainers congratulating themselves for surviving, but not excelling in, the production of this version which still has many issues. If you read between the lines, you see that there are still quite a number of issues. "The NetworkManager applet has received some loving from its creators, and offers a more robust networking experience than it did in Kubuntu 9.04."
I went to the Feedback page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/RC/Kubuntu/Feedback [ubuntu.com] to see how KDE would do in this version. This is where you get the honest criticism that tells you what problems you might encounter. Generally people are offering encouragement but the fact is that this version of Kubuntu is still not cutting it. Comments usually start with "Great release! However ... " and then a list of bugs. These are bugs from before. One person says: "all bugs I noticed are still there: broken knetworkmanager, no sending via bluetooth, preview file in dolphin's context menu not working. I tried 9.10 in hope they were corrected, but they weren't."
I myself have been staying with 8.04 since that is the last version that officially supported KDE 3. (I hear that you can now get KDE 3 versions of 8.10 or 9.04, but I don't think those are official.) If I'm going to retrain myself on KDE 4, I might as well wait an extra half year and get the 10.04 Long-Term Support edition --if ever Kubuntu gets around to doing one. (8.04 was LTS for GNOME Ubuntu only, not for Kubuntu.)
I think the Kubuntu developers need to be strongly encouraged to fix existing bugs instead of putting in new features.
As an aside, regarding the "Known Issues" list for standard GNOME Ubuntu:
Release notes http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910 [ubuntu.com]
Does anyone else think that there are more and more bugs now, and that Ubuntu simply is not the "install and use defaults" user-friendly distro that it used to be?
BitTorrent links (Score:5, Informative)
http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-netbook-remix-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
Re:USB install (Score:5, Informative)
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]
Re:Flash? (Score:2, Informative)
That's the best part about running 32-bit flash: it runs in a separate process, so you can kill it when it goes wonky without restarting the browser. Just refresh the page with the plugin and it will be restarted.
Re:It says: 256MB RAM... (Score:3, Informative)
The specs on the machine I am posting from, according to Xchat's sysinfo command:
os[Linux 2.6.24-23-generic i686] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 5.00GHz] mem[Physical: 503.0MB, 30.0% free] disk[Total: 35.3GB, 30.8% free] video[ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY] sound[Allegro - ESS Allegro PCI]
The machine does well with half a gig of memory. I usually have Liferea, Thunderbird, Xchat, Pidgin on 4 IM networks, Rhythmbox playing, Firefox with several tabs open, sometimes Evince with a PDF.
The only real memory hog is Firefox.
ATI Xorg 9.10 drivers (Score:4, Informative)
I'm still looking forward to the advancement of the experimental support that X.org has added to the new Xserver (1.7 me thinks) for R600/700 chipsets, go open source drivers FTW!
Re:Torrentz PLZ? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Samba? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:It says: 256MB RAM... (Score:4, Informative)
"I can barely run xubuntu on a machine with 256megs or ram let alone full ubuntu."
Xfce's almost as much of a resource hog as GNOME or KDE these days. On a 256MB system I'd recommend LXDE for something vaguely familiar which really doesn't eat tons of RAM. Of course, then you need low-resource apps as well. Dillo's a good basic browser, Midori if you need more than Dillo can provide. I'm partial to nedit for a very low-resource text editor. And so on...
Re:Ubuntu Bleeding Edge Features Ready for Prime T (Score:3, Informative)
Why a separate /home? So that you can easily do a clean install of the next version from CD without blowing away all your data.
Except that your average Ubuntu user does an upgrade, not a re-install.
And if you're paranoid (like, apparently, you and I) and re-install rather than upgrade, you never want to install a new OS and then trust it with your old /home in the first place. It's much safer to create an entirely new installation, then copy things over as you need them. Otherwise, you may fall victim to old config files that no longer work with the new applications, etc (I've had that happen with Gnome on more than one occasion).
Re:It says: 256MB RAM... (Score:3, Informative)
That's because the Xubuntu team (on Jaunty at least) decided to destroy all that is good and wonderful about Xfce to the point that Ubuntu actually uses less recourses than Xubuntu. [linux-mag.com] I'd wait for Lubuntu to come out or do as another poster suggested and install LXDE from another Ubuntu flavor.
Re:Samba? (Score:1, Informative)
Your Google must be broken. There are several: http://www.samba.org/samba/GUI/
Re:USB install (Score:1, Informative)
apt-get install usb-creator. Run it and select your fresh .iso image as the source.
Re:It says: 256MB RAM... (Score:3, Informative)
FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, Windows XP.
You may not consider WindowsXP modern, but its going to have have more 'features' as far as a random desktop user is concerned than Ubuntu when both have 256MB of ram.
Compare apples to apples, not apples to coconuts.
Re:REMEMBER! (Score:2, Informative)
Source link [ubuntu.com].
The upgrade will freeze on the locales package if you are using the (current) Gutsy kernel, 2.6.22-15. Reboot into 2.6.22-14 before upgrading. See the bug report on Launchpad for full details.
Re:Not true... (Score:0, Informative)
Confusing for you.
Confusing to a lot of people actually. Vista introduced the current menu system where multiple entries in different menu panes will lead you back to the same place as sub options of each other. The display and styles configurators are particularly bad. This has been one of the primary complaints by most users I've had personal experience with.
Quit posting your opinion as if it were a fact. I have been running Windows 7 RC fine for a few months now. If you don't like it, fine, just shut the fuck up about it, you obsessive cunt.
You're absolutely right and your stunning display of subtle wit and eloquence has truly shown me the errors of my ways. Or you're just a pathetic and moronic fanboy. I'll think about it and get back to you.
Re:Torrentz PLZ? (Score:1, Informative)
http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/karmic/desktop/ [ubuntu.com]. Or, for specifically:
(691M) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso [ubuntu.com]
(27K) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
(650M) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+dove.img [ubuntu.com]
(26K) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+dove.img.torrent [ubuntu.com]
(662M) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+imx51.img [ubuntu.com]
(26K) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+imx51.img.torrent [ubuntu.com]ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
(27K) ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent [ubuntu.com]
Re:It says: 256MB RAM... (Score:2, Informative)