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Ubuntu 9.04 Released 620

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Mohamed Zaian writes "Canonical, the commercial sponsor of Ubuntu, announced today that Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Edition is free to download from Thursday 23 April. Also announced were the simultaneous releases of Ubuntu 9.04 Server Edition and Ubuntu 9.04 Netbook Remix (UNR). Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Edition delivers a range of feature enhancements to improve the user experience. Shorter boot speeds, some as short as 25 seconds, ensure faster access to a full computing environment on most desktop, laptop and netbook models. Enhanced suspend-and-resume features also give users more time between charges along with immediate access after hibernation. Intelligent switching between Wi-Fi and 3G environments has been broadened to support more wireless devices and 3G cards, resulting in a smoother experience for most users."
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Ubuntu 9.04 Released

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  • by hattig (47930) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:14AM (#27686885) Journal

    Does it preload the "Gnome" menu yet, or do you still get that annoying pause when you first click on it?

    Does the lovely dark Dusk theme work with Gnome 2.26?

    Will it kill off hardware VIA graphics (HP 2133 netbook) like the last kernel upgrade, or does it now handle these properly as a third party binary blob?

    Will it give me free beer and hookers?

    • Notifications (Score:5, Informative)

      by CrispBH (822439) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:41AM (#27687277)

      Seems generally more stable, I've been running the RC for a couple of days now. Not many immediately noticeable changes but lots of improved under the hood support. Beware if you have an older ATI card you might run into problems.

      Anyway, the thing I'm really not sure of is the notifications system. Just about the only option with them seems to be to change their positioning via gconf-editor (and even that seems to be broken). I understand the philosophy behind them (see http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/253 [markshuttleworth.com]) but they seem to be a little too unconfigurable, even for Gnome. Their black appearance would suit the KDE default theme, but it certainly doesn't fit in well with my much lighter Clearlooks theme in Gnome and there's no way to change that. One of the things I like about Gnome is the integrated look and feel of the entire system, whereas these stand out oddly. There is no way to dismiss them, so things get irritating when I want to use the search bar in Firefox and there's a notification covering it (these things could well be click transparent but it's still irritating). There is no way to configure what gets displayed as a notification either; I don't think I need each and every Pidgin message to be displayed as a notification for reasons of both privacy and distraction. To me, the notifications system seems a little too much like an answer looking for a problem. I may well disable them soon, after giving them a fair trial. The only sane way to do that seems to be to remove the notify-osd daemon. So much for ease of use!

      That all said, it's my only major gripe with the upgrade, and that system was always going to be controversial. Hopefully it grows and improves. If not, I'm not forced to run it. Overall, this seems to be a steady incremental release that smoothes over a few rough patches and should hopefully do me well for another 6 months. Ubuntu is still the only distribution that I have not had very regular problems with on the desktop.

      • Re:Notifications (Score:5, Informative)

        by hattig (47930) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:17AM (#27687845) Journal

        I think they need to look at Growl on Mac OS X to see how to implement a notifications system. At least Growl has an adjustable look and feel and configuration settings.

      • Re:Notifications (Score:5, Informative)

        by Gibbs-Duhem (1058152) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:19AM (#27687891)

        FWIW, I figured out how to fix this for pidgin specifically. I kind of like it popping up a message when someone says something and the window doesn't have focus, but I don't need a notification every time someone comes online -- you can change this behavior in Pidgin's Tools->Plugins->Libnotify Popups->Configure Plugin.

        Once it stopped doing that, I found that I mind much less, and having coherency between the volume control, email notification, etc, etc is sort of nice. I expect that the customizability will improve in the future, because otherwise the feature seems very sane; it's silly for every application to have their own way of displaying messages.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by blackest_k (761565)

        I don't think I need each and every Pidgin message to be displayed as a notification for reasons of both privacy and distraction.

        .
        Probably needs a way to configure that. but in use it's not that bad at least it only sends you messages that are addressed at you.

        If your browsing and in an Irc Chat or looking something up it's easy to miss something aimed for your attention and that pop up gets your attention for a couple of seconds, I found it quite useful. BTW if you don't want to talk, you could log out or mark yourself busy or something.
        Actually thats a good point. if user has marked himself unavailable don't show the notification,

      • Re:Notifications (Score:5, Informative)

        by tolan-b (230077) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:39AM (#27688213)

        > Does it preload the "Gnome" menu yet, or do you
        > still get that annoying pause when you first
        > click on it?

