Java Trial Support Coming In Linux Standard Base 126
LinuxScribe writes "Java isn't in the LSB — yet. It's been a hard target to hit: which version gets standardized? How will test suites work? But the new version of LSB will take the first steps towards Java inclusion in standardized Linux development by introducing trial support for the language."
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It took off like a rocket and then Intel dumped it for an RPM-based distro [desktoplinux.com].
Go figure.
It just goes to show that Ubuntu being popular has nothing to do with it's packaging system OR anything to do with it being any good as a distribution. Mark Shuttleworth really knows how to market things..
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I agree. These days I'm not sure an advantage truly exists going with .DEB over .RPM or vice-versa. I also don't believe that Ubuntu is any better than other distros. I too credit Shuttleworth's fantastic marketing skills.
My point is that while the LSB is a great idea (that I'd like to see gain more support) but I'm worried that the LSB will become less important as major distros like Ubuntu (and its derivatives) ignore it.
And your point is what? (Score:4, Insightful)
Should we abandon LSB and embrace chaos, or should we try to make it work? Just because people are not adhering 100% to a standard, that does not make it useless or irrelevant. Look at SQL or even POSIX.
Anyone can whine about perceived problems. What do you think should be done to fix LSB?
Fix it! (Score:3, Insightful)
We have nothing else. POSIX is insufficient. We need LSB. It needs to work. Even in its current state it keeps Linux from turning into a nebulous mess.
Re:Every language is an emulator (Score:3, Insightful)
Perl is a program that imitates a piece of hardware, too. Just it because it doesn't happen to exist doesn't mean that it's not an emulator.
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What if the number of debian-based distros is based on the deficiencies of debian. ;)
But seriously, I don't see that yum is inferior to apt. For me, RedHat/Fedora has always had things laid out pretty well. Fedora has forged ahead with new ideas with real code (e.g. NetworkManager). Related to this article, is RedHat funding development of IcedTea. I hope that Java does make it into the LSB. It might force some further thinking on how to manage java packages on a system.