Ubuntu 7.10 "Gutsy Gibbon" Is Out 755
Many readers are sending the news that Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon has been released. Download options include mirrors and torrents. Wired has a review based on the release candidate: "Gamers and hardcore media hounds may still feel left out... but we found playing music and watching movies in the new Ubuntu to be every bit as pleasant as it is under OS X or Windows... Wi-Fi, printing, my digital camera and even my iPod all worked immediately after installation — no drivers or other software required... I did have to install additional codecs to get MP3 and Windows Media Audio support."
What? (Score:5, Insightful)
Amarok. There's nothing like it on any other platform.
The summary contradicts itself (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:The summary contradicts itself (Score:5, Insightful)
Lucky for you, there is Ogg Vorbis, which is technically superior to MP3 anyway, in terms of quality per byte.
Re:Just do .... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:What? (Score:1, Insightful)
So while I can compile Kernels and grep across the OS in too many ways to remember... I still boot Windows.
I don't really have a solution. MS seems to have the games all locked up. WINE is making slow inroads but with the arrival of DirectX 10 they are another gen behind.
And why are games REALLY important? Because if I boot to windows then what am I gonna recommend to my family and friends?
Re:The summary contradicts itself (Score:5, Insightful)
1) Charge for the version of the distro that includes the software, pay the licence fee to the licensor, disallow redistribution of the licensed code
2) Give the distro away for free, pay the licence fee to the licensor, disallow redistribution of the licensed code
3) Reimplement the required code, distribute only in countries with a more enlightened attitude towards software patents (eg the EU) Superior or not, that doesn't help me with all the music I have in mp3 (and no, I'm not about to re-rip it).
The OP's point is valid - the experience is not as good out of the box as that of OS X or Windows, with regards to music playing.
Re:will it wipe my /home? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:What? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Just do (n00b question).... (Score:2, Insightful)
I would recommend that before you upgrade, and just in general, you burn a live CD, so that if something wrong you have a way of at least connecting to the internet and getting to ubuntu forums. I actually had to use my Wii to post to the ubuntu forums where someone was able to give me an hpkg reconfigure command that I could use in recovery mode. Wasn't too fun typing on my Wii.
Re:Does it Support My Wi-Fi Adapter? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:IU Mirror (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Has support from Dell and Novell (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:What? (Score:5, Insightful)
Last I checked Apple doesn't support Linux. If you bought an iPod, you knew it didn't support Linux, so why did you buy it?
This is akin to the people that buy houses next to airports then complain to the city about the noise.
Gaming Falls to the Winner (Score:5, Insightful)
It isn't something anyone developing Linux or working on Ubuntu can just fix. Gaming is always going to fall to the OS with the biggest installbase because of the money involved. All the Linux folks can do is keep polishing and pushing to make desktop Linux a better experience... so that one day they'll have a profitable userbase for the gaming companies to address.
Maybe it seems like Linux geeks are underestimating the importance of gaming, but I don't think that's the case. Projects like Wine and Cedega strive to hit a moving target in the dark, just in efforts to bring you folks over... But we'll only ever see mixed results from that.
From my point of view though, gamers may overestimate their own importance to the adoption of Linux at this time. Because gaming will fall to the biggest (desktop) installbase, how is it going to help an OS that is currently running third? All it can really do is solidify the lead of whoever is in first. Right?
And, contrary to the opinion of many gamers, there are throngs of people who never-ever game... or never-ever game on a computer. Judging from the folks I know, it'd be the vast majority. Most folks just use their computers to communicate, to budget, to work, and to just dink around on the web. Those are the folks Ubuntu is going after right now.
Gamers are important, sure. It's a userbase that is a bit more knowledgeable and a bit more experimental, which would make them a good fit for Desktop Linux early-adoption. We'd love to have them. But, unfortunately, they are going to be forever tied to whatever's most popular... and, further, they are not the end-all of computing.