        Not sure it's preloading but I've not been noticing the delay this time round. Certainly seems much faster

        > Does the lovely dark Dusk theme work with Gnome 2.26?

        Do you mean Dust? If so it seems ok, though I've not run it for very long.

        > Will it kill off hardware VIA graphics (HP 2133
        > netbook) like the last kernel upgrade, or does
        > it now handle these properly as a third party
        > binary blob?

        Don't know sorry.

        > Will it give me free beer and hookers?

        Yes

        There's not a huge amount of shiny new toys but this release seems *much* more stable. Can't think of any regressions I've noticed this time round, which was very much not the case with Intrepid which was bloody awful (and Hardy which wasn't much better).

        Looks like someone finally listened on the stability front. I was close to dumping Ubuntu personally.

      • Re:Notifications (Score:4, Interesting)

        by Ian Alexander (997430) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:41AM (#27688255)
        If you open up the menu editor there should be a hidden preferences applet in there that lets you configure the notifications. I found it on my system which I installed fresh from Beta.
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by xenocide2 (231786)

          Except if you test it, it doesn't appear to work, which is probably why it was hidden.

      • Re:Notifications (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Oxy the moron (770724) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:59AM (#27688545)

        Beware if you have an older ATI card you might run into problems.

        "Older," in this case, defined as anything prior to the HD3x00 series. My experience with 9.04 and a 2600XT is less than ideal.

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by levell (538346)

          > >Beware if you have an older ATI card you might run into problems.
          > "Older," in this case, defined as anything prior to the HD3x00 series. My experience with 9.04 and a 2600XT is less than ideal.

          One of Fedora's recent test days [fedoraproject.org] (in preparation for Fedora 11 [fedoraproject.org] which is due out soon) found a number of problems with ATI cards. Hopefully by the time F11 ships (in about a month) a number of the issues will be sorted.

          Fixes made for Fedora will eventually benefit Ubuntu users using the OSS ATI drivers

      • Re:Notifications (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Radhruin (875377) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @11:01AM (#27688581)

        I was skeptical about the usefulness of those notifications when Shuttleworth first blogged about them, and after a couple weeks with them, I can safely say they need a lot of improvements.

        For one, they are way too obtrusive. They are so frequent (I agree that there is no reason to have every IM, every contact sign-in/out broadcast up on the screen), and there is no way to dismiss them. Yes, I can hover "under" them and they fade away, but sometimes I just want the distraction to go away entirely.

        And, that fading behavior is pretty worthless too. It's completely unintuitive. I am always moving my mouse over to the notification to interact with it (dismiss it, or whatever) only to have it completely disappear.

        It's such a wasted opportunity too. If I get an IM, wouldn't it be sweet if I could click on the notification to bring up the window? Or, better yet, wouldn't it be sweet if I could send a quick reply in the notification bubble itself? Digsby on windows does this and it's pretty fantastic. But no. Instead I have to hunt through my task bar/docky to find the application providing the notification and click on it in order to respond to the notification. Why can't the notification system make it easier to deal with notifications?

        To me, it feels like Shuttleworth thought some growl-like notifications would help spruce up the system and implemented it half-assedly without really considering how people want to use the thing.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by myz24 (256948)

          Growl works how you describe. It's one of the reasons I like mac so much and I'm really happy to see it in 9.04. I'm sure with time the notification system will be improved.

    • by orkybash (1013349) <tim.bocek@gm a i l . c om> on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:47AM (#27687373)

      Will it give me free beer and hookers?

      Free as in speech, silly.

