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CentOS Project Administrator Goes AWOL 492

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from the going-out-for-smokes dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Lance Davis, the main project administrator for CentOS, a popular free 'rebuild' of Red Hat's Enterprise Linux, appears to have gone AWOL. In an open letter from his fellow CentOS developers, they describe the precarious situation the project has been put in. There have been attempts to contact him for some time now, as he's the sole administrator for the centos.org domain, the IRC channels, and apparently, CentOS funds. One can only hope that Lance gets in contact with them and gets things sorted out."
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CentOS Project Administrator Goes AWOL

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  • Peace (Score:4, Insightful)

    by sopssa (1498795) * <sopssa@email.com> on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:29AM (#28880955) Journal

    If you read the message in TFA, it kind of seems like a cry for your ex-gf to get back together.

    Joking aside, I dont think it's really a surprise for anyone that people have other things to do sometimes, or even getting interested in different stuff. I actually feel sorry for the guy that this got slashdotted and all. If he's on holiday, it's gonna ruin his day. If he's away doing other stuff, he probably dont want to hear his co-admins crying to get him back.

    Really, give the guy a peace. I bet he has used serious amount of time on CentOS project and deserves some time off and respect.

    • Re:Peace (Score:5, Insightful)

      by NinjaPablo (246765) <ninjapablo@smasht e c h .net> on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:34AM (#28881025) Homepage Journal
      If he wants some time off and some peace & quiet, thats fine. Most people in this case would say 'I'll be gone for X weeks, Mr. Soandso will be covering for me in the interim, and has full access to everything I normally manage.', not just disappear and not return calls or emails.
      • Re:Peace (Score:5, Interesting)

        by beheaderaswp (549877) * on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:39AM (#28881121)

        Somewhat concerning, considering the number of CentOS servers I have in the wild.

        I'd suggest disabling yum updates on your CentOS boxes until this gets sorted out. Might want to do updates by rebuilding src rpms directly from Redhat.

        Just the fact they even have to address an issue like this makes me nervous.

        • Re:Peace (Score:5, Funny)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:36AM (#28882029)
          Nerd missing for two weeks. Found to have been on WoW binge.
        • Re:Peace (Score:5, Insightful)

          by jernejk (984031) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:47AM (#28882215)
          And that's why you should run RH / OEL on mission critical systems. Not trolling, just facing the reality.
          • Re:Peace (Score:4, Insightful)

            by sopssa (1498795) * <sopssa@email.com> on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:56AM (#28882359) Journal

            I agree. There's a reason why Red Hat is corporation oriented -- If you need something critical to your systems, go with those who are more reliable to provide the support and isn't so much volunteer projects.

          • Re:Peace (Score:5, Informative)

            by segedunum (883035) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @12:27PM (#28883595)

            And that's why you should run RH / OEL on mission critical systems. Not trolling, just facing the reality.

            Not really. CentOS isn't going to stop working any time soon, the source code and repositories are still around and this will get sorted one way or the other even if it means new domains and changing the name of the project or something or learning from mistakes and setting up some non-profit organisation.

            • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

              by cream wobbly (1102689)

              It's a loss of trust. People will move away. Such is the power that one man was allowed to wield for far too long without it being made public.

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by Dan667 (564390)
            Right, a company would never ever cause one of their Customers a problem. Or go out of business.
        • Re:Peace (Score:5, Funny)

          by Errtu76 (776778) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @11:48AM (#28883099) Journal

          Someone who isn't actively connected to the project won't f*ck up alot of other people's servers just for the hell of it. Right now there's not a problem (legally), but if he intentionally screws up packages there will be. Yeah if you're paranoid, don't update your servers and/or rebuild from official RH srpms. Or buy RH support.

          I just asked a friend who works for RH and he can't confirm or deny they've kidnapped him. Hmm .....

        • Re:Peace (Score:5, Insightful)

          by ScytheBlade1 (772156) <<scytheblade1> <at> <averageurl.com>> on Thursday July 30, 2009 @12:46PM (#28883895) Homepage Journal

          There is no need to disable updates, I don't think. All of the updates that I've seen on the centos-announce mailing list come from two people, and I believe those are the people with the GPG keys on the packages, too.

