Debian Cluster Replaces Supercomputer For Weather Forecasting 160
wazza brings us a story about the Philippine government's weather service (PAGASA), which has recently used an eight-PC Debian cluster to replace an SGI supercomputer. The system processes data from local sources and the Global Telecommunication System, and it has reduced monthly operational costs by a factor of 20. Quoting:
"'We tried several Linux flavours, including Red Hat, Mandrake, Fedora etc,' said Alan Pineda, head of ICT and flood forecasting at PAGASA. 'It doesn't make a dent in our budget; it's very negligible.' Pineda said PAGASA also wanted to implement a system which is very scalable. All of the equipment used for PICWIN's data gathering comes off-the-shelf, including laptops and mobile phones to transmit weather data such as temperature, humidity, rainfall, cloud formation and atmospheric pressure from field stations via SMS into PAGASA's central database."
Re:Debian? (Score:4, Insightful)
-- from a debian user... who actually started quite late with potato....
Re:Debian? (Score:4, Insightful)
I doubt they have X installed on these machines.
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Not sure why you call Debian a desktop distro, it's much more useful as a server.
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Re:Debian? (Score:5, Insightful)
The things I (and my co-workers) put a lot of optimization effort into is the kernel and our apps. You're exactly right.. 99.9% of our CPU cycles go into getting work done, and that 0.1% used by
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Re:dent in the budget (Score:3, Insightful)
Also, their supercomputer may just be outdated, not necessarily because of bloated software. I don't know how well SGI's products and support survived their recent bankrupcy, but I'd imagine not too well (though they seem to have built the Xeon-based #3 from the Top 500 recently).
Re:Debian? (Score:3, Insightful)
I know people who know a fair amount about running clusters. None of them want the headache of dealing with the random-ass unexpected conflicts that arise out of having the explosion of possibilities for custom compiling for each server. Also, nobody wants to use their precious "performance cluster" cycles compiling every update. If you really need to compile tweaks (for the important stuff only), you do it offline, once, and then build a *binary* package to distribute to your nodes.
Re:Debian? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:dent in the budget (Score:3, Insightful)
That's the big attraction for Debian. For a production system, support tasks drop to almost nothing. It's there. It runs. If and when a patch is needed, it is just that - a patch - and not any weird licensing changes or mutations in functionality.
Of the linux distros, it's an excellent choice for servers, perhaps the best. Given the rock-solid nature, it can be good for enterprise desktops, if you are willing to plan. However, Kubuntu LTS meets that need.
Re:Debian? (Score:2, Insightful)
How fortunate that apt/dpkg handles source packages so well then... Punching in 'apt-get -b source <whatever>' is not a whole lot harder than 'port install <whatever>' or whatever you prefer, is it? I know, I know... Don't feed the troll... Sorry.
Re:Why debian when you can have Slackware? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Debian? (Score:3, Insightful)
It just takes a little more effort if you do something pointless like start out with just the min install.
Re:dent in the budget (Score:1, Insightful)
So, other choices = $$$ for licenses + $$$ for support.
Debian = likely less $$$ for support.
So the question is: how many mods are on crack today?
Re:I don't understand the difference (Score:3, Insightful)
So what you have is a list of the 500 biggest operations who think it is important to brag about what platform you are running. That's quite different from the 500 biggest operations (I'd be surprised if the two lists overlap at all).
I know that if I were running one of the largest, most sophisticated computer systems in the world, I wouldn't be going around telling my competitors how I did it.