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Asus Set To Release Desktop Eee PC Variant 171

the_leander writes "The Register has pictures of the desktop version of Asus's Eee PC, reportedly called the 'Ebox.' It will be released early next month after it has been unveiled publicly at Computex in Taipei on June 3. It'll come equipped with the same Xandros Linux distribution as the Eee, though it's likely that Windows XP will be available also. But given the probable choice for CPU, Atom, ithe Ebox is unlikely to allow for the use of Vista, unless you're something of a masochist. It's expected to retail for $200-$300."
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Asus Set To Release Desktop Eee PC Variant

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  • by Profane MuthaFucka ( 574406 ) <busheatskok@gmail.com> on Tuesday May 27, 2008 @03:15AM (#23552893) Homepage Journal
    Pretty is just as cheap to mass produce as ugly. GM should take a lesson.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 27, 2008 @03:22AM (#23552927)
    There is a distro called ebox.

    http://ebox-platform.com/ [ebox-platform.com]
  • Mythfrontend box (Score:5, Interesting)

    by pembo13 ( 770295 ) on Tuesday May 27, 2008 @03:22AM (#23552929) Homepage
    That's what I thought when I saw it. Sweet deal.
  • Wow... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by RuBLed ( 995686 ) on Tuesday May 27, 2008 @03:32AM (#23552983)
    It's like a portable desktop...

    Seriously, if it is slim and small enough I can clearly think of several nice uses. It's a perfect living room pc, a kitchen computer ( I dont want my mom to get my laptop dirty when browsing recipes ), a car pc (someone would definitely do this), what else.. ohhh.. and a beowulf cluster, imagine a server rack of these..
  • by jkrise ( 535370 ) on Tuesday May 27, 2008 @03:47AM (#23553045) Journal
    People buy desktops for connecting to backend office infrastructure, and sad to say, the Windows-Office lockin still rules in this space. Skype and other stuff like Image manipulation might make sense in the Home Linux market, but there are already plenty cheap hardware out there that can run Linux for under $200. The gBox for one.

    So Asus will find it very hard to push these desktops unless they race to the bottom. Which might rule out Windows XP as well.
  • Inside Keyboard? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 27, 2008 @03:48AM (#23553053)
    It would be great if they put PC inside medium - sized keyboard (desktop keyboard minus numeric part). Everywhere I go, there is TV or Monitor with DVI/HDMI, and what I would like to have is cheap $200 Amiga 500-like (but slim) computer with flash HDD, no DVD, Atom CPU with passive cooling. I know there is one company creating expensive over-sized PC-inside-keyboard computers, with DVD and everything, but thats not it.
  • by dominique_cimafranca ( 978645 ) on Tuesday May 27, 2008 @03:56AM (#23553083) Homepage

    People won't just buy it for its price or features, they'll also buy it for the wow factor. If the production cost difference is minimal, why not go the extra distance?

    Where I am, the EeePC is outselling other competitors (Classmate, Astone UMPC) precisely because of that. Sure, it's pricier, but you won't get embarrassed whipping it out in a café.

    Looks like the EBox was designed to look like a Wii.

  • by zakezuke ( 229119 ) on Tuesday May 27, 2008 @03:57AM (#23553089)

    I would have thought you could shave at least $50 off the price if you built it in a really boring, plain case, without silly stands or LED buttons...
    I don't know what it costs to manufacture PC cases. I would guess $10 to $15 for a cheap one with a power supply. While you can get away with some cheap sheet metal, there are those folds for the card cage. This thing looks like you can mass produce it in a mold without those pesky inside folds or rivets. I mean it looks nice, but I'm thinking the price mark would be similar to that of a regular PC case.

    Also, I think also tried their hand at beige box PCs. I had a couple of hand me downs which were not quite to atx spec, though for the life of me I don't remember the issue. Going cheap isn't going to do a company any good if no bugger buys it.

     
  • by Idaho ( 12907 ) on Tuesday May 27, 2008 @04:46AM (#23553305)

    Exactly, I wondered the same thing, its just trolling, it would almost be as relevant if [..]


    You must have missed the memo, but Microsoft does not want you to be able to buy XP anymore. Everyone is supposed to move to Vista. So it is *most definitely* newsworthy if manufacturers are introducing *new products* a year and a half (!!) after Vista has been released to the public, *and they explicitly do not support the newest Microsoft OS at all*, although they do support the previous version - even though you're not even supposed to be able to buy that version anymore, at least not without jumping through all kinds of hoops. Hello? I consider this to be extremely newsworthy.