  • Jaunty (Score:5, Interesting)

    by drinkypoo (153816) <martin.espinoza@gmail.com> on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:15AM (#27686899) Homepage Journal

    Jaunty Jackalope may be the poofiest name for an Ubuntu release yet, but this is the first one since the Dapper Drake (Also quite poofish) to actually improve Ubuntu's stability. Unfortunately GNOME has boned the network manager (well, we got this one in Intrepid, it was extremely nonintuitive then and it's the same now, and it's still too retarded to handle bridging) and the gnome-panel which is now a mandatory application. Also the logout panel is now stupid, you can have logout options or shutdown options but you can't have both at once. Let's all hear it for Ubuntu for making the system more stable, and let's all give GNOME a big raspberry for their constant attempts to take GUIs into the last century. (KDE still looks like the kitchen sink exploded on my desktop... but anyway.) I do have one gripe, though: Will you guys please decide on a strategy for audio? I'm getting tired of having to follow PulseAudio's PerfectSetup document, why don't y'all try reading it sometime? Not that pulseaudio came with Jaunty; too bad audio didn't work right without it.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by zbharucha (1331473)
      Just use XFCE. You won't be sorry.
      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by drinkypoo (153816)

        I already tried it and was already sorry. I run a million billion GTK+ apps so the major reason to run XFCE, not loading all those libraries, doesn't apply to me. I've tried Kubuntu too, just in case anyone was wondering. For all its faults, I still believe GNOME is the best desktop on Linux today — I just think it's headed in the wrong direction. Perhaps one day KDE will kill the clutter and then I'll switch.

        • Re:Jaunty (Score:4, Informative)

          by ameyer17 (935373) <slashdot@ameyer17.com> on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:05AM (#27687653) Homepage

          Except XFCE is GTK+ based, so you get those libraries loaded whether you run GTK apps or not.

        • Re:Jaunty (Score:4, Informative)

          by mhall119 (1035984) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:07AM (#27687677) Homepage Journal

          I already tried it and was already sorry. I run a million billion GTK+ apps so the major reason to run XFCE, not loading all those libraries, doesn't apply to me.

          XFCE is GTK, so I don't quite understand what you're saying. If your apps just depend on the GTK libs, and not Gnome libs, then XFCE is a good choice for you.

          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            by drinkypoo (153816)

            Sorry, I meant to say GNOME apps, which would have made the whole thing much clearer. If you want the big high-profile applications they depend on more than just GTK+. Since I already have to use those libraries they might as well load at login time. I have removed gnome-panel which is one of the big drags on startup anyway; I replaced it with avant-window-navigator. You have to go fuck with the gconf in like three places in order to do this... GNOME sometimes makes me think it's an attempt to turn Linux in

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Hurricane78 (562437)

          Please NO. I hope KDE never ever ever kills that, what you call "clutter". Because we people, who tend to *really* *use* their computers, and configure them, hate one-button apps with so configurability at all, and everything at a default that is just riiiiight... for retards.

          In my eyes, the only problem you (non retard, but does not want to configure every shit) users have with KDE, is that you are forced trough huge configuration menus.
          I think it's very easy to make everyone happy. Just separate the setti

          • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

            by MikeBabcock (65886)

            I'm a power-user and a developer. I use the command-line for anything requiring *real* using of my computer. You can't beat command-lines with piping and scripting for *real* power-use, period.

            For my GUI usage, I use Gnome because it looks nice and works well by default. There are certain KDE applications I use because they are better designed than their Gnome counterparts or have been around longer and have better functionality (Kopete and Amarok come to mind), but my desktop is Gnome with several Eterm

            • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

              by Hurricane78 (562437)

              Ok, I can see that.

              I on the other hand, see the following as the ideal user interface:
              A mainly keyboard drive, command-line-like GUI system. Something where you have all the power, and can see the available options before selecting one (the major flaw of the command line). And with good (learning?) presets, so you only have to define non-default settings.

              I would like to see something like that. No matter if it's called Gnome or KDE.
              But having many concurring groups almost always has many benefits.

              Everything

          • Re:Jaunty (Score:5, Insightful)

            by plasticsquirrel (637166) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @11:22AM (#27689009)
            Wow, I could almost cut the smugness in your post with a knife. Apparently people who *really* use computers like to configure everything about them. These people are "advanced" or "power users", while everyone else is a retard or just a normal "user".

            There are many people such as myself who have used plenty of window managers and desktop environments, and who like them to mostly stay out of the way. I don't want to endlessly configure my shiny little windows. If I want to do "real work", then I'll open up a terminal window and use Bash or Python. I'm sure there are plenty of other Slashdotters who take this same approach, judging by the relative popularity here of Ubuntu vs. Kubuntu.

