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How Dell Is Making Ubuntu Linux More Attractive 160

CWmike writes "Dell was the first of the major computer manufacturers to support pre-installed Linux, but it's not just pre-installing Linux. The Austin, Tex. company is also adding functionality to Ubuntu Linux on its desktops and laptops, writes Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols. It began by adding DVD-playback to its systems shipping with Ubuntu 7.10. With the recent release of Dell PCs with Ubuntu 8.04, Dell is now including 'Fluendo GStreamer codecs for mp3, wma (Windows Media Audio), and wmv (Windows Media Video) playback' in its latest Ubuntu-powered desktops and laptops. On Ubuntu systems with ATI or NIVDIA graphics, Dell also now supports HDMI output. Yesterday, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said his company hopes to steal a page from Apple's playbook and change how it works with hardware makers in an attempt to duplicate its rival's success. Is OS customization the way forward for desktop Linux, and Windows?"
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How Dell Is Making Ubuntu Linux More Attractive

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  • not really (Score:1, Informative)

    by A little Frenchie ( 715758 ) on Saturday July 26, 2008 @06:43PM (#24352047)
    Canadian website

    I just did a quick test, the Inspiron 1525(Windows) and 1525N(Linux)

    same specs, the Linux system cost 350$ more than the windows one

    http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=windowsol0.jpg [imageshack.us]
    http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=linuxmq5.jpg [imageshack.us]
  • Re:Restore discs? (Score:5, Informative)

    by bmo ( 77928 ) on Saturday July 26, 2008 @07:00PM (#24352205)

    Your argument fails on 3 fronts:

    1. It presupposes that most/all elderly are stupid.

    2. It's easier to install the major Linux distributions than it is to install Windows of any flavor.

    3. The need for restore disks isn't as vital as for Windows.

          A. Windows users think it's normal to wipe and reinstall every quarter.
          B. Linux doesn't have a half-life/slowdown rate. See 4.

    4. The cause of needing restore disks is usually infection. While technically Linux is vulnerable to security problems, the number of "in the wild" Linux viruses is currently 0. Most, if not all, Linux trojans need some sort of user interaction to work. One needs to deliberately shoot one's self in the foot for them to work. Microsoft would do everyone a lot of favors in this department by abandoning Active Yecchs and abandoning the use of 3 magic letters at the end of a filename to determine executability.

    5. It's easier to remotely admin through ssh Great Aunt Midlred's Linux machine than it is to go over to her house. While that's more convenient, I guess the drawback is the lack of cookies. (case in point, I went over to a friend's house the other weekend because he screwed up flash and java. I could have done it from my house, but I wanted to hang out and have beer and chourico sandwiches).

    --
    BMO - We do what we must because we can

  • Re:Restore discs? (Score:2, Informative)

    by superm1 ( 1123117 ) on Saturday July 26, 2008 @07:22PM (#24352387)
    Yes they come with a framework for creating recovery disks as well as a recovery partition on the hard drive.
  • by kenh ( 9056 ) on Saturday July 26, 2008 @07:28PM (#24352427) Homepage Journal

    It's not that hard to find Open Source/Ubuntu systems on the Dell US site:

    Open www.dell.com, choose "For Home", then click "Laptop" from the drop-down menu. Open Source systems are linked under the heading "PC Operating Systems" on the left side menu (bottom of menu).

    Or, www.dell.com, choose "For Office > Small Business", then click "Desktop" from the drop-down menu. Open Source systems are listed under "FreeDOS and Linux Desktops"

    Now, as for the selection of systems, I'm happy with the systems they offer ($WORK just bought a fleet of new "N Series" desktops (Optiplex 755n to be exact), and there was a fine selection of hardware/upgrades available (including ATI discrete graphics cards)...

    If they really wanted to hide them, they could have done a much better job of it... I think if I were truely looking for a system with no OS/Ubuntu, I could find it quite easily.

  • by linuxboredom ( 1054516 ) on Saturday July 26, 2008 @08:19PM (#24352935)

    Dell are releasing BIOS upgrades for their laptops to cope with the Nvidia weak component problem (basically the fan will spin up sooner). This includes the laptop models that come with Linux preinstalled. Except there's no BIOS updater that will run under Linux; they're all Windows [direct2dell.com] based (although if you have a DOS floppy knocking around you can use that)

    Umm...Dell has a Linux BIOS updater in its SMBIOS library [dell.com]. The only downside is that you might have to install wine for the image extraction (though it says it is still doable without).

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 26, 2008 @08:39PM (#24353139)
    (although if you have a DOS floppy knocking around you can use that)

    What the hell? You have such a low userID ... how can you possibly not know about Free DOS [wikipedia.org]?

    I have never been unable to apply a BIOS update using a bootable Free DOS CD. (And prior to that, OpenDOS.) There's an ISO at the Free DOS website. It doesn't get any easier than that. So what was your complaint again?
  • by Hektor_Troy ( 262592 ) on Saturday July 26, 2008 @08:50PM (#24353207)

    An Atom CPU is a modern CPU ... and I sincerely doubt that it could hand'e 1080p h.264 even at full speed.

  • by yomegaman ( 516565 ) on Saturday July 26, 2008 @08:59PM (#24353285)

    "Codices" is the plural of codex (i.e. book), not codec. Unless the summary really does mean that Dell is throwing in a collection of books from Fluendo about the mp3, wma, and wmv formats, in which case I apologize.

  • by techno-vampire ( 666512 ) on Saturday July 26, 2008 @10:06PM (#24353771) Homepage
    Yes, even the camera requires a driver to transfer pictures.

    Unless she bought a toy digital camera with a non-standard chipset, it should have worked fine. Either digiKam or f-spot should have been able to find and download the photos. If not, the camera should have shown up on the desktop and you could have used copy/paste to get them onto the hard disk. Sounds like Granny was talked into buying a cheap camera instead of a good one.

  • by irussel ( 78667 ) on Saturday July 26, 2008 @11:18PM (#24354329)

    Go to the Dell site and try to find a Linux laptop. It's quite hard to find.

    um, maybe try http://www.dell.com/ubuntu [dell.com]?

  • Re:not really (Score:4, Informative)

    by nschubach ( 922175 ) on Sunday July 27, 2008 @02:52AM (#24355639) Journal

    Who would have figured processors would be so different in price...

    I redid your test on the US site using the SAME hardware:
    Windows ($824): http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1341/dellwindowsze8.png [imageshack.us]
    Ubuntu ($749): http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3127/dellubuntusp9.png [imageshack.us]

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