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Shuttleworth Announces Karmic Koala 305

An anonymous reader writes to mention that Mark Shuttleworth has announced the next release in the horribly alliterative Ubuntu family, "Karmic Koala." The new version hopes to include a newer, shinier, faster startup, better small screen support, a spruced-up desktop look (no more brown), and many minor tweaks and updates. "A newborn Koala spends about six months in the family before it heads off into the wild alone. Sounds about perfect for an Ubuntu release plan! I'm looking forward to seeing many of you in Barcelona, and before that, at a Jaunty release party. Till then, cheers."
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Shuttleworth Announces Karmic Koala

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20, 2009 @04:09PM (#26933923)

    Am I the only one who likes the brown color scheme?

    I find that it's easy on the eyes without being outright drab, but maybe that's just me.

  • by bluefoxlucid ( 723572 ) on Friday February 20, 2009 @04:11PM (#26933961) Homepage Journal
    I actually thought this was a joke when I first read it. Especially with the cloud computing bullshit.
  • Re:Another one! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by HTH NE1 ( 675604 ) on Friday February 20, 2009 @04:13PM (#26934005)

    I just wonder if the next will be Leaping Lizard.

  • by morgan_greywolf ( 835522 ) on Friday February 20, 2009 @04:21PM (#26934109) Homepage Journal

    Am I the only one who likes the brown color scheme?

    Yes.

    I find that it's easy on the eyes without being outright drab, but maybe that's just me.

    Look up drab in the dictionary, and you'll find a screenshot of an Ubuntu desktop running the Human theme. ;)

    Seriously, I love Ubuntu. My license plate says "UBUNTU". (Really). But the brown color scheme sucks. The only brown color scheme I've ever liked at all is the one from the original and GTK2 versions of the 'Gorilla' theme from Ximian Gnome. The one from the Ubuntu Human theme is putrid.

    One of the first things I do when I install a new Ubuntu system is to change the default theme to 'Clearlooks', which is the same GTK2 engine, but has a nice blue eggshell color scheme, vaguely reminiscent of Windows XP, but not as blatant as the eXPerience theme.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20, 2009 @04:28PM (#26934211)

    How about the RAM/disk footprint? I'd like to know if it's getting leaner.

  • by DrLang21 ( 900992 ) on Friday February 20, 2009 @04:33PM (#26934269)
    I quite enjoy the brown color scheme. It looks clean and professional while being easy on the eyes.
  • by Aphoxema ( 1088507 ) on Friday February 20, 2009 @04:35PM (#26934293) Journal

    I've got sick on blue from Windows and OS X, Ubuntu's theme was liberating when I first set eyes on in and until the Darkroom theme came along I never really felt the need to change it.

  • by Ungrounded Lightning ( 62228 ) on Friday February 20, 2009 @04:35PM (#26934299) Journal

    ... is that it scatters its seeds by explosion, into the remains of a forest fire (which it promotes via its extremely flammable sap and the tinder pile of leaves and shed bark it creates around itself - apparently "in the hope of" getting the fire started B-) ). A row of eucalyptus trees during a fire can become the equivalent of a walking artillery barrage targeting a fuel dump.

    So I certainly wouldn't want to compute on a eucalyptus cluster - even if it is a "cloud" floating far away (like over the Berkeley Hills - high enough to be visible from I5 north of Sacramento). I'd worry about it taking out the data center and my data with it and "distributing" it up to the tropopause and onward with the prevailing wind.

    As for my laptop, no WAY I'll install any eucalyptus package on that. It's got enough problem with those lithium batteries with the energy density of a hand grenade without adding something more with the energy density of napalm.

    = = = =

    And I thought Ubuntu had an unfortunate choice of names. Good grief!

  • Re:Another one! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Hognoxious ( 631665 ) on Friday February 20, 2009 @04:49PM (#26934483) Homepage Journal

    We are honoured to witness the birth of the "verbal rickroll".

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20, 2009 @04:57PM (#26934597)

    It's 2009. Over twenty years since the original Macintosh was released. Twenty years since the fundamentals of UI element spacing, text rendering, text kerning, verticle and horizontal text alignment, colour usage...