            And really, if you're obsessing about features in your GUI, are you really doing "real work"? The people I see who really care so much about that stuff are often just geeks who like to sit in their rooms and tinker with Linux, not people who are actually doing programming or sysadmin work on it.
            • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

              by Requiem18th (742389)

              This is a good argument against "customize only" desktops (if there are such things). Sane defaults and minimalist interfaces don't exclude highly customizable software.

                I love freedom and competition but I think KDE vs GNOME vs XCFE is a net negative for the FOSS comunity, fortunately you can mix and match.

      • Re:Jaunty (Score:4, Interesting)

        by Locutus (9039) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @02:00PM (#27692227)

        It would be tempting to try the Netbook Remix as an alternate desktop( session type ). Putting all that wasted space in the title bar to use is a great idea. Using Kubuntu, you'd gain another 40*(screen width) pixels across the bottom of the screen and twice that if you were using standard Gnome-based Ubuntu.

        Anyone tried `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-netbook-remix` yet?

        LoB

    • Re:Jaunty (Score:5, Funny)

      by kazade84 (1078337) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:34AM (#27687185)

      So the stability of a release is proportional to the campness of the name? Excellent, so the plan is...

      1. Create a distro called Fluffy Fairy
      2. ???
      3. Profit!

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by SgtPepperKSU (905229)

      Jaunty Jackalope may be the poofiest name for an Ubuntu release yet

      That is probably why that isn't the name of the release...

    • Re:Jaunty (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Radhruin (875377) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @11:10AM (#27688763)

      The whole logging in/out/shutting down process in Ubuntu (Gnome, I guess) needs some major improvements, that's for sure.

      If you share a computer with multiple people, what's the most common task you'll be doing in this arena? Well, suspending the session and logging in. Those options are not at all clear in Gnome. Not even close. Log out will close all of my applications (thankfully I know that, but a novice user from Windows will definitely be frustrated). The only thing I can do is "lock screen", but then someone else in my household wants to use the computer, they're first prompted with a password dialog for my user.

      The whole damn thing is confusing, I think. Which is weird considering that Gnome is supposed to be all about usability... there are so many usability problems with 9.04 I couldn't even list them all. I don't know whose grand vision Gnome is, but man, someone's gotta take the reign and really look at a lot of this stuff from actual users' perspectives.

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by The Warlock (701535)

        There's a panel applet that adds a menu to select what user should be logged in. If you've been updating an existing install since before this applet existed, then it might not be there, but by default on new installs it's in the upper left corner. You just click it, pick a different user, and then they type in their password.

        (of course, I don't bother with separate user accounts on my systems, but the feature is there).

  • Obligitory (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Rik Sweeney (471717) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:15AM (#27686905) Homepage

    Don't forget Kubuntu [kubuntu.org]! It's got KDE 4.2 now!

    • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:23AM (#27687039)

      Yeah no one cares.

    • Re:Obligitory (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Random BedHead Ed (602081) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:13AM (#27687793) Homepage Journal

      Annoyed as I've been at the incompleteness of the various distros' KDE offerings lately, I will dutifully try each release, including Jaunty, if only to see whether anything is horribly broken, and whether I can reliably work with a KDE 4 desktop.

      Last time a Kubuntu came out they broke metadata, at least for JPEG images, so all the photos I manipulated in the shiny new Gwenview lost their dates, orientations, and so on. Not the end of the world, but it was an annoying bug.

      I'm endlessly impressed by KDE's efforts, but the distros totally jumped the gun on the new architecture. The community (even most people in this crowd) totally grokked the idea of "4.0-as-API-freeze" but the distros throught 4.0 meant time to upgrade, and frankly they should have kept 3.5 as the default until the 4 series was truly ready. But again, I'll try it out. Amarok 2 is supposed to be a fantastic music player.

      • Re:Obligitory (Score:4, Insightful)

        by Dragonslicer (991472) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @03:33PM (#27693701)

        I'm endlessly impressed by KDE's efforts, but the distros totally jumped the gun on the new architecture. The community (even most people in this crowd) totally grokked the idea of "4.0-as-API-freeze" but the distros throught 4.0 meant time to upgrade, and frankly they should have kept 3.5 as the default until the 4 series was truly ready.

