Mandriva 2009 Spring Released 96
Frederik writes "Mandriva just released the 2009 Spring version of its distribution. Highlights of this new version include vastly improved boot times thanks to Speedboot, KDE 4.2.2, GNOME 2.26.1, XFCE 4.6 and LXDE desktop environments, a completely rewritten Mandriva Security Centre and improved firewall and network configuration tools, OLPC Sugar environment, QT Creator development environment, Songbird audio player, ext4 support and many more. Check out the release tour and release notes for more information or immediately start downloading it."
Mandrive versus Ubuntu (Score:4, Interesting)
Since I use Kubuntu Jaunty Jackalope, can someone outline the big differences between that and Mandriva? It's been a long time since I used Mandriva, way back since it was still called Mandrake.
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It is actually not such a bad distro (Score:5, Interesting)
Also, Mandriva's fonts are the best I have seen in Linux. I don't know why everybody else does not do whatever it is that they do, but they are smooth as silk.
Mandriva is still a great distro. (Score:5, Interesting)
Yeah I'm a fanboi and I have tried ubuntu but found it to be a little too dumbed down for my likes.
The Powerpack is a really nice package due to it having some things that are really really nice. Trying to install the Citrix client, you'll need Motif 4, which is included in the power pack.
Want to run an ATI card with xorg 1.6, the Power Pack comes with working drivers.
Want to run Firefox plugins on x86_64? Mandriva got that one right too.
Want to D/L the MS and Real codecs for mplayer? You can get them from the Penguin Liberation Front at http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ [zarb.org]
Want to set up a mythtv backend? Let Mandriva look for updates during an install or tell it to add "Distribution Sources" and all you need to do is type: "urpmi mythtv-setup mythtv-frontend mythtv-backend" and follow the instructions.
Mandriva is, IMHO, the most flexible Linux Distribution available; and yeah, I'm going to pony up the pesos to buy the PowerPack.
XFCE? (Score:3, Interesting)
I see a download option for KDE and an option for Gnome. The summary says XFCE is available. What do I download if I'm a XFCE user who uses Gnome plugins (nm-applet, etc) and KOffice?
Re:Mandrive versus Ubuntu (Score:2, Interesting)
Mandriva's simply done a better job of being the distro you can hand to a neophyte and walk away.
Not only that, but Mandriva is the only Linux distro which has been working to create a completely usable Linux Desktop. These days I have better things to do that to keep tweaking my desktop months after the install. Many call Mandriva the neophyte distro - and while its true, its also the Linux Desktop distro you can simply install and use without screwing around with it weeks after the install.
I must say, the only real problem I've had with Mandriva is the install with odd non-ordinary configurations. That is, using LVM + RAID or LVM + DM or LVM + LVM DM/RAID often results in many explicatives, rescue booting, and the command line to work around their bugs. But for most people, there isn't an easier distro to install and run. Each release gets better. Hopefully they've fix their issues here.
Re:You keep using that word... (Score:3, Interesting)
For the LDAP and Kerberos Junky.. (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm the local LDAP and Kerberos Junky.
Something I've always loved about Mandriva is that it can use Kerberos to disseminate packages and streamline installations in a LAN. Not to mention this new version adds an LDAP schema to urpmi meaning you can control urpmi repository configuration through LDAP.
Now this is what really caused me to almost shit myself when I saw it. Mandriva is coming out with something for their corporate line called Pulse 2. Pulse 2 allows for the Cataloging of the installation of applications on other Distributions of Linux, AND Windows. Again, also centralized by none-other than LDAP.
Re:Mandrive versus Ubuntu (Score:2, Interesting)
Mandriva is a KDE distribution. Altough the KDE does not get more attention than GNOME. Both are very well supported and if weighted Ubuntu and Mandriva with KDE and GNOME support, Mandriva wins, because of Kubuntu quality.
And Mandriva takes the security very seriously and use root account correctly. It use sudo too, but it is used just how it should be used, to defined a specific permissions for specific users and only for specific tasks. It does not make the same idiotic act like canonical with sudo using it wrong, by making first user almost exactly as root user.
Sudo was never meant to be a root replacement. It was meant to allow root to give specific people a specific rights for system settings, while root could do still all things and manage all sudoers.
Now Ubuntu is terrible in security. It teach wrong idea that user should have one password only, what is most likely to be a very short/dictionary word what is easy to hack. And the username ain't hard to quess. By default Ubuntu place username as the users first name. Social hacking is just too easy.
I have got inside of most Ubuntu users computer just by using their first name and quessing few times their password, from very typical sources (birthdays, midlename, school, mother/fater name etc) and it's done.
And usually you can even get the password by asking them (hey, usually they are your friends and clients!) and while they give you their userpassword, you get the root password on same time and you can do what ever you want.
No one of many Linux users who understands the root/user difference, has not gaved to me the root password when I have asked that. I have got the user password but never the root. They understands THE root password is needed to keep in their self and not any one else.
Ubuntu is coming more and more samekind like Windows. Most users are from windows and that's the reason why Ubuntu teaches wrong and unwise security for it's users.
You can even now found out on Ubuntu forums in small periods commands for helps what does something "evil" to executers computer. Normal Ubuntu users does not think much what they type to the commandline, it is just 'sudo this' and 'sudo that' and there we go...
I have seen so many normal users to type all commands on commandline with sudo. The sudo comes to their typical prefix for all commands, even when they really dont need to use it!
Ubuntu's one good security is that there ain't services listening network. But same thing goes for other distributions. They have firewalls and disabled connections and especially root logins etc. Ubuntu ain't on special situation on that either.
When comparing Ubuntu for other distributions what takes security wery sesiously, they are almost bottom of line. Only distributions what only runs all software as root, are below Ubuntu...
We could argue how much we want about sudo vs root. But we can not argue about how Ubuntu is using sudo by wrong way. Or we can not argue how Ubuntu teaches for new users the totally wrong password usage. And not the correct one where you need to have different passwords for different places and usually even different usernames.
Ubuntu is trying to get there where the window is low... that just means the thief's are getting inside always sooner or later because of that.
Even Microsoft has learn since Windows Vista that computer need to have at least two passwords, one for user and one for Admin.
Re:It was their ball to drop and they did. (Score:3, Interesting)
Ive stuck with MDK/MDV since MDV8.1, but I do understand GPs problem.
Every now and then Mandriva produce a bad release, 2005-LE was peculiarly odoriferous, 9.2 and one of the 2007 releases were also rather poor. 2008.0 and 2008.1 were good (apart from an ugly backport of Firefox when FF2 went out of service), but then they went to KDE4 far to early with MDV 2009.0, which hasn't worked too well.
FWIW, Im thinking 2009.1 is going to be one of the better releases.
The Mandriva website really was useless, I couldn't even re-find solutions to problems I'd previously had solved (e.g. an odd xorg.conf for my monitor). Its a lot better today, but there is still an odd gap between the main site [mandriva.com] and the place all the really useful [mandriva.com] information is kept.
What I really dont get is this love for Ubuntu. Its about as good as any other distro.