We'll be happy to see all you gamers again once we hit... sayyy 25%-50% installed. See ya then. =)
Re:Stay out of the forums for a while. (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Has support from Dell and Novell (Score:2, Insightful)
There are some things in VS that annoy me too, but IMHO, it's the least annoying development environment I've ever used.
Re:Potential Linux user thwarted once again (Score:2, Insightful)
I know giant strides have been made (and are being made with the recent AMD/ATI announcement); but unfortunately I still seem to have the back luck in the hardware I have
Which Vorbis player in US B&M stores? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:What? (Score:4, Insightful)
Developers could create 5 tiny applications:
ipod_mount
ipod_music_sync
ipod_video_sync
ipod_pictures_sync
ipod_unmount
Each would do what they're supposed to do *very* well. They could have some command line flags that would let you do about anything
ipod_mount
ipod_video_sync -device
ipod_music_sync -device
ipod_unmount.
Then you could write a nice pretty wrapper around that. In my opinion nothing would be very bloated because each program would do one thing and one thing very well. You also get the nice 'feature' of having command line tools available to anyone that wanted to use SSH or a Web interface or an Ncurses interface.
I'm a die hard OS X fan. It does everything I need to and I don't have to fight it. I also love the command line if there's a way to do it via command line I probably do. My debian server is headless I only have SSH access. I'd love to be able to plug my iPod into its cradle go back to my chair and do everything via ssh. Most new applications I find are KDE or GNOME only. I finally found someone who wrote a nice perl script to convert *.avi to iPod video files. I wrapped that in a shell script to create iPod videos.
to_ipod.sh Transformers.avi Pulp\ Fiction.avi
And in a few hours I have Transformers.mp4 and Pulp\ Fiction.mp4, but then I have to transfer them to my Mac to sync them via iTunes.
(See also off topic rant in same thread)
Re:Does it Support My Wi-Fi Adapter? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Has support from Dell and Novell (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Bittorrent client (Score:1, Insightful)
Huh, interesting. So you think the only reason people use Azureus is because they're not aware that alternatives exist? Weird. Did it ever occur to you that maybe I like Azureus?
Aside from having a nice interface whose speed doesn't bother me at all because I've got a nice computer, I also like the remote Swing and HTML interfaces, built-in tracker (with SSL), auto-speed plugins, advanced seeding rules, and the fact that the interface works the same way on my Windows, Linux, and OS X boxes. (yes, I have computers running all three, and yes, I've used all of them for downloading torrents) How many other torrent programs do that? And do they do it well enough that I'd want to bother learning a new interface?
Re:7.2Gbps via official torrents (Score:3, Insightful)
Jeezuz, People! It's FREE! (Score:3, Insightful)
The man put up his own millions, fought to bring computer technology to the third world, and will mail you a free copy of the Ubuntu CD if you ask.
Yeah, talk about shortcomings and areas where it doesn't work, etc., but for crying out loud! It might be wise to treat it in a tone of constructive criticism rather than bitter complaint. A little respect is due here. Heck, a lot of respect is due here!
And sheesh, I'm not even a regular Linux user. (Not until the Gimp does more than 8 bits and builds a better layout and includes CMYK. And changes its creepy name.)
-FL
Re:Has support from Dell and Novell (Score:2, Insightful)
Your statement wouldn't be true, even if C++ debugging was reduced to graphical step by step C++ debugging.
The only case in which any Visual Studio is better than a FOSS IDE is when you're programming only for a Windows platform.
Re:What? (Score:3, Insightful)
That much is fair. I suppose I'm unique there in that I have another machine set up as a server (fileserver, among other things), so I can simply tell it to download something, then reboot my desktop (gaming machine) as many times as I want.
Being able to do it all on one OS is certainly preferable, but I decided that Ubuntu was worth the hassle (though I did already have that other box).
I do, because it's that lazy, but also because when I want to get under the hood, I can. A Debian base isn't bad.
I used to use Gentoo, but I found that I really don't give anything up by going to Ubuntu, and I gain laziness. However, going to Windows, I do lose a lot, and I am far too lazy to spend much time trying to make my Windows work as well as my Linux did -- in the places where that's even possible.