        I think Kubuntu got stuck a bit with the KDE versions. Kubuntu 8.04 couldn't be LTS, because KDE 4 was definitely not ready, and the KDE developers couldn't promise 3 years of support on KDE 3. I think Kubuntu 8.10 may have been in a similar situation, where the KDE developers didn't plan on supporting KDE 3 for the time that Kubuntu 8.10 is supported by Canonical. With KDE 4.2 working well, Kubuntu 9.04 should be in much better shape.

    • Re:Obligitory (Score:4, Informative)

      by ultrabot (200914) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:16AM (#27687831)

      Yeah, with Qt 4.5 (which is snappier than Qt 4.4, the "official" Qt for Kde 4.2).

    • Re:Obligitory (Score:4, Insightful)

      by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:29AM (#27688055)

      I've been toying around with KDE 4.2 and I've ended up with mixed feelings about it. It seems like a usable environment - far better than the 4.x version that Ubuntu infamously shipped earlier. And there's certainly a nice sheen of polish and flash. But I also get a feeling of "clunkiness" with this new release that wasn't there on my olde KDE 3.x environment. And I can't say that I'm a fan of the direction the Konqueror filemanager has taken (seems like Nautilus for KDE).

      What ultimately had me going back to Gnome (and Compiz) was playing WoW. For some reason, WoW (and Ventrilo) will lock up with a repeating loud sound at seemingly random intervals. This happened on KDE3.5 on very rare occasions in the past - I suspect when I had Flash running in another desktop. But with KDE4.2 it happens a lot more often. No clue why. But it's not happening in Gnome.

      KDE is going in an interesting direction. I'm a fan of flash and change so this has some appeal to me (otherwise I'd use one of these minimalist windows managers that keep getting mentioned in these types of stories). But it strikes me that the KDE folks are taking one of those bold steps that tends to risk everything. I hope it works out.

      I'd definitely recommend people give it a try; see if it works for them. Unless you have a KDE3.x desktop that you're really happy with and cringe at Gnome's apparent design philosophy.

    • So, I'm a die-hard KDE user. I'm all excited about the new release! I can't wait to upgrade to a KDE that's actually useful as opposed to the get-lost-this-is-for-developers-only version. So I check out the release web page [kubuntu.org], and I see that there are a few known issues here:

      1. Connection to non-broadcasting (hidden SSID) wireless networks with the network-manager widget isn't possible Bug 330811
      2. Network Manager does not connect to some networks Bug 339313
      3. Network Manager is not added to the panel on upgrades
  • Just installed ... (Score:5, Informative)

    by sygin (659338) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:16AM (#27686915)
    Love the encrypted home folder option. Default disk burning application has improved. Faster boot, seems faster overall (newer GCC?). Well done to all involved.
  • by BayaWeaver (1048744) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:18AM (#27686951)
    Can it boot persistently from the SD of my Eee PC 900 and will the wifi just work out of the box? Have never been able to get any of the earlier releases to do these two things.
  • by troll8901 (1397145) <troll8901@gmail.com> on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:20AM (#27686969) Journal

    I just came from IRC (irc.freenode.net #ubuntu-release-party). It's like the Times Square New Year Party in there.

    On the clock at about 1 pm GMT, the Ubuntu website was updated, and the servers at ubuntu.com were immediately IRCdotted.
    And now, we're going to Slashdot Ubuntu.com as well!

    Get your torrents at
    http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ [ubuntu.com]

  • Please.... (Score:5, Informative)

    by kazade84 (1078337) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:21AM (#27686993)

    Firstly, can we get an Ubuntu icon yet?

    This release is awesome, I've been running it on my laptop, desktop and work PC for some time and it's been rock solid.

    That said. There is one VERY VERY annoying thing that changed in this release. The update notification icon is no longer there unless you fiddle around with gconf. Instead you are treated to an automated "pop-under" launch of the full update manager window once a week unless it's a security update in which case it's 2 days. I dunno if this behavior has changed recently but that was the design a few weeks ago.