          If Lance is still around, it is safe to say that he has had all of his access removed. If he has both access to the repositories and the GPG keys, I'd worry (assuming his intent is malicious, which I somewhat doubt would be the case) -- but until the current developers who rebuild/push the updates advise that we kill updates, I definitely will not be doing so. A great example was the BIND vulnerability a day or two ago.

          Seriously, if you are a centos administrator, you should do a couple things:

          1) Sign up for the centos-announce list, here: http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce [centos.org]
          2) Watch it like a hawk.

          It is safe to say that the existing developers will use it if they have a huge need to communicate an apocalypse situation where it would be wise to stop updating.

      • Re:Peace (Score:5, Funny)

        by redKrane (672370) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:09AM (#28881547) Homepage
        Definitely in Argentina.
      • by WED Fan (911325) <<ten.liamhsart> <ta> <egihaka>> on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:29AM (#28881911) Homepage Journal

        'I'll be gone for X weeks, Mr. Soandso will be covering for me in the interim...

        OMG, you guys hired Soandso. He was with our company. He knocked up 3 admin assistants, and the guy that fixes the copier. He peed in the coffee pot in the break room. As a joke, he put our proprietary code up for sale on Craig's List. The worst of it was when he used 3 months of petty cash and donated it to McCain/Palin 2008.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by mwvdlee (775178)

      He's a project leader with great power over the resources of the project. With great power comes great responsibility. Responsibility which this guy does not seem to be handling well, or in fact, at all.

      If the guy is on vacation for a few weeks or will be pursueing other interrests temporarily or permanently, he should have notified others or helped transition some of his power.

  • He's on vacation with Amy Winehouse. He thinks he's only been there for 4 days.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:32AM (#28880983)

    Maybe he and Alan Cox have eloped?

  • by Hognoxious (631665) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:33AM (#28881007) Homepage Journal
    Did they try the lost+found directory?
  • Brazil (Score:5, Funny)

    by Stele (9443) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:34AM (#28881021) Homepage

    Maybe he's hiking in Brazil. Did anyone ever think of that?

  • He probably took the money and ran.
  • by kusanagi374 (776658) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:37AM (#28881079)

    This kind of thing really scares me, because this is exactly what it happens when someone dies, for example: the data/information stream coming from them on the web simply ceases to exist. Also, this is one of the main reasons why important projects should have their main assets handled by a group of people, and not have things centralized. If the worst has happened, CentOS will be forced to fork their project and start over.

    But let's just hope I'm spewing bullshit and he's just pissed off.

    • Re: (Score:2, Flamebait)

      by nine-times (778537)

      This kind of thing really scares me... If the worst has happened, CentOS will be forced to fork their project and start over.

      Is that actually scary? I'm far from an expert on this, but isn't CentOS mostly just RHEL repackaged? And isn't the source for CentOS itself available? How hard would it be to fork or start over?

      I ask because my first thought was to think, "This must be sarcastic," but then I realized I don't really know what I'm talking about, and there might be some kind of issue I'm not considering.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by beheaderaswp (549877) *

        Actually- it's concerning... but not a crisis.

        Some of my boxes have data continuity from RH 7-9, then Whitebox Linux, to CentOS 3-4-5.

        The pain is in the migration. The joy is in the freedom.

        If CentOS bellies up I have enough boxes to justify maintaining myself from source rpms, or moving to another RHE based distro. It's always a pain. But I bet I got 8 years of functionality from Whitebox/CentOS. A pretty good deal.

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by beheaderaswp (549877) *

          Replying to my own post...

          Whitebox Linux went offline due to hurricane Katrina. Everyone folded into CentOS.

    • by A. B3ttik (1344591) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:00AM (#28881413)
      Yeah, he probably died and no one, not even his wife, knew that he was a closet Linux Geek. They'll be going over his record, find the accounts, and she'll be crying "Oh my God, I never knew. Why didn't he tell me?!?! We could have worked on it TOGETHER!" Only then you realize that his wife was a closet Linux Developer, and actually responsible for a great deal of OS content.