    And the latest Ubuntu, the 'gold standard' for Linux desktops, is a complete mess:

    * Text kerning problems all over the place

    * Alignment problems in almost every single text field or label

    * Almost random colour choice for UI elements

    * UI elements having no consistent alignment or spacing

    * UI elements that look like they come from some amateur 1990s Mac/Windows clone

    Honestly, the toy apps I throw together in Interface Builder look like polished commercial grade software compared to almost everything I see in Linux. I can only assume that there is no standard Linux UI building tool equal to Interface Builder.

    Microsoft is on the ropes with Vista and frantically rushing Win7 out the door. Cheap netbooks are doing major damage to the OS profit margins.

    And Linux continues to be a UI train wreck. Silly names. Stupid package management with insane dependencies. Redundant and competing desktops. License wars. Mass duplication of common apps with each version sucking in their own unique ways and no single app every getting to the point of being a drop in replacement for commercial Mac/Windows versions.

    Even something as trivial as the damn Solitaire app looks like a complete piece of shit.

    Boggle.

  • by argux ( 568146 ) <dazu.huike@gmail.cSTRAWom minus berry> on Friday February 20, 2009 @06:11PM (#26935561) Homepage

    I often wonder why is it that everybody hates the brown color scheme. Actually that's one of the things that makes me feel right at home when I have just installed an Ubuntu system. That and the drums. It kinda makes you forget that you're looking at a Gnome desktop. Of course, then you get to use it and immediately start searching for a replacement desktop. But those first five minutes are really nice.

    Actually I would have preferred it if Kubuntu had picked up a similar color scheme, or at least to have an option for a Human theme.

    Now that they're going to replace it, I hope it remains an option for those of us who love it.

  • Re:Killing Kangaroo (Score:2, Interesting)

    by PybusJ ( 30549 ) on Friday February 20, 2009 @07:03PM (#26936189)

    The real name is 9.10. Slashdot is the most depressing when a new Ubuntu release is being announced. It's all about the color brown and names, like in fucking kindergarten.

    Ubuntu do rather ask for it by making their codenames so prominent (a habit inherited from Debian) and by talking so much about the colour themselves (Mark even mentioned it again in the announcement).

    Personally, I'm rather excited to see Eucalyptus given this level of support by a major distro; it's a project I've been interested by recently and full support in Ubuntu would be great for setting up internal 'clouds'.

    I also rather like the brown theme. I don't really like the cool-blue tones of most desktop environments and appreciate the warmth of Ubuntu themes. Not that it makes a huge amount of difference anyway, the whole of my monitor is covered with terminal windows and web pages.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 20, 2009 @07:06PM (#26936213)

    Seriously. I left the default desktop background for a month or so after I did a fresh install of 8.10. At least half a dozen people in my office said something to the effect of 'That's a cool background!'.

    Sure the coffee-stained leather looking thing gets a bit old after a while but it is definitely not any worse than rolling green hills with blue skies and multicolored windows!

  • by Facegarden ( 967477 ) on Friday February 20, 2009 @08:16PM (#26936905)

    So... when will I be able to use multiple displays without having two separate X sessions? You can't drag things between sessions so that approach is useless, and I don't want one virtual display where everything full screen is kicked between the two either. I want two screens. Is that so hard? It's part of the reason i rarely use ubuntu at home!
    -taylor

  • by Radhruin ( 875377 ) on Friday February 20, 2009 @09:33PM (#26937483)
    I've noticed a lot (A LOT) of problems along these lines, and it really gets to me (I suspect that the metrics for a lot of the fonts that are distributed with Ubuntu are completely off)... but how do I categorize and report the bug in such a way that it's useful? Take a screencap of a website that uses a specific font that looks terrible? Is that a bug in Firefox, Cairo, the font itself, Ubuntu, or what?
  • by dotancohen ( 1015143 ) on Saturday February 21, 2009 @07:01AM (#26939747) Homepage

    That's why I mentioned Novell and Redhat as two places to file bugs will they will be solved, and not ignored. If you can cite specific examples, I will happily help get the bugs filed at the right places.

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