    So that means:
    a.) You probably wont know about feature/bug updates for a week.
    b.) You probably wont know about security fixes for 2 days (even if it's urgent)
    c.) You will get a window appear out of nowhere behind all your current windows launched seemingly by itself (yeh coz that's not gonna scare Windows migrants)

    What a great idea! NOT!

    P.S if you wanna revert to the old behavior, run gconf-editor. Go to apps->update-notifier and uncheck "auto-launch".

  • At some point computers will be good enough, that it will be more work to upgrade it than it is to use it.
    Ubuntu really is becoming quite easy to use - still some wackiness with 64 bit computing, and Flash, but otherwise pretty dang easy.

  • I installed the release candidate last week, and it lasted for all of 25 minutes before it ate my desktop. I love being on the bleeding edge, but it doesn't make life easier or more productive, just more interesting.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:28AM (#27687097)

    I realize it's mostly the fault of Intel, but it would be nice if the modern (2 years old) Intel chips worked well with Linux.

    I went with Intel instead of Nvidia in my laptop so I would have a more stable computer than using the binary blog nvidia provides. (and I don't game) Boy, had I known Intel would totally drop the ball I would have went with Nvidia. Ubuntu doesn't seem to be interested in pushing the issue at all, saying 'it's an upstream problem'. I got burned the same way with the g400 and it's so called open source drivers a decade ago. It took them almost 4 years to get them out the door, and they sucked when they were out.

    It's a real sad the best video support on linux is from closed source nvidia drivers and their competitors don't even care.

    Check out the list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bugs [launchpad.net]

    So, back on topic, does anybody know how horrid Intel video is in this final release? I need to decide if I'm going to upgrade or not, last I heard it's even worse and locks up after a few minutes. I have an x3100/GM965.

    • by MarcQuadra (129430) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:03AM (#27687617)

      I've been using Linux on integrated Intel chipsets since the i810 driver came out and I have no complaints.

      I had no complaints with the i810, the i815, the i915, the G33, or the G45 that I currently use. There was one Ubuntu release where the resolution setting didn't match the documentation, so I had to enter some manual stuff into xorg.conf, but before and since then, things have been gravy.

      A lot of these bugs look like they're for things that I can't give good marks to -any- drivers, like switching displays on laptops, enabling compositing on ancient chips (really?! why bother!) and other foolishness.

      Really, Intel doesn't make great 3D graphics chips, everyone knows that. If you actually want fast 3D, pick someone who fabs hardware that can handle it. The Intel -drivers- on the other hand, are hands-down the most supported and functional open-source drivers that I've used.

      Intel not only releases the specs for their hardware, they sponsor the development of the drivers in a totally open-source-friendly way.

      If you have complaints about 3D in Linux on integrated Intel graphics chipsets, you'll probably have the same complaints about 3D in Windows on Integrated Intel chipsets. Intel isn't in the mid-to-high-end market, they make excellent 2D chipsets that do 3D 'well enough' for casual non-gaming use.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by denominateur (194939)

      I agree with you that this issue seems to have been thoroughly ignored by the release engineers, who pushed the 2.6 driver through despite its downfalls. (apparently to gain support for some newer chipsets, which could've been simply backported by adding PCI ID's to the 2.4 driver)

      Compositing and 3D performance are horrid and even non-composited 2D is slow when EXA is used. Apparently, if you're lucky you can switch to UXA, but it is non-functional on my systems. (G35: no modes found & i915: DRI disable

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:31AM (#27687139)

    Which will undoubtedly be named Masturbating Monkey.

  • Still Brown? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Henry V .009 (518000) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:31AM (#27687143) Journal
    Weren't they going to ditch the brown already? I thought I read a Slashdot story about Ubuntu getting a new theme that doesn't attempt to inspire retching subliminally.
  • by Umangme (1337019) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:42AM (#27687299)

    Major changes:

    • Improved boot performance. It may just breach 20s on newer systems.
    • GNOME 2.26. (I don't think there are many changes to look out for)
    • OpenOffice 3.0. Hopfully this has a better interface than 2.4.
    • New notification system. Looks good in Shuttleworth's video. This is possibly the biggest improvement in the average user's eyes. I'm looking forward to seeing it in practice, but I have a feeling that they'll actually work well only in Karmic.
    • Ext4 Support. It will be the default in Karmic. Filesystem support should affect the average user, so nothing new for the average user here. Many people are still on ext2, and may still be when Karmic comes.