      It'd be be like Mr. and Mrs. Smith, but really nerdy.
  • Wait a little more (Score:4, Informative)

    by chebucto (992517) * on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:37AM (#28881083) Homepage

    This sort of open letter should really be a last-resort kind of thing, but their letter says

    When I (Russ) try to call the phone numbers for UK Linux, and for you individually, I get a telco intercept 'Lines are temporarily busy' for the last two weeks. Finally yesterday, a voicemail in your voice picked up, and I left a message urgently requesting a reply.

    If they left a vm yesterday, they should give it at least until Monday before publicly humiliating the guy. Being a few days late in answering voiemail isn't odd at all. Also, is it out of the question to try and get someone to check his house personally? A team of 10 people have got to know someone in the UK.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by GiMP (10923)

      "give it at least until Monday before publicly humiliating the guy."

      Except they had been calling for 2 weeks to nothing but a busy signal, which alone might be sufficient cause for such an open letter, especially considering the financial and management concerns.

      Oh, and nobody goes on holiday without contact for over 24 hours, do they? I bring a laptop and a smartphone with me wherever I go. Even when I visited Northern Africa, I made sure to get online at least once a day to check, act on, and reply to m

      • by segfaultcoredump (226031) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:21AM (#28881793)

        Oh, and nobody goes on holiday without contact for over 24 hours, do they? I bring a laptop and a smartphone with me wherever I go. Even when I visited Northern Africa, I made sure to get online at least once a day to check, act on, and reply to my email.

        Its not a vacation if you can find me.

        I leave my cell, laptop, etc home. For my last trip, I told my co-workers what park I would be in and that if something went south that they can call the park ranger and then hope that they can find me.

        I want to get away from the the regular grind, not bring them with me :-)

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by JWSmythe (446288)

          The difference there is that your work was already delegated, you notified them of your intentions, AND you did give a somewhat plausible way to be found.

          If they called and a park ranger needed to search a million acres of wilderness for some computer geek just because a server went down, it may not happen. They may not be quite as anxious about trying to find you, as say you went missing for 2 weeks in the woods with only 2 days worth of supplies.

          One of my guys

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Kjella (173770)

          Man, sounds like you got managers or coworkers that don't respect you vacation. I think I've been called up twice on my vacation, once because a server password was missing in action and the second briefly discuss a change I'd worked with that had caused a serious regression. If you call me on my vacation it'd better fill this three criteria:

          1) It's serious
          2) I won't need any laptop, VPN or any remote access
          3) There's good reason why you need exactly my input
          4) It'll go to voicemail and I answer on my sched

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by PitaBred (632671)
          But you told your coworkers. This guy is AWOL. That's the difference.
    • by swillden (191260) <shawn-ds@willden.org> on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:31AM (#28881951) Homepage Journal

      If they left a vm yesterday, they should give it at least until Monday before publicly humiliating the guy. Being a few days late in answering voiemail isn't odd at all.

      If you read the information at http://planet.centos.org/ [centos.org], it appears to be a little worse than that.

      They say that Davis vanished from the project "some time in 2008". Given that we're more than halfway through 2009, that means he's been gone for the better part of a year, maybe more. Also, they've been asking for quite some time for him to provide a public accounting of the funds collected from contributions to CentOS, and Lance stopped answering their questions months ago. It sounds like they've recently gotten serious about trying to get some answers and discovered that he's completely inaccessible.

      It may just be that he's gone on vacation, but given that he's been refusing to answer questions for months about what has happened to what is probably a fairly large amount of money, I think their concern isn't at all unreasonable.

  • "as he's the sole administrator for the centos.org domain, the IRC channels, and apparently, CentOS funds"

    That's a lot of responsibility for a single person. What would happen if, for example, he were to be hit by a bus one day?