    It's not designed to run Vista, therefore it does not necessitate any reference to Vista, it probably wouldnt run Ubuntu very well either, or OSX...

    The EEE Laptops run Ubuntu just fine. I would be very surprised if these desktop versions wouldn't. Whether you could turn them into a Hackintosh is kindof a moot point IMO, but probably you could, at least if OS X happens to support the specific hardware they used. Please "get the facts" first next time, thanks.
  • by Aranykai ( 1053846 ) <slgonserNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Tuesday May 27, 2008 @04:56AM (#23553341)

    A Mac Mini is not that much more in price, and is virtually immune to browser exploits and attacks from remote.
    You must be new here...

  • So, have you bothered to check Amazons Bestsellers in Computers & PC Hardware [amazon.com] list lately? (Amazon being by far the largest online reseller that sells Apple, Asus EEE PC as well as Vista laptops?). The list updates hourly, but currently the first Vista laptop is at spot number 4.

    It's also worth looking at customer satisfaction, as indicated by the customer reviews. Each of the Apple machines has a review average of 4.5/5 starts; the EEEPC has a review average of 5/5; the first Vista PC has a review average of 3/5. Not only are the non-Vista laptops selling very well, but the people who buy them are happier with what they get for their money - both at the high end and at the low end.

  • by the_leander ( 759904 ) on Tuesday May 27, 2008 @06:37AM (#23553841) Journal

    The Atom CPU in this thing (even the single core variant) will run Vista fine (assuming the rest of the machine is up to snuff, of course).
    I stand corrected.

    It does however make you wonder then why Asus seems to be going out of it's way to not offer Vista over XP.

    When this device was previewed in January it was made abundantly clear that XP would be the only Microsoft option offered.

    If it's not due to technical reasons (I'll take your word on the fact that a low power cpu will allow for a graceful experience with Vista), perhaps cost?
  • by timrichardson ( 450256 ) * on Tuesday May 27, 2008 @07:39AM (#23554131) Homepage
    I asked a shop in the central business district of Melbourne how the EEE laptop Linux machines were selling now that Asus provides a Microsoft system (with lower hardware specs to compensate for the cost of the OS). The answer was that the Windows version was strongly outselling the Linux version. However, Linux market share is about 0.7% so even if the Windows version is selling 10 to 1, the Linux version is still helping Linux get market share.
    For the record, I use Debian and for an EEE PC I would recommend to consumers to use the Linux version.
  • by mangu ( 126918 ) on Tuesday May 27, 2008 @08:11AM (#23554313)

    "Fight Fire With Fire And Everything Will Burn"

    Sure, but it might save your life. Read about it in this book [gutenberg.org]. When you are downwind from a big fire, set fire to the grass in front of you, then walk into the burned patch.


    up until the last few years, Linux has been all of those things to the common "e-mail checking and web browsing" computer users

    Define "few" years, please. I started using Linux in 1995 with the Yggdrasil "plug and play" distribution. At that time it was more or less like what the Microsoft shills claim, but still I was able to install and run it in less than an hour, without any outside help. Google didn't exist at the time and I had never met anyone who had ever used Linux.


    Compared to that, at about the same period it took me nearly a week and several consultations with other people until I got Windows 95 to run on the same machine. The hardware drivers had to be carefully configured and installed in a precise sequence to boot windows 95, even though it had been running windows 3.11 before. So, even if Linux was in an extremely primitive state for the common user at the time, it wasn't any more difficult to install and configure than windows.


    For normal use today, I think Linux with KDE is easier to use than XP (I have never tried Vista). For one thing, the "K" or "Start" menu is nicely organized, divided by application type instead of by software provider. Also, It's much easier to search and install software: click on "Add/Remove programs", search by keyword, click on "install" and "apply changes", and that's it. And copy/paste is easier too: select with the mouse, middle-click to paste. One handed, no need to CTRL-C, CTRL-V. And so on, etc, etc.


    Now, if you think it's off-topic to mention Vista in a discussion about Linux, think again: why is it that Linux is mentioned 177000 times in the Microsoft website [google.com]? It's always on-topic to mention the alternatives, of course.
     

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