    The Jaunty overview [ubuntu.com] should be put on the main page of Ubuntu.com. It really is pointless making that page otherwise. Instead an Ubuntu tour [ubuntu.com] for 9.04 is the main link from the website. That tour really doesn't make Ubuntu sound like a very advanced OS.

    Though I haven't upgraded to Jaunty as yet, I don't believe it is something the average user should get excited about. Karmic may.

  • Call me old but... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by clickclickdrone (964164) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @09:54AM (#27687487)
    Having 'Remix' in an operating system's name is a big turnoff. It immedietely marks it as nerdware and is going to cause most 'normal' users to balk at the idea of going near it. Sometimes Linux really does shoot itself in the foot.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Culture20 (968837)
      I'm a nerd, and I have no idea what "remix" is, beyond a music industry term. And no, I won't justf'ngoogleit.
  • In a stunning public relations coup, Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ: MNPLY) has successfully overshadowed today's release of Ubuntu Linux 9.04 "Jaunty Jubblies" [today.com] by announcing its failed financials for a fourth quarter in a row and laying even more people off.

    Microsoft announced new and expanded roles for remaining key executives as another several lesser, losing quitters deserted upper management. "It shows the fantastic opportunity available to everyone at Microsoft to climb seven or eight reporting levels up the org chart," said marketing marketer Steve Ballmer to pitchfork-wielding Wall Street analysts today. "If we haven't laid them off for making too much money or not kissing enough ass."

    The Yahoo! deal is expected to go ahead. "We figure they'll go broke before we do. Probably." Mr Ballmer also plans to run the Yahoo! servers on Windows NT rather than FreeBSD after a similar change worked so well at Hotmail. "Some say synergy's another word for two plus two equals one, but you just have to make the value of one work for you."

    Windows 7 betas have been greeted with remarkable positive press. "Of course, the betas preview the 'champagne and hookers' edition, which would be way too much for netbooks and explode users' brains. Imagine thinking those little things are computers! So we're releasing what we call Windows 7 Dumbass Edition. It lets you log in and look at the shiny. Even Spider Solitaire has the ribbon toolbar! And you can buy an upgrade to the version that runs programs! It lets you do that!" Dumbass Edition comes with pre-installed viruses to make the computer part of the Storm, Conficker and FBI botnets. "If you can't beat ’em, join ’em."

    However, Microsoft has indicated to its press corps, Microsoft Completely Enderlependent Analysts, to ixnay on the evensay and highlight the job openings for work on Windows 8, firmly penciled in for a 2012 release. Windows 8 will be optimised for low-end 32-core systems with a mere 16 gigabytes of memory — 28 cores for the interface, 3 cores for the DRM and one core for everything else. "Seven is just so this year. I hear they'll get $DATABASE_FILESYSTEM done next release for sure!" said ZDNet marketing marketer Mary-Jo Enderle. "It'll be awesome!"

    "I'm sure it'll be fine, fine," said Bill Gates, upping his hours at his charitable foundation and scheduling the sale of several more packages of Microsoft stock.

    Larry Ellison of Oracle, who recently purchased Sun Microsystems, merely snickered, muttered "Java. OpenOffice." and let out a long and resounding laugh.

    Mark Shuttleworth of Canonical, speaking from his castle on a crag high on a mountaintop in west London, was sanguine at Ubuntu's news being overshadowed. "I lost ten million dollars on Ubuntu last year. I'm losing ten million dollars on Ubuntu this year. I expect to lose ten million dollars on Ubuntu next year. At this rate, I'll be broke in ... sixty years."

  • by revjtanton (1179893) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:01AM (#27687581) Homepage Journal

    Jaunty Jackelope is certainly worth a download. I've been using it on my eeePC 900 with the Ubuntu Netbook Remix (UNR) for a month and while its got its shortcomings, overall its the best OS I'v used with my netbook.

    The greatest plus is Ext4. I know that isn't an Ubuntu exclusive upgrade or anything (Fedora 11 is going to offer the option of installing to a Ext4 partition) but combine that w/ my SSD and I boot in like 23 seconds flat...I don't even bother "putting the pc to sleep" since I boot so quick, I just shut down.