    I think this was a major argument Microsoft once had against open source projects: that the maintainer or whoever could just get up and leave it one day, because they got bored and decided to move on. There again, I guess that's true of real life jobs too. And, whilst it's possi

    • Kinda like the way Microsoft changed the fileformat in MS Office? I would think that vetting of any product would take a certain amount of "faith"!
    • Re:Eggs. Basket. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Stonent1 (594886) <stonent@NospAm.stonent.pointclark.net> on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:49AM (#28881249) Journal
      "as he's the sole administrator for the centos.org domain, the IRC channels, and apparently, CentOS funds"

      Does anyone know about his personal financial situation? It is not unknown for people to borrow against their business or organization to fix personal financial problems with a "promise" to pay it back "when things get better". Since he has not provided any financial statements from the organization, I'm leaning towards this.
    • Re:Eggs. Basket. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:50AM (#28881265)

      Maybe he *was* hit by a bus.

    • That's a lot of responsibility for a single person. What would happen if, for example, he were to be hit by a bus one day?

      PPPFt... hahaha. I wish you would tell this to my boss.

  • medical problems (Score:5, Insightful)

    by farker haiku (883529) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:44AM (#28881183) Journal

    As someone who recently had medical problems that sprung up over night, I can honestly say that there could be other reasons he's not responding. I guess an open letter is as good a way as any to try to get in touch with him, but the tone of the letter is beyond ignorant. It's more accusatory than anything (which may be justified), but it's certainly not a sign of professionalism. If anything, it shows that he may have been correct in managing the project without the petulant "help" of the other developers.

  • An Alternative (Score:5, Informative)

    by DesScorp (410532) <DesScorp@[ ]il.com ['Gma' in gap]> on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:48AM (#28881235) Homepage Journal

    There's a danger when one guy has complete control of the project. Not even Linus has that. If the guy bolts or drops dead, you're left in limbo.

    If you need a similar compatible version of RH Enterprise Linux, I'd suggest Scientific Linux [wikipedia.org]. It's made by the staff at Fermi Labs (and CERN as well) as a uniform OS platform for all their experiments, and is basically RHEL compiled from source. Like RHEL, it can also be used as a general purpose OS (it just includes a lot of science packages, especially stuff for physics). It's supposed to be 100% compatible, or very very close, and the Fermi guys distribute the ISO's online.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      The problem with scientific linux is that it is not updated frequently at all. CentOS is attractive because they are usually pretty quick about folding in security fixes shortly after they are released by Redhat.

  • He's just spending time with his soul mate in Argentina.

  • Come on (Score:4, Insightful)

    by JamesP (688957) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:52AM (#28881303)

    I like CentOS a lot, but still

    It's open source, if anything goes _really_ wrong, fork. The source is there, all references to the "Proeminent Linux vendor" properly stripped, etc

    It's less work than start from scratch again from the "proeminent linux vendor"

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:57AM (#28881377)

    http://planet.centos.org/

    You can read a bit more there what has happened.

  • by Ritz_Just_Ritz (883997) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:57AM (#28881379)

    One of the other key developers, Karanbir Singh, disappeared (albeit for a very legit reason...he got married and had the gall to go on a honeymoon ) at a very inconvenient time during which a version update was to be released earlier this year. The remaining developers either wouldn't or couldn't complete the process in his absence....the end result being a significant delay in the CentOS 5.2-->5.3 upgrade process.

    I have been an active user of CentOS since version 3 (back in 2004) and it would really pain me to see such a great project fall on hard times or disband/fork. Enough of my production machines are running on CentOS that this latest strangeness has got me seriously evaluating Ubuntu's server product for low budget applications and convincing other deeper pocketed clients to consider reverting back to RHEL.

    Here's hoping they manage to sort things out and come up with a more evenly distributed model for project responsibility.

    • by beheaderaswp (549877) * on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:07AM (#28881503)

      Ubuntu Server?

      No offense to the Ubuntu team intended (or to you) but that's not exactly a hardened OS with the kind of long term support one needs in a data center.

      If low budget to you is a simple LAMP stack- then maybe. But no one has been beating up on Ubuntu server- and it really needs professional QA before anyone tries to use it for more than a novelty.

      The logical alternative for new deployments would be Debian, if you wanted to dump RPM based systems.

      • by Synn (6288) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:56AM (#28882361)

        Ubuntu has slowly made it's way to the data center over the last couple years and it's doing quite well. Typically admins will use the LTS versions which are supported for 5 years. You can also upgrade directly from one LTS version to the next LTS when it comes out, no need to hit any of the minor version in between.

        Ubuntu is seeing HEAVY use in virtualized environments, like Amazon EC2, and since it's built off of Debian it inherits much of that distribution's stability and polish.

        I've been a professional Linux admin for 15 years, have run everything from Red Hat, Cent OS, Gentoo to Debian in the data center and definitely think Ubuntu Server has its spot in the data center as well.

  • Three words... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by DigitalSorceress (156609) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:16AM (#28881685)

    Follow The Money.

    At first when I was reading the story, I was all like, "oh, guy with only keys to kingom hit by a bus?", then I saw how he controlled the funds and I was all like "he's so on a beach in the tropics threatening to burn the hotel down if he doesn't get his paper umbrella".

    Seriously though, I hope it's simply a case of needing a break, not something more ominous. I like CentOS, and I'd hate to see the project fall apart due to losing one key person.

  • by rallymatte (707679) * on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:20AM (#28881777)
    From Tim Verhoeven. It explains the issues a little more in depth.
    Read the post here. [blogspot.com]
  • It seems that as of late, there has been a lot of public controversy around various FOSS projects and the people that run them. There's disputes between key players followed up, all too frequently, with giant personal missives about how this or that person isn't going to work on this project anymore because somebody else is too mean to them. There's guys disappearing, flame wars, all sorts of very public problems with projects. One wonders if FOSS is becoming too much of a soap opera and less of a collaborative development model. These aren't unimportant projects either. The GCC compiler, X Windows system and its underpinnings, the kernel, and certainly file systems, all have had some very famous and public spats between various egos.

    The one thing that money does, when developers actually get paid for their work, is that it forces people to put aside their differences. When there's no cash on the table, there's no logical reason for someone to take a pounding personally due to a personality conflict. But, when there is cash, people can accept quite a bit of abuse and still produce something. While personal glory is nice to have, its not nearly so nice as a check. But, in FOSS, if you take away that personal glory, there's really no incentive at all. You almost have to wonder if, personality driven politics will continue to undermine FOSS, and how much personality FOSS can stand before the whole brand is so polluted by public conflict that one would almost prefer to just write somebody a check just to avoid the soap opera.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Qzukk (229616)

      it forces people to put aside their differences

      tjstork, meet office politics!

      when there is cash, people can accept quite a bit of abuse and still produce something.

      Oh, you've already met! Taking abuse is not "putting aside your differences" it's "desperation for the next paycheck in this economy". The only thing unique in what transpired between Linus and Alan was the public nature of it. People get chewed out for things they feel were unfair all of the time, and sometimes they even quit over it.

    • by JSBiff (87824) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @11:44AM (#28883033) Journal

      Where to begin. . . on commercial projects, *I'm sure* that there are problems with developers all the time. They leave, they get fired, whatever. The corporate structure provides both continuation (hire another developer to replace them), and discreteness (you never actually *hear* in public, about the differences between developers, flame wars, immaturity, etc, but that doesn't mean they aren't there).

      Also, companies go out of business and commercial software does get abandoned, just like open source.

      So, commercial software has, usually, a corporate structure which provides continuity. What does open source have? A few things. . . the chief one being access to the source code. Maybe the project will have to change names, but I'm pretty sure it will continue. In a *well run* Open Source project, there wouldn't be a single point of failure - one guy holding all the keys. Instead, you'd have things split up among 2 to 3 people who can control things like the domain name, irc channels, etc. Additionally, for a *very well run* open source project (though most probably wouldn't go this far), you'd have a non-profit foundation with a board of directors who is the 'owner' of things like domain names, servers, etc.

      That way, if the person(s) controlling key assets like servers or domain names goes 'rogue', the non-profit foundation can exert it's ownership, and sieze control back from that person who was designated as the 'administrator'. That may require going to court, but if the organization is on record as being the 'owner' of those assets, and can prove it, the court will use its power to restore control of those assets to the rightful owner.

      Unfortunately, since most Open Source projects start out as one guy or gal, they often seem to never get around to the stage of maturity of making the project independent of that person - I think part of that is ego on the part of the project founder. They are too small minded, often, to think of the project in terms bigger than themselves, and give up control.

      Which brings us back to the source. AT LEAST, we always have the source, which means no Open Source/Free Software project can ever truly die, unless nobody cares about it, then it doesn't matter if it does die. (If anybody was *using* an Open Source project, and it was vital to them, then they'd care enough about it to either maintain it themselves if they must, or get someone else to maintain it [which might mean spending some cash, but that's life]).

  • by mseeger (40923) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:49AM (#28882253)
    Hi,

    i don't think that this an atypical problem, neither inside or outside the
    open source community. We have people giving ressources of to projects
    (e.g. time, money). Usually they expect something in return (e.g. recognition,
    influence). Normally those expectations are never stated explecitely. So what
    happens: Someone sees his expectations not met, so he cuts the ressources he
    gives. Usually this goes together with hurt feelings as well, so he tries to
    get a refund by keeping assets (domains, money, passwords, etc.).

    Same thing happened with other OSS projects (e.g. Blastwave) and non
    profit organisations (e.g. Hannelore Kohl Stiftung here in germany).

    You cannot fix this. When you try to fix it, you need a board and a charta
    right at the beginning. Too many projects would already die here and would
    never get to the stage where a quitting founder brings a crisis. In the worst
    case now: they have to start at the current status again under a new name.

    CU, Martin

    P.S. This shell not be a factual description, what happened in this project.
    This is only a description of things i observed elsewhere and would expect
    to find here too.
  • What an arm (Score:3, Funny)

    by hierofalcon (1233282) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:50AM (#28882259)
    Gotta be a record for a chair throw, even for someone with so much practice.
  • So go take over. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by BitZtream (692029) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:51AM (#28882279)

    You mean that of all the 'geeks' that are working on this 'project', no one can take over the IRC channel and domain name? Its pretty trivial to do both, even today, with all the 'safe gaurds' in place. I haven't tried to steal a bank account but that seems pretty trivial as well.

    So tell me exactly why this is a problem for a bunch of geeks?

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by jimicus (737525)

      I haven't tried to steal a bank account but that seems pretty trivial as well.

      So tell me exactly why this is a problem for a bunch of geeks?

      I don't know about you, but having to be careful not to bend down in the shower for several years would be a real problem for me.

  • Uh oh... (Score:3, Funny)

    by Sleepy (4551) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @10:51AM (#28882293) Homepage

    He told his wife he had to fly out, to meet the other CentOS developers... in Buenos Aires...

  • by kriston (7886) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @11:20AM (#28882687) Homepage Journal

    Wow. Imagine all those whiz kids who told their bosses they'd save mad money changing RHEL to CentOS.
    This reminds me of the Xircon IRC chat client software from a few years ago.
    Sometimes people just pull the plug, I guess.

  • LinkedIn (Score:4, Informative)

    by dave420 (699308) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @11:55AM (#28883203)
    LinkedIn says he's the founder of CentOS, and that he stopped working there in 2008. Oops.
  • by chill (34294) on Thursday July 30, 2009 @12:09PM (#28883363) Journal

    Lance Davis, the first editor of Centos, who never actually resigned from his job. He simply left one morning for lunch and never returned to his office, making all later holders of the position "Acting Editors." His old office is still preserved by the Centos volunteers in the hope that he will return. His desk sports a sign that reads "Missing, presumed fed."

  • how is he gone? (Score:3, Informative)

    by perry753 (924813) on Friday July 31, 2009 @12:46AM (#28892497)
    how is he gone? He is clearly on IRC right now * [lancelan] (n=lance@uklinux.plus.com): Lance Davis * [lancelan] @#centos-devel @#uklinux @#lbw @#centos @#centos-mirror #centos-social @#lance * [lancelan] irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/ * [lancelan] is identified to services * [lancelan] is signed on as account lance_cen * [lancelan] idle 01:47:07, signon: Thu Jul 30 19:55:01 * [lancelan] End of WHOIS list.

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