    The downfall that I found with this release, and Intrepid Ibex, is w/ the eeePC hardware and graphics tiling. Basically the kernal being used in the release candidate has some issues threading the graphics processing and you get signifigant and annoying lag in the UNR interface...but only there. If you open any app it runs as normal, but the UNR interface lags like a son of a bitch. A patched kernal update did fix this however that fix was reverted due to other issues and as of yet a new kernal patch addressing all issues has not been released. You and review the details of the bug here [launchpad.net]. The .41 kernal is what is shipping and the .40 kernel is what works w/ the eeePC. If you want to install your own kernel you can get the .40 here [launchpad.net].

    The use of Ext4 makes this a true upgrade and a reason to install a new build. Enjoy!

  • by DiegoBravo (324012) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:04AM (#27687631) Journal

    At least in my country and LATAM in general, I think the Server Edition only could thrive if Oracle Server can be certified at some time. As each day pass on, this looks more difficult.

    In general, I fail to understand the Canonical offering of Ubuntu Server compared to CentOS/RedHat Servers (or even Suse).

  • by bcrowell (177657) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @10:14AM (#27687809) Homepage

    I tested the waters a couple of weeks ago by downloading the prerelease version of Jaunty as an iso and burning it to a live cd. My machine wouldn't boot from the live cd (started to boot, didn't complete the process). I don't have any trouble booting from a live cd of other versions of Ubuntu, and this machine currently has intrepid, which works fine. It's an x64 box.

    Is anyone else having problems like this? I'm definitely chicken to upgrade if there's a risk of making my system unbootable. I'm all in favor of shorter boot times, but it does have to boot.

    The impression I generally get is that it's a good idea to wait at least a few weeks before upgrading to a newly released version of ubuntu.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Locklin (1074657)

      Mount the cdrom on a running system, cd to that directory and run:

      $ md5sum -c md5sum.txt

      It will check the md5sum of each file on the cdrom and report if anything is corrupted.

  • by dbc001 (541033) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @12:17PM (#27690107)
    I just installed the RC the other day, and unfortunately I've seen several crashes and freezes - mainly when switching users and when trying to run Boxee and Sauerbraten.
  • by Doc Ruby (173196) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @12:33PM (#27690417) Homepage Journal

    I've been using Ubuntu on my Inspiron i8000 notebook since v6.04. But starting v8.10, the minimum RAM requirements nearly exceeded the 512 max RAM the notebook can hold. With a small app or two running it's right at 512MB used. Running Evolution or especially Firefox puts it far over, grinding the whole machine to a halt as it constantly swaps. To make matters worse, the nVidia GeForce2Go GPU doesn't seem supported by compvis, so the GPU doesn't offload the CPU for lots of graphics.

    I'm hoping the 9.04 release now might possibly have some upgrade that relieves the RAM pressure. But I expect it will just get worse. Is there any simple way to trim the minimum RAM requirements of Ubuntu down below say 300MB (without losing GNOME)? Maybe if there's a simple way to convert the machine into just an X server to a separate faster box across the LAN, without saturating the LAN. Or maybe I finally have to kiss goodbye my 7 year old notebook and its fabulous 1600x1200 LCD.

  • First things first (Score:3, Interesting)

    by ThatsNotPudding (1045640) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @01:02PM (#27691053)
    Remove all Mono-based applications and install MonoNoNo to keep the MS-backed trojan horses out. http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php?title=Mono_Applications [boycottnovell.com]
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Matt Perry (793115)

      Could you please explain why we should do this? Are you so opposed to a particular programming language that you would remove software that was written in this language? Do you also not install programs that were written in C++, preferring only to use programs written in C?

  • by shutdown -p now (807394) on Thursday April 23, 2009 @04:43PM (#27694697) Journal

    It is very unfortunate that the Eclipse package has been stuck at 3.2 [launchpad.net] in Ubuntu repos for several major releases already (the most recent version of Eclipse is currently 3.4.2). Given that Eclipse is one of the best FOSS IDEs out there (with only NetBeans being comparable - better in some things, worse in others), it is surprising that the effectively "#1 desktop Linux" can afford to alienate developers